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calfoxwc Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 That should tick off the "independents" ...she'd be a great rep at the "UN", except we should leave it/stop funding it. So should Israel, too. It's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: That should tick off the "independents" ...she'd be a great rep at the "UN", except we should leave it/stop funding it. So should Israel, too. It's time. I think it's just a stunt by her to get on the ticket or.. His cabinet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: That should tick off the "independents" ...she'd be a great rep at the "UN", except we should leave it/stop funding it. So should Israel, too. It's time. Why do you think it would tick off independents? I consider myself an independent. My initial thought was “fuck yeah Haley, way to be decisive.” She’s a republican right? This is the expected move. Without linking me to death, what’s your beef with the UN? I get that it’s imperfect, but it stands to reason that the existence of a worldwide collaboration like it should exist. It’s pretty much inevitable. Keeping in mind that it’s a worldwide organizations consisting of member nations looking out for their best own best interests, what do you think the USA should do there? Not being a part of it puts us in isolationism mode. We saw the results of that lead to WW2. Right now we’re a big dick in the UN. It really sucks because everyone wants to get a piece of it. But at the end of the day, don’t you wanna have a big dick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Ibleedbrown said: Why do you think it would tick off independents? I consider myself an independent. My initial thought was “fuck yeah Haley, way to be decisive.” She’s a republican right? This is the expected move. Without linking me to death, what’s your beef with the UN? I get that it’s imperfect, but it stands to reason that the existence of a worldwide collaboration like it should exist. It’s pretty much inevitable. Keeping in mind that it’s a worldwide organizations consisting of member nations looking out for their best own best interests, what do you think the USA should do there? Not being a part of it puts us in isolationism mode. We saw the results of that lead to WW2. Right now we’re a big dick in the UN. It really sucks because everyone wants to get a piece of it. But at the end of the day, don’t you wanna have a big dick? A. I said that because there were independents who wanted Haley to run and they would vote for her. B. The UN is CORRUPT. https://forward.com › opinion › 578284 › united-nations-unrwa-corruption It's not just UNRWA that's corrupt, but the UN too - The Forward Jan 31, 2024The United Nations just can't help itself. On Jan. 26, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency — the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees —announced it had fired several employees accused ... https://www.goodreads.com › book › show › 192956.Tower_of_Babble Tower of Babble: How the United Nations Has Fueled Global Chaos - Goodreads A United Nations insider exposes the ugly truth about the UN—including how UN organizations have been funding terrorist groups! In the New York Times bestseller Tower of Babble , former United Nations ambassador Dore Gold blows the lid off the UN's shocking failures to keep international peace, its corruption, its rampant anti-Americanism, and its emboldening of terrorist organizations. https://www.amazon.com › United-Nations-Convention-Against-Corruption-ebook › dp › B07N2Y8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 C. The UN runs on countries money. As in, OUR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It has never stopped a war. It seems it is only good for spreading our wealth to poor countries. That is their motive to try so desperately to foster man made global warming nonsense on us. The UN is worthless. except for poor countries who get billions and billions from us. Like the Palestinians. Read up on the corruption in the UN if you want more of an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted May 23 Author Report Share Posted May 23 UN should be dissolved. Worthless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: UN should be dissolved. Worthless. And the protocols they have are beyond ridiculous to say the least... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2024 at 12:14 AM, calfoxwc said: C. The UN runs on countries money. As in, OUR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It has never stopped a war. It seems it is only good for spreading our wealth to poor countries. That is their motive to try so desperately to foster man made global warming nonsense on us. The UN is worthless. except for poor countries who get billions and billions from us. Like the Palestinians. Read up on the corruption in the UN if you want more of an answer. Well ok, but what do you think the USA should do with regard to the UN? Clearly there’s demand for such an organization. If you recall after WW1 the League of Nations was created, a similar entity, which the USA was NOT a part of, and if l recall from history class, that was seen as a contributing factor to the lead up to WW2. I kinda thought we all learned a lesson there that isolationism maybe wasn’t the best move. We’re now a good 100+ years in having the UN or something like it. Do you think we should leave and repeat the same mistake after WW1? Let the rest of the world steer themselves and hope they don’t screw things up again? Or try to abolish the UN and create something similar? Or abolish it and not create something similar? Just let everyone figure it out on their own, us included, without any formalized forum to sort out the world’s problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 I thought Japan bombing Pearl Harbor and Hitler declaring war right after was the reason. Must have been different teachers..... Do you actually think that by us being in the league would have stopped Hitler from rearming his military and Japan from it's goals? