Neo Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, MLD Woody said: I'm fairly confident you're just trolling hard. And it looks like you're fishing for Cysko now If you want to ban me then do it. JUst be honorable to remove me from the websites database unlike the other twat that ran BH. I don't care at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 7 minutes ago, Neo said: If you want to ban me then do it. JUst be honorable to remove me from the websites database unlike the other twat that ran BH. I don't care at this point. Dude, I'm not doing anything. Calm down. You'll get banned if you do something ban worthy. Otherwise, have fun fishing I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/07/16/biden-refuses-to-take-responsibility-for-his-part-in-demonizing-trump-n2641973 One Line Demolished Biden's Defense of His Mental Health During Sloppy NBC News Interview 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 29 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Ignoring the face that Cheatle was in the secret service for over 20 years before going to PepsiCo for a few. Ignoring the secret service page I linked direct from her quote about hiring DEI, blantantly hiring on the premise of gender or skin color. Or are you in favor of DEI? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 28 minutes ago, Neo said: If you want to ban me then do it. JUst be honorable to remove me from the websites database unlike the other twat that ran BH. I don't care at this point. Ban you? You’re forum gold! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: @VaporTrail see, they're going to start ranting about DEI. I thought it would star within memes of the incel, alt right, Andrew Tate corners of the Internet but it seems to be making it's way to the more traditional conservative. Ignoring the face that Cheatle was in the secret service for over 20 years before going to PepsiCo for a few. No doubt a diversity hire then also. She's incompetent and should be fired immediately. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 17 Author Report Share Posted July 17 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: @VaporTrail see, they're going to start ranting about DEI. I thought it would star within memes of the incel, alt right, Andrew Tate corners of the Internet but it seems to be making it's way to the more traditional conservative. Ignoring the face that Cheatle was in the secret service for over 20 years before going to PepsiCo for a few. DEI angle in this case shouldn't be outright dismissed. If you are trying to protect a 6'3" man, maybe a 5'3" woman shouldn't be tasked with being his human shield. Trump should have been physically removed from the situation instead of walked off under his own power, being allowed to talk into the mic, raising his fist in the air, putting his shoes on (bone spurs lol). Having women in the detail that weigh 100 lbs less than their VIP is not putting them in a position to be able to succeed if shit hits the fan. Since becoming the director, she implemented a diversity quota of 30% female agents in the USSS. The slow response is, in part, due to that systemic decision. Here's his USSS detail for the RNC convention and you will see that female agents are conspicuously absent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 17 Author Report Share Posted July 17 Also, Neo, are you okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 let's see, SS scandals....corrupt wh, incompetent appointees, DEI garbage, and the bidens are corrupt chronic liars.... I read where only one SS team for Trump was a regular - all the others were temps. so, smallish temp female substitutes? no watch on that close rooftop? seriously? almost like the corruption to get political obstacles to their power.... "accidently" shot. how did the shooter kid know there wasn't any SS on that roof? and ... SS director cheatle - says they did not protect that roof from assassins because.... it was sloped. Doesn't add up. She lied, apparently: https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/07/16/secret-service-directors-sloped-roof-excuse-doesnt-make-sense-heres-why/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 3 hours ago, VaporTrail said: DEI angle in this case shouldn't be outright dismissed. If you are trying to protect a 6'3" man, maybe a 5'3" woman shouldn't be tasked with being his human shield. Trump should have been physically removed from the situation instead of walked off under his own power, being allowed to talk into the mic, raising his fist in the air, putting his shoes on (bone spurs lol). Having women in the detail that weigh 100 lbs less than their VIP is not putting them in a position to be able to succeed if shit hits the fan. Since becoming the director, she implemented a diversity quota of 30% female agents in the USSS. The slow response is, in part, due to that systemic decision. Here's his USSS detail for the RNC convention and you will see that female agents are conspicuously absent. - the DEI angle quickly started as Cheatle being unqualified (I'm sure fueled by Musk's tweet). That's quickly died down as it has become apparent to