nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, hoorta said: Some other thoughts. Yep, Watson looked terrible even before he got hit. Almost shot putting the ball, and his accuracy was off too. Yeah nickers, I know you think he's washed up- but that albatross contract the Browns gave him means they're married to him for at least several more years. You had better hope that you're wrong about DW. Thing is, the Browns need Watson to play at somewhere close to his former pro bowl level to be in the playoff race. Who knows if that shoulder injury is going to turn into a chronic issue. For sure, we're not going to travel to that house of horrors in Seattle where the Browns have historically played like crap- and think we have a prayer with Walker at quarterback again. He is who he is, a practice squad type of guy. I agree that Berry should start working the phones to try and find an upgrade, but it's going to cost us. We got suckered into thinking in preseason that DTR was ready for prime time, turns out he clearly wasn't. Finally, I certainly hope that Ward's "head injury" isn't yet again another concussion. If it is, it could shelf him for a month, if not for good. I love the guy, I've mentioned he went to the same high school as my niece and nephew... But sometimes you just have to think about life after football. 🙄 Fuck Watson... He's a lazy no good POS... He's satisfied and he's already checked out.. Fuck him and his contract... Contracts can be broken... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: To be honest, my sentiments come from the rational position of thinking Watson will miss several more games. I know Stefanski said he's the guy Sunday, but IDK. Getting 3-4 games of even slightly above average QB could be incredibly important, especially against the division. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled if they got Jacoby back. The FO should have been shopping QBs after the first quarter DTR played. As the commanders hopes keep dwindling, they should be happy to part with Brisset for a low pick (5th?) This FO really needs to be on the phones with QBs, otherwise Sunday may be a write off with PJ in Seattle. Besides trading for Brisket, there are plenty of FAs that should be able to outplay PJ Walker. (Foles, Wentz, Ryan?, Flacco, McCoy) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, bbedward said: Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled if they got Jacoby back. The FO should have been shopping QBs after the first quarter DTR played. As the commanders hopes keep dwindling, they should be happy to part with Brisset for a low pick (5th?) This FO really needs to be on the phones with QBs, otherwise Sunday may be a write off with PJ in Seattle. Besides trading for Brisket, there are plenty of FAs that should be able to outplay PJ Walker. (Foles, Wentz, Ryan?, Flacco, McCoy) I would take McCoy back in a heart beat... The kid has heart at least... Watson has none... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 On a side note...doesnt Minshew remind you of Gallagher...the watermelon smashing comedian?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 You cant bench a 230 million Dollar investment. Remember the vikings trade for herschel walker...created the cowboys dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: You cant bench a 230 million Dollar investment. Remember the vikings trade for herschel walker...created the cowboys dynasty. Wanna bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, nickers said: Wanna bet? Yeah, Watson could be benched- the most expensive dead weight in NFL history. And he actually did get benched because he looked like crap before he got decked in the first quarter. 2 hours ago, nickers said: Fuck Watson... He's a lazy no good POS... He's satisfied and he's already checked out.. Fuck him and his contract... Contracts can be broken... Yes, I know you hate the guy BUT... Mr. Cap Guru, I'm all ears as to how the Browns can somehow get out of paying Watson his guaranteed $230 million. If you look at the dead cap #s, there's no way Cleveland can trade or cut him before the 2026 season. https://spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/deshaun-watson-21753/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, hoorta said: Yeah, Watson could be benched- the most expensive dead weight in NFL history. And he actually did get benched because he looked like crap before he got decked in the first quarter. Yes, I know you hate the guy BUT... Mr. Cap Guru, I'm all ears as to how the Browns can somehow get out of paying Watson his guaranteed $230 million. If you look at the dead cap #s, there's no way Cleveland can trade or cut him before the 2026 season. https://spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/deshaun-watson-21753/ It's simple Larry... you cut him... And if he wants to ever play again... No one will take his contract unless he takes a pay cut... And the way things have gone for him... No one will take him and he can quietly retire and go back to his hand jobs... He cares more about hand jobs than football.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, nickers said: It's simple Larry... you cut him... And if he wants to ever play again... No one will take his contract unless he takes a pay cut... And the way things have gone for him... No one will take him and he can quietly retire and go back to his hand jobs... He cares more about hand jobs than football.. Don't be dense Nickers. You obviously are clueless how dead cap money works. You cut Watson after the 2023 season there's this little detail of a $200 million dead cap hit. Cut him, you may as well cut the rest of the team while you're at it. Untradeable, and uncuttable. (at least until 2026) Deal with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, hoorta said: Don't be dense Nickers. You obviously are clueless how dead cap money works. You cut Watson after the 2023 season there's this little detail of a $200 million dead cap hit. Cut him, you may as well cut the rest of the team while you're at it. Untradeable, and uncuttable. (at least until 2026) Deal with it. The Browns have to deal with it... They created this mess... The best thing for Watson to do for the betterment of everyone is retire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, hoorta said: Untradeable, and uncuttable. (at least until 2026) Deal with it. Someone needs shitcanned just for this alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 So much for this dude being "hurt"... He's definitely a pussy!!!... Can't raise his arm?... BULLSHIT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 He’s just the centerpiece of the soon to be announced browns cheerleaders. well, err maybe that’s not a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Don't be dense Nickers. You obviously are clueless how anything in the world works. Fixed it for you, hoorta. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieSuperBowl2 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: That’s my QB! 👍 The ladies love Bernie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, BernieSuperBowl2 said: The ladies love Bernie! She looks like my friends Sister... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Someone needs shitcanned just for this alone. The owner won't cut himself. Will he axe DePodesta? I'm probably in the minority, but if Stefanski takes the fall for this, it would be so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob806 said: The owner won't cut himself. Will he axe DePodesta? I'm probably in the minority, but if Stefanski takes the fall for this, it would be so wrong. I don’t think Kev had any say so in that deal. This deal reeks of desperation and stupidity so I would guess it was hatched by Depo and/or AB, and Jimmah wrote the check. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: I don’t think Kev had any say so in that deal. This deal reeks of desperation and stupidity so I would guess it was hatched by Depo and/or AB, and Jimmah wrote the check. Sounds about how it went down... I don't even know what purpose Depud serves on this team... Hes worthless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 All the Browns have to do is terminate Watson's contract for cause. Cause he sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDawg Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 10:30 PM, nickers said: Kwence sucks... LOL c'mon man.. All he does is repeat himself over and over like a dolt.. He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, MDDawg said: He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem. That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision. For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call.. He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDawg Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, hoorta said: Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem. That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision. For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call.. He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play. In terms of clock management Kevin made the right call plus when the play is well executed you create your own luck. Walker does suck but wasn't here for training camp and yet to have a full week's practice under his belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, hoorta said: Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem. That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision. For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call.. He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play. This is where Kevin was WRONG…other people may disagree with me but PJ Walker throwing jump balls into a crowded end zone or 33 seconds you get two chances with Hunt (arguably one of the best short yard backs in the game). You could have added to your life expectancy Kevin. The Njoku shovel play was a risk he’s a big guy but he’s catching the ball outside of the end zone and needs to weave his way into a crowded line of scrimmage and pick the right hole…not something he does on the regular. And if he doesn’t make the end zone you are in that same clock predicament he mentioned. Simplify the game. It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone. It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 24, 2023 Report Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: Simplify the game. It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone. It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. I don't call him moneyman for nothing. Hunt smells endzones inside the 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 hours ago, hoorta said: He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play. TE pivot vs... what looks like some form of cover 2? Maybe Quarters? Either way, PJ should have immediately just calmly flipped this ball to David when he saw the CB high and outside. It's a walk in TD. Doesn't get much easier than that. Speaking of walk in TD's.... 5 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: he’s catching the ball outside of the end zone and needs to weave his way into a crowded line of scrimmage and pick the right hole… When people say things like this, and believe me, there's A LOT of them. It genuinely makes me wonder what they're seeing that's so different from reality? I get the game is fast, but I saw this real time and just put my head down. There was no need to "weave". It wasn't the least crowded. Catch, turn, two steps... TD. PJ just fired the ball a million miles an hour into David's right shoulder as he was turning. Two great calls by Stef for gimmie scores. Bottom line, QB play has to be better. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 just need to execute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: I don't call him moneyman for nothing. Hunt smells endzones inside the 10. Yes he is and it’s certainly better than a shovel pass with a practice squad QB…and I wonder why that play wasn’t easy- go figure a play call with a QB that can’t see the field well and deliver accurate passes (and almost gave up the game last week) Hunt scores on 1st down and avoids all the nonsense on 2nd and 3rd down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 There’s QBs on the street that wouldn’t make these egregious mistakes, I’d be cutting Walker and bringing in someone else even if Watson is back this weekend. Keep DTR as the 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 5:53 PM, TexasAg1969 said: ..... Ah-ha ! Ask and you will get your answer .... or maybe just "an answer" to someone's question, or whatever ...... but at least it was both quick and as always FREE here on TBB. And here I was about to ask who had been sacrificing virgins the last couple of weeks to insure that Browns win games. But now I have the answer: Bowser76.🤣 ...... OK, the answer to your question. We didn't forget now, the answer. The virgin(s) thing to insure that the BROWNS win games, or was it a dead chicken ..... and well was that before during or right after the game, delivered to Coach Kevin in a KFC bucket. .... Ah, on the virgins thing before or during or especially after. at .... any time around a BROWNS GAME ah, no can do. SORRY. ( please use the expand command symboi, thank you ) I hope that answered your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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