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: I thought Japan bombing Pearl Harbor and Hitler declaring war right after was the reason. Must have been different teachers..... Maybe. A key phrase was “contributing factor.” I’ll attach a link detailing what l’m referring to. The theory is that had the US been more involved in world affairs in the 30s, we could have exerted enough influence to avoid the rise in strength of the Axis powers, or at least be in a better position to see it coming. Think ounce of prevention/pound of cure. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/american-isolationism#:~:text=During the 1930s%2C the combination,non-entanglement in international politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 I say it's bullshit. It was destiny and had nothing to do with the USA joining the League of fuckups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Ibleedbrown said: Maybe. A key phrase was “contributing factor.” I’ll attach a link detailing what l’m referring to. The theory is that had the US been more involved in world affairs in the 30s, we could have exerted enough influence to avoid the rise in strength of the Axis powers, or at least be in a better position to see it coming. Think ounce of prevention/pound of cure. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/american-isolationism#:~:text=During the 1930s%2C the combination,non-entanglement in international politics. did everybody in your class get a big pink ribbon for passing the class with no test? No mention of "league of nations". Unless I missed it. Read it and let me know if I did....... Have a nice day. https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/world-war-ii-history World War II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 yeah.... kinda like: "League of Nations" : "well, we took a vote, and we want to you know, that in our collective opinion, you and your nazi murderers are terrible, mean, wicked, bad and nasty, so we want you to be nice and not try to nazi the entire earth. Want a cookie?" and WWII wouldn't have happened. Twisted History. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: did everybody in your class get a big pink ribbon for passing the class with no test? No mention of "league of nations". Unless I missed it. Read it and let me know if I did....... Have a nice day. https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/world-war-ii-history World War II I’m not sure l follow your response. The article l linked mentioned the League of Nations. I don’t recall ribbons, but l gather that was just a goofy potshot anyway. Golf clap if so, and moving on… Regardless, do you think we should leave the UN and head into isolation mode like we did after WW1? Let the rest of the world steer themselves and hope they don’t screw things up again? Or, try to abolish the UN and create something similar? Or, abolish it and not create something similar? Just let everyone figure it out on their own, us included, without any formalized forum to sort out the world’s problems? I would argue that such an organization has existed for over a hundred years, and if it’s going to continue to exist, the US should have a seat at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: Regardless, do you think we should leave the UN and head into isolation mode like we did after WW1? Let the rest of the world steer themselves and hope they don’t screw things up again? Or, try to abolish the UN and create something similar? Or, abolish it and not create something similar? Just let everyone figure it out on their own, us included, without any formalized forum to sort out the world’s problems? I would argue that such an organization has existed for over a hundred years, and if it’s going to continue to exist, the US should have a seat at the table. Sorry, I just was referring to your education. "the league of nations" had nothing to do with initiating WWII. With russia and china having a veto, and them being corrupt warring enemies, our veto is important. Outside of that, the united nations is hopelessly corrupt. I can't find the book I was going to refer you to - but it detailed the rampant corruption in the UN. There isn't any fixing it, imho. My contention is, with the un being worthless, why the heck are we the major funder of it? by far, ...nearly twice what china gives to the UN. So, I say we quit funding it until it gets it's act together. and the ICC ? did they put out a determination to arrest the head of hamas after Oct. 7th? NO. Months later, they are after them AND the head of Israel. Then they can give the head of hamas a "pass", and .... Israel isn't a part of the ICC. Neither is America. and Russia, I think it was. https://intpolicydigest.org › the-un-corruption-and-scandals-how-did-we-get-here The UN, Corruption and Scandals: How Did We Get Here? Corruption seems to be a real problem throughout the United Nations. Cover-ups are being reported at all levels from an institution which seems hell-bent on not making itself accountable. Patrick Henningsen, editor of 21st Century Wire, who has seen the UN's operations around the world firsthand, https://www.bbc.com › news › world-61826551 UN sexual abuse claims 'must be investigated' - BBC Jun 21, 2022Claims of sexual abuse and corruption at the United Nations should urgently be investigated by an independent panel, an ex-senior UN member has said. Purna Sen's comments follow a BBC ... https://www.ft.com › content › 054a529c-e793-489b-8986-b65d01672766 UN agency hit with corruption allegations at climate projects The United Nations Development Programme is facing several allegations of fraud and corruption linked to the multibillion-dollar Global Environment Facility, according to documents seen by the ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 https://www.hrw.org › news › 2020 › 01 › 11 › un-peacekeeping-has-sexual-abuse-problem UN Peacekeeping has a Sexual Abuse Problem | Human Rights Watch WheelerSkye. A Haitian woman was selling charcoal on the empty edges of her small town when a white, uniformed United Nations peacekeeper offered her a lift in his marked vehicle. He raped her ... Sexual abuse by UN peacekeepers - Wikipedia Some of the personnel of the United Nations peacekeeping are accused of committing sexual abuse in general and of child sexual abuse in particular. An Associated Press (AP) investigation revealed in 2017 that more than 100 United Nations (UN) peacekeepers ran a child sex ring in Haiti over a 10-year period and none were ever jailed. The report further found that over the previous 12 years ... https://www.cfr.org › backgrounder › impact-un-oil-food-scandal The Impact of the UN Oil-for-Food Scandal - Council on Foreign Relations The largest humanitarian program in UN history was also victimized by the organization's worst corruption scandal. The oil-for-food case has triggered moves toward reform at the UN but the ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Criticism_of_the_United_Nations Criticism of the United Nations - Wikipedia The United Nations has been criticized for a variety of reasons, including its policies, ideology, equality of representation, administration, ability to enforce rulings, and ideological bias. ... The UNFPA was not found directly involved in the scandal but continued to fund and work with the population control program after the abuses had ... https://peacekeeping.un.org › en › un-news › un-receives-70-new-allegations-of-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse-three-months UN receives 70 new allegations of sexual exploitation and abuse in ... The United Nations received 70 new allegations of sexual exploitation and abuse across all its entities and implementing partners, between the beginning of April to the end of June this year, UN Deputy Spokesperson, Farhan Haq, announced on Monday, with 18 cases involving peacekeeping operations, and 25 from "agencies, funds and programmes." "Please note that not all the https://www.economist.com › unknown › 2005 › 08 › 09 › corruption-at-the-heart-of-the-united-nations Corruption at the heart of the United Nations - The Economist Corruption at the heart of the United Nations. An investigation has concluded that the former head of the United Nations' oil-for-food programme in Iraq took kickbacks to help an oil company win ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 one more: https://whistleblowingnetwork.org › News-Events › News › News-Archive › UN-whistleblowing-scandal-Finland-first-country-t UN whistleblowing scandal: Finland first country to act against UN ... Aug 12, 2022Finland has reportedly taken the extraordinary step to freeze all funding to the United Nations (UN) following corruption scandals at the international organisation, specifically highlighting the need for a review of whistleblowing mechanisms to ensure the effective protection of those speaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 12 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Sorry, I just was referring to your education. "the league of nations" had nothing to do with initiating WWII. With russia and china having a veto, and them being corrupt warring enemies, our veto is important. Outside of that, the united nations is hopelessly corrupt. I can't find the book I was going to refer you to - but it detailed the rampant corruption in the UN. There isn't any fixing it, imho. My contention is, with the un being worthless, why the heck are we the major funder of it? by far, ...nearly twice what china gives to the UN. So, I say we quit funding it until it gets it's act together. Understandable. That’s all l was looking for was your opinion there. It sounds like we’re in agreement that if the UN is going to exist, we should be a part of it. No one else is going to look out for our own interests in it otherwise. I wasn’t aware of how much funding we provided to the UN, but after a furious 5 minutes of google searching, yeah, it’s a lot. That’s an understandable position to want other nations to carry more of the load. Can’t argue with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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