any sane person she is qualified. - the DEI angle is now focused on the SS agents in the area. If course, the majority of the agents around Trump on stage were male, and they let him poke his head up, pump his fist, etc. Then later, when Trump was at his vehicle, the entire inner circle of agents around him were male and they didn't stop him from poking his head out above all of them. There were majority men or entirely men in both situations and Trump wasn't physically moved anywhere immediately. - you have no idea if the slow response was due to that systemic decision. None at all. - the DEI angle is being added on to this story because it fits a conservative narrative. Of course the actual "conservatives" pulling the strings are pushing the anti DEI narrative (and anti trans, and anti CRT, and any other wedge issue) to distract voters from the shit they want, like corporate tax breaks, so the wealth gap can keep rising. It's just a cherry on top that alt right always online incels can pile on with memes because they hate women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Ignore the talk in 2nd clip, can't even spell traitors, but this is how close he came to being killed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 17 Author Report Share Posted July 17 7 hours ago, MLD Woody said: - the DEI angle quickly started as Cheatle being unqualified (I'm sure fueled by Musk's tweet). That's quickly died down as it has become apparent to any sane person she is qualified. - the DEI angle is now focused on the SS agents in the area. If course, the majority of the agents around Trump on stage were male, and they let him poke his head up, pump his fist, etc. Then later, when Trump was at his vehicle, the entire inner circle of agents around him were male and they didn't stop him from poking his head out above all of them. There were majority men or entirely men in both situations and Trump wasn't physically moved anywhere immediately. - you have no idea if the slow response was due to that systemic decision. None at all. - the DEI angle is being added on to this story because it fits a conservative narrative. Of course the actual "conservatives" pulling the strings are pushing the anti DEI narrative (and anti trans, and anti CRT, and any other wedge issue) to distract voters from the shit they want, like corporate tax breaks, so the wealth gap can keep rising. It's just a cherry on top that alt right always online incels can pile on with memes because they hate women Not sure why you are choosing this hill to die on, but okay. The men in the detail are just as responsible as the women for the failure. You're outright dismissing the following without any supporting evidence. The women are not tall enough to shield him. Having them there in the first place is one systemic failure. Having a 5'5" male in this detail would be the same result. Leadership set those agents up for failure. If there was a second shooter, then the VIP could be taken out right here. The second part isn't rocket science, and I'm kind of surprised you're disputing this. It's easier for 6 men built like Rambo to physically move around a person who weighs over 200 lbs than it is for 4 of them and 2 women. Take a look at the Reagan assassination attempt for what I would consider an effective response to the VIP getting shot. The US Marine Corps has documented studies of the effect of mixed gender on unit performance. They found that all-male units performed better in 2/3 of the tasks they were evaluated on. USSS is a military-adjacent unit, so if you can't see how the results of those tests could apply to this situation, then you're just being obtuse. The systemic failure was the decision to make a goal of 30% of USSS agents being female. How does having a quota of females make the USSS better able to accomplish their mission? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Secret Service boss Cheatle: “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News on Tuesday. Unreal. GSod8iQacAMMYWr.jfif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Just now, FY56 said: Secret Service boss Cheatle: “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News on Tuesday. Unreal. GSod8iQacAMMYWr.jfif 18.89 kB · 0 downloads A “sloped roof” you say? What will they think of next? Much too dangerous to put any LEO’s on a sloped roof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 I hear she's qualified to make that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Holy fuck. I'm not going to draw a conclusion from this, but holy fuck anyway. Not everyone reacts the same in certain situations. Maybe she knew something was coming like we all did, if you know what I mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: the DEI angle quickly started as Cheatle being unqualified (I'm sure fueled by Musk's tweet). That's quickly died down as it has become apparent to any sane person she is qualified. Funny, there must be a lot of insane people on the left who also are calling for her to be fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 9 hours ago, MLD Woody said: - the DEI angle quickly started as Cheatle being unqualified (I'm