mjp28 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 22 hours ago, syd said: The great Brian Sipe days away One of my "lucky numbers - 17" and a great and exciting quarterback BRIAN SIPE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 Milt Plum days to go bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, syd said: Milt Plum days to go bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya Bill Nelson says hello. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 22 minutes ago, Bob806 said: Bill Nelson says hello. you goddamn right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Cribbs is hands down my favorite 16. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 another great Phipps days to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, syd said: another great Phipps days to go An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 51 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss 😑. Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, Bob806 said: An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss 😑. Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan. I should say the name "Mike Phipps" in front of my dad and record the look on his face, and post it on here. It would not be a cheery look. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 10 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I should say the name "Mike Phipps" in front of my dad and record the look on his face, and post it on here. It would not be a cheery look. He definitely had talent & a strong arm, just never lived up to the hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjp28 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 Now that we are in the Cleveland BROWNS teen numbers one that I don't want to see missed -at- # 12 Mr Don Cockroft. Donald Lee Cockroft (born February 6, 1945) is an American former professional football player who was a punter and placekicker for 13 seasons with the Cleveland Browns of the National Football League (NFL). He has the third most career points for a Brown behind fellow kickers Phil Dawson (second) and Lou Groza. Cockroft served as the Browns' primary punter and placekicker for the first nine seasons of his career. In 1977, he dropped punting from his duties and became solely a placekicker. He and Tampa Bay Buccaneers kicker/punter Dave Green were two of the last NFL players to lead their teams in both punting and kicking in the same season (1976). He was involved in the January 4, 1981, American Football Conference divisional play-off game versus the Oakland Raiders. Cockroft missed field goals from 47 and 30-yards in the second quarter. The Browns scored a touchdown on a 42-yard interception by Ron Bolton with 6:02 left in the second quarter, but the extra point attempt by Cockroft was blocked. Cleveland would lose the game 14-12, a game which is nicknamed Red Right 88. Later NFL players to have this dual role were Steve Little of the St. Louis Cardinals in 1979, Russell Erxleben of the New Orleans Saints briefly in 1979 and 1980, and Frank Corral for the Los Angeles Rams in 1980 and 1981. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 (edited) ~ FILE ~ this BROWNS' Quarterback who A. wore the # 10 (1986-1990) B. played 132 games. C. NOT too spectacular D. had some "interesting other" side notes and you get .... MIKE PAGEL ? Yes, Michael Jonathan. Pagel. Learn more This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page Michael Jonathan Pagel (born September 13, 1960) is an American former professional football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the Arizona State Sun Devils and was selected by the Baltimore Colts in the fourth round of the 1982 NFL draft. At 6'2" and 206 lb (93 kg), Pagel played in 12 NFL seasons from 1982 to 1993. ★ Mike Pagel <--▪︎ SEE ADDED-IN EXTRA NOTES ! No. 18, 10, 14 Position: Quarterback Personal information Born: September 13, 1960 (age 63) Douglas, Arizona, U.S. Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 206 lb (93 kg) Career information High school: Washington (Phoenix, Arizona) College: Arizona State ▪︎--> NFL draft: 1982 / Round: 4 / Pick: 84 <--▪︎ Career history Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts (1982–1985) Cleveland Browns (1986–1990) <--▪︎ 5 years Los Angeles Rams (1991–1993) Massachusetts Marauders (1994) <--▪︎ Arena Career highlights and awards First-team All-Pac-10 (1981) Career NFL statistics TDs-INT: 49–63 <--▪︎ uh-oh ! Passing yards: 9,414 Passer rating: 63.3 Career Arena statistics <-- Arena ? Completions: 205 Attempts: 380 Touchdowns: 46/14 <--▪︎ WOW ! Interceptions: 14 Passing yards: 2,713 Player stats at PFR · ArenaFan.com ▪︎--> ● Drafted the same year as Art Schlichter, Pagel was drafted to be groomed as a backup. Generally he out-played Schlichter. Pagel bounced in and out of the starting quarterback job for the Colts in his four seasons with the team, alternating with Schlichter, Matt Kofler, and Mark Herrmann. ● He was the last Colt to wear #18 before Peyton Manning. ●He was traded to Cleveland for the 1986 season and served for the next five years there strictly as a ▪︎ backup. In 1988, he took over for an injured Bernie Kosar and Don Strock and played well in a playoff loss to the Houston Oilers. Pagel finished up the last three years with the Los Angeles Rams, never garnering more than mop-up duties. ■ Pagel now resides in suburban Cleveland, Ohio, and is a project manager for AT&T ● He also serves as analyst for the pregame, halftime and postgame shows on WTAM and WMMS during Browns games and offers television color commentary on college games on Fox Sports Network. Pagel also provides video commentary on his own site Pagel On Point. In addition, he presently is the quarterback coach at Normandy High School in Parma, Ohio. Sports is part of the family bloodline; ▪︎ Mike's brother Karl Pagel played baseball for the Chicago Cubs and Cleveland Indians. His brother Rick was a starting defensive end for the United States Naval Academy and served over 20 years as a helicopter pilot in the Marine Corps. Two of his other brothers also played junior college sports. His brother, Bruce, played offensive line at Glendale (AZ) Community College, and is now a professor of political science at Santa Fe College. His brother, Ross, played quarterback for Phoenix College, and later played first base for the college baseball team. ● Washington High School in Phoenix Arizona named their football field after Mike Pagel. ( picture below of # 10 Mike Pagel playing against Pittsburgh ) Edited August 29 by mjp28 # 10 QB Mike Pagel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: ~ FILE ~ this BROWNS' Quarterback who A. wore the # 10 (1986-1990) B. played 132 games. C. NOT too spectacular D. had some "interesting other" side notes and you get .... MIKE PAGEL ? Yes, Michael Jonathan. Pagel. Learn more This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page Michael Jonathan Pagel (born September 13, 1960) is an American former professional football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the Arizona State Sun Devils and was selected by the Baltimore Colts in the fourth round of the 1982 NFL draft. At 6'2" and 206 lb (93 kg), Pagel played in 12 NFL seasons from 1982 to 1993. ★ Mike Pagel <--▪︎ SEE ADDED-IN EXTRA NOTES ! No. 18, 10, 14 Position: Quarterback Personal information Born: September 13, 1960 (age 63) Douglas, Arizona, U.S. Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 206 lb (93 kg) Career information High school: Washington (Phoenix, Arizona) College: Arizona State ▪︎--> NFL draft: 1982 / Round: 4 / Pick: 84 <--▪︎ Career history Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts (1982–1985) Cleveland Browns (1986–1990) <--▪︎ 5 years Los Angeles Rams (1991–1993) Massachusetts Marauders (1994) <--▪︎ Arena Career highlights and awards First-team All-Pac-10 (1981) Career NFL statistics TDs-INT: 49–63 <--▪︎ uh-oh ! Passing yards: 9,414 Passer rating: 63.3 Career Arena statistics <-- Arena ? Completions: 205 Attempts: 380 Touchdowns: 46/14 <--▪︎ WOW ! Interceptions: 14 Passing yards: 2,713 Player stats at PFR · ArenaFan.com Drafted the same year as Art Schlichter, Pagel was drafted to be groomed as a backup. Generally he out-played Schlichter. Pagel bounced in and out of the starting quarterback job for the Colts in his four seasons with the team, alternating with Schlichter, Matt Kofler, and Mark Herrmann. He was the last Colt to wear #18 before