sure fueled by Musk's tweet). That's quickly died down as it has become apparent to any sane person she is qualified. - the DEI angle is now focused on the SS agents in the area. If course, the majority of the agents around Trump on stage were male, and they let him poke his head up, pump his fist, etc. Then later, when Trump was at his vehicle, the entire inner circle of agents around him were male and they didn't stop him from poking his head out above all of them. There were majority men or entirely men in both situations and Trump wasn't physically moved anywhere immediately. - you have no idea if the slow response was due to that systemic decision. None at all. - the DEI angle is being added on to this story because it fits a conservative narrative. Of course the actual "conservatives" pulling the strings are pushing the anti DEI narrative (and anti trans, and anti CRT, and any other wedge issue) to distract voters from the shit they want, like corporate tax breaks, so the wealth gap can keep rising. It's just a cherry on top that alt right always online incels can pile on with memes because they hate women Haha. here we go again. "Conservative narrative". The conservative narrative happens to be the truth you don't like hearing. Didn't your more reliable sources report to you that the Secret Service boss explicitly stated that it was unsafe for SS agents to be atop sloped roof? How about your own NY Times. Kudos to them for even reporting that the frantic calls for a guy on the roof was ignored, even going as far as to post a video of the liberal democrat on the "dangerously sloped" roof . Video Shows Crowd Warning Law Enforcement About Gunman Before He Fired at Trump - The New York Times (nytimes.com) This from the Post, but the NY Times posted the same video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 And Woody still tries to tell himself that violence and hate are equal on both sides. Just like he believes that the lefts 6 yr mission to be rid of Trump is absurd, "a conservative narrative". Violence: And hate: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 How many cities burned after the attempted assassination of Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 8 minutes ago, Axe said: How many cities burned after the attempted assassination of Trump? Wait a minute…we were told those were mostly peaceful protests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 10 minutes ago, Axe said: How many cities burned after the attempted assassination of Trump? None. Because everyone knows that a black thug killed by a white cop is more a threat to democracy than the thing that happened last Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 If the threat (someone on the roof) was known minutes before the shooting why didn't the secret service take Trump off the stage out of the line of sight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Axe said: How many cities burned after the attempted assassination of Trump? Funny enough, the left is now warning of retaliation from conservatives, or extreme maga terrorists as they like to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 39 minutes ago, Vambo said: If the threat (someone on the roof) was known minutes before the shooting why didn't the secret service take Trump off the stage out of the line of sight? Another great point. If they couldn't get clearance to shoot the sniper, why not at least get Trump to safety instead of leaving him out to dry while they figured the threat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 I really hate reading this shit. I really do. For the fact that I don't want to believe it was a conspiracy. Here we have a situation regarding the trajectory of the bullet. If it came from the roof, the trajectory would have been downward. The shot allegedly came from inside the building. BUT...if you look closely, it is very slightly downward. If the building is 20ft. high combined with Trumps height and the height of the stage and the distance between Trump and the building, the trajectory can be calculated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Something very suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Line up cult members here are your new shoes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Daily Express US on MSN · 1d Jack Black's Tenacious D facing deportation after sick Trump 'assassination' joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17 Report Share Posted July 17 Just news breaking - the Secret Service KNEW of a threat well before Trump took the stage. This whole fiasco REEKS of conspiracy theories. but as schumer said, the cia has many ways to get you..... and... https://www.usnews.com › news › articles › 2013 › 07 › 02 › national-intelligence-director-apologizes-for-lying-to-congress National Intelligence Director Apologizes for Lying to Congress Dir. Clapper says a response to the Intelligence Committee in March was 'clearly erroneous.'. Top Spy Says NSA Spying Answer 'Erroneous'. The director of National Intelligence apologized in June .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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