Peyton Manning. He was traded to Cleveland for the 1986 season and served for the next five years there strictly as a backup. In 1988, he took over for an injured Bernie Kosar and Don Strock and played well in a playoff loss to the Houston Oilers. Pagel finished up the last three years with the Los Angeles Rams, never garnering more than mop-up duties. Pagel now resides in suburban Cleveland, Ohio, and is a project manager for AT&T. He also serves as analyst for the pregame, halftime and postgame shows on WTAM and WMMS during Browns games and offers television color commentary on college games on Fox Sports Network. Pagel also provides video commentary on his own site Pagel On Point. In addition, he presently is the quarterback coach at Normandy High School in Parma, Ohio. Sports is part of the family bloodline; Mike's brother Karl Pagel played baseball for the Chicago Cubs and Cleveland Indians. His brother Rick was a starting defensive end for the United States Naval Academy and served over 20 years as a helicopter pilot in the Marine Corps. Two of his other brothers also played junior college sports. His brother, Bruce, played offensive line at Glendale (AZ) Community College, and is now a professor of political science at Santa Fe College. His brother, Ross, played quarterback for Phoenix College, and later played first base for the college baseball team. Washington High School in Phoenix Arizona named their football field after Mike Pagel. ( picture below of # 10 Mike Pagel playing against Pittsburgh ) Pagel rented a house in our neighborhood for a couple years. Nice guy, actually saw him do yard work fairly often. He had skills & a strong arm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 ~ ANOTHER ~ BROWNS' player and yes a KICKER who wore the ... # 9 the LONGEST period was here for NINE YEARS and with other teams too. ... Mr MATT BAHR . He also comes from a kicking family. SUMMARY. Career. G. 235 AV. 39 FGM 300 FGA. 415 XPM. 522. XPA, 534 Career history Pittsburgh Steelers (1979–1980) San Francisco 49ers (1981) ● Cleveland Browns (1981–1989) <--▪︎ New York Giants (1990–1992) Philadelphia Eagles (1993) New England Patriots (1993–1995) ▪︎ In 1979, he was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the sixth round of the 1979 NFL draft. His brother Chris Bahr followed a similar career path. Over his career, which spanned from 1979 to 1995, he played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the San Francisco 49ers, the ● Cleveland Browns, the New York Giants, the Philadelphia Eagles and the New England Patriots. As a rookie, he won a Super Bowl ring with the Steelers in Super Bowl XIV. In 1981, Bahr signed with the 49ers, but was. ● traded to the Cleveland Browns midway through the season, thus missing out on a second Super Bowl ring (the 49ers went on the win the Super Bowl that year). After discovering he had been traded, Bahr left a note on his San Francisco locker stating, "See you in the Super Bowl. While this did not happen (the Browns went 5–11 in 1981), Bahr did get some retribution against his former team when he kicked a game winning field goal to give the Browns a 15–12 victory over San Francisco in week 11. ● His longest tenure was with the Browns where he played for. NINE YEARS. and was cut during the 1990 preseason. In late September of that season he was picked up by the New York Giants after a repetitious injury to Raul Allegre. He is best remembered for his performance in the 1990 NFC Championship Game on January 20, 1991, as he set an NFC Championship Game record with five field goals (including a 42-yarder as time expired) to lift the Giants past the 49ers 15–13. He also kicked what would prove to be the decisive field goal in Super Bowl XXV on January 27, 1991, as the Giants beat the Buffalo Bills 20–19, also recording a tackle on the opening kickoff. Bahr played the final seasons of his career with the New England Patriots. In 1996, rookie kicker Adam Vinatieri beat him out for the starting kicker spot on the team, and he decided to retire after being cut by Patriots during the preseason Bahr held the record for longest span for a player between Super Bowl victories at 11 years, until Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens went 12 years from Super Bowl XXXV in 2001 to Super Bowl XLVII in 2013. Bahr finished his 17 seasons with 300 of 415 field goals and 522 of 534 extra points. Overall, he scored a total of 1,422 points. At the time of his retirement, Bahr was the last active NFL player that played for the Steelers in at least one of their four Super Bowl wins in the 1970s. Coincidentally, his last year in the NFL saw the Steelers return to the Super Bowl that season in Super Bowl XXX, their first Super Bowl appearance since his rookie season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, Bob806 said: Pagel rented a house in our neighborhood for a couple years. Nice guy, actually saw him do yard work fairly often. He had skills & a strong arm. Pagel wasn't the worst.. Or great by any means but a good , serviceable QB with a great personality One thing I miss about the 80's teams.. They had personality and hungout with the locals... My encounters with guys like Ozzie Newsome and Greg Pruitt as a kid in the 70's were memorable... They lived in our part of East Cleveland.. My older brother and I ran into them regularly at the local convenient store all the time.. They were always great to us and gave us autographs and never asked for a single penny... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: ~ ANOTHER ~ BROWNS' player and yes a KICKER who wore the ... # 9 the LONGEST period was here for NINE YEARS and with other teams too. ... Mr MATT BAHR . He also comes from a kicking family. SUMMARY. Career. G. 235 AV. 39 FGM 300 FGA. 415 XPM. 522. XPA, 534 Career history Pittsburgh Steelers (1979–1980) San Francisco 49ers (1981) ● Cleveland Browns (1981–1989) <--▪︎ New York Giants (1990–1992) Philadelphia Eagles (1993) New England Patriots (1993–1995) ▪︎ In 1979, he was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the sixth round of the 1979 NFL draft. His brother Chris Bahr followed a similar career path. Over his career, which spanned from 1979 to 1995, he played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the San Francisco 49ers, the ● Cleveland Browns, the New York Giants, the Philadelphia Eagles and the New England Patriots. As a rookie, he won a Super Bowl ring with the Steelers in Super Bowl XIV. In 1981, Bahr signed with the 49ers, but was. ● traded to the Cleveland Browns midway through the season, thus missing out on a second Super Bowl ring (the 49ers went on the win the Super Bowl that year). After discovering he had been traded, Bahr left a note on his San Francisco locker stating, "See you in the Super Bowl. While this did not happen (the Browns went 5–11 in 1981), Bahr did get some retribution against his former team when he kicked a game winning field goal to give the Browns a 15–12 victory over San Francisco in week 11. ● His longest tenure was with the Browns where he played for. NINE YEARS. and was cut during the 1990 preseason. In late September of that season he was picked up by the New York Giants after a repetitious injury to Raul Allegre. He is best remembered for his performance in the 1990 NFC Championship Game on January 20, 1991, as he set an NFC Championship Game record with five field goals (including a 42-yarder as time expired) to lift the Giants past the 49ers 15–13. He also kicked what would prove to be the decisive field goal in Super Bowl XXV on January 27, 1991, as the Giants beat the Buffalo Bills 20–19, also recording a tackle on the opening kickoff. Bahr played the final seasons of his career with the New England Patriots. In 1996, rookie kicker Adam Vinatieri beat him out for the starting kicker spot on the team, and he decided to retire after being cut by Patriots during the preseason Bahr held the record for longest span for a player between Super Bowl victories at 11 years, until Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens went 12 years from Super Bowl XXXV in 2001 to Super Bowl XLVII in 2013. Bahr finished his 17 seasons with 300 of 415 field goals and 522 of 534 extra points. Overall, he scored a total of 1,422 points. At the time of his retirement, Bahr was the last active NFL player that played for the Steelers in at least one of their four Super Bowl wins in the 1970s. Coincidentally, his last year in the NFL saw the Steelers return to the Super Bowl that season in Super Bowl XXX, their first Super Bowl appearance since his rookie season. My fave kicker of all time... He was a badass and not afraid to go all in suicide on ST's.. His brother Chris was decent too!... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) ~ A ~ Cleveland BROWNS Quarterback who wore the .... # 8 jersey .... for a brief period of time -but- somehow it seems much longer was one Mr TRENT DILFER in the 2005 Season. It turns out that ... TRENT DILFER. ... was a very much traveled QB. TRENT DILFER .... SUMMARY Career. G. 130. AV. 60. QBrec. 58-55-0. Cmp% 55.5. Yds. 20518. /A. 6.5. TD. 113. Int. 129. FantPt. 1069.5 Cleveland Browns In March 2005, Dilfer was traded to the Cleveland Browns where it was hoped he would mentor rookie quarterback Charlie Frye. Naming Dilfer the starting quarterback for the 2005 NFL season, the idea was to work Frye into the lineup under the veteran's tutelage, but a behind-the-scenes dispute with then-offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon resulted in Dilfer's wanting out of Cleveland almost immediately. In his lone season for the Browns, Dilfer passed for 2,321 yards and 11 touchdowns, throwing 12 interceptions and fumbling 9 times (losing 7 of those). His passer rating was 76.9. He did however have the highest completion percentage of his career at 59.8 percent. The Browns would fall to 6 - 10 that season. TRENT DILFER's. TRAVELS. .... Regular season - CLE 2005 - Year Team Games Passing GP GS Record Cmp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rtg 1994 TB 5 2 0–2 38 82 46.3 433 5.3 1 6 36.3 1995 TB 16 16 7–9 224 415 54.0 2,774 6.7 4 18 60.1 1996 TB 16 16 6–10 267 482 55.4 2,859 5.9 12 19 64.8 1997 TB 16 16 10–6 217 386 56.2 2,555 6.6 21 11 82.8 1998 TB 16 16 8–8 225 429 52.4 2,729 6.4 21 15 74.0 1999 TB 10 10 7–3 146 244 59.8 1,619 6.6 11 11 75.8 2000 BAL 11 8 7–1 134 226 59.3 1,502 6.6 12 11 76.6 2001 SEA 6 4 4–0 73 122 59.8 1,014 8.3 7 4 92.0 2002 SEA 6 6 2–4 94 168 56.0 1,182 7.0 4 6 71.1 2003 SEA 5 0 – 4 8 50.0 31 3.9 1 1 59.9 2004 SEA 5 2 2–0 25 58 43.1 333 5.7 1 3 46.1 ▪︎-->2005 CLE 11 11 4–7 199 333 59.8 2,321 7.0 11 12 76.9 <--▪︎ 2006 SF 0 0 – DNP 2007 SF 7 6 1–5 113 219 51.6 1,166 6.3 7 12 55.1 Career 130 113 58–55 1,759 3,172 55.5 20,518 6.5 113 129 70.2 Edited September 1 by mjp28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob806 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 15 hours ago, syd said: days away Thank you Baker for unlocking the Bud Light fridge vs the NY Jets, and enlightening the fans & ownership how Hue was over his head Too bad it wore out, but he was a part of Browns history that made it fun again. 2018 will always be one of my favorite seasons, even though it was 7-8-1. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 17 hours ago, syd said: days away 1 hour ago, Bob806 said: Thank you Baker for unlocking the Bud Light fridge vs the NY Jets, and enlightening the fans & ownership how Hue was over his head Too bad it wore out, but he was a part of Browns history that made it fun again. 2018 will always be one of my favorite seasons, even though it was 7-8-1. Very fair post. I have no desire for Baker. He played his role, but reached his emotional ceiling with the Browns. I'm thankful for his help in reigniting the franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dutch Oven Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 23 hours ago, Bob806 said: Thank you Baker for unlocking the Bud Light fridge vs the NY Jets, and enlightening the fans & ownership how Hue was over his head Too bad it wore out, but he was a part of Browns history that made it fun again. 2018 will always be one of my favorite seasons, even though it was 7-8-1. I could have done without him showing up to Training Camp the next season fat and out of shape, and as one Browns front office guy said "It appears he never opened the playbook all off-season" and pretty much torpedoing the 2019 season. The Broncos loss, though, was entertaining, as Baker shaved part of his facial hair off at halftime, then the rest after the game. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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