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14 hours ago, hoorta said:

Time stamp...  3/20/2022   Watson starts  12/4/2022  You can now take your selective morality and leave the BROWNS Forum.. PERMANENTLY...  Please...  I hear Baker needs your support after he got benched in favor of SAM DARNOLD.   :D   

Josh Rosen was your hero - "quick release" and "prototype pocket passer". So, your judgement is null and void.

and I was simply responding to diehard's stupid comment.

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1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Fans don't disown a team over a quarterback trade.  You're no fan.   

I didn't disown the team. I love the players - I hate the trade, the FO and the OWNERS.

I was delighted they beat the Bucs. You're a sad kind of "man" on both forums. You want to give watson happy endings, that's on you.

 

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On 11/29/2022 at 10:11 PM, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

I am not going to debate Watson on any other plane than his play. Whether someone wants to debate all the side issues is fine w me. I just don't give a shit.

I agree....to a point.  If old or new, related to past issues or new issues, become a distraction or just too much of a black eye (like say, an Antonio Brown)....then ya gotta give a shit.  Until then, it's football.  And hopefully until then never comes.

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On 11/27/2022 at 10:07 PM, Orion said:

Is Baker 3rd string in Carolina?

Let's look at our last cluster of 1st round QBs:

Brady Quinn who left Cleveland to be Tim Tebow's backup in Denver

Brandon Weeden drafted 2 rounds before someone way more intelligent drafted Russell Wilson. 

Johnny Blutarsky-Manziel:  If Woodstock had a High School Football Team looking for a Head Coach - he'd be perfect.  No playbook required here kids!

Baker Mayfield.  The end came fast after a promising start.  

Even more depressing is all of the QBs we could have selected since Bernie Kosar was the only QB we got right in the 1st round of the draft (albeit the Supplemental Draft) almost 40 years ago.

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On 11/28/2022 at 11:52 AM, calfoxwc said:

Josh Rosen was your hero - "quick release" and "prototype pocket passer". So, your judgement is null and void.

and I was simply responding to diehard's stupid comment.

You're trying to make a mount out of a molehill Cal...  The above was Tour's assessment. Rosen was about my third choice.  Going to root for the Browns to lose tomorrow, just because you hate Watson? It wouldn't surprise me one bit.  

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6 minutes ago, hoorta said:

You're trying to make a mount out of a molehill Cal...  The above was Tour's assessment. Rosen was about my third choice.  Going to root for the Browns to lose tomorrow, just because you hate Watson? It wouldn't surprise me one bit.  

No, I'm not. My opinion doesn't match yours - get over it. Rosen, I think was your third choice. Guess who was your fifth choice?

Josh Allen. Compare the two careers. I won that one. I'm not rooting for the dirtbag qb to win. It's complicated. Still want the rest of the Browns players to win. Bissett played his heart out, and deserves better.

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43 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

No, I'm not. My opinion doesn't match yours - get over it. Rosen, I think was your third choice. Guess who was your fifth choice?

Josh Allen. Compare the two careers. I won that one. I'm not rooting for the dirtbag qb to win. It's complicated. Still want the rest of the Browns players to win. Bissett played his heart out, and deserves better.

Still tooting your horn you got that one right?  Damn fact Allen couldn't hit the broadside of a barn 1\2 the time at Wyoming, or you forget I scouted the hell out of him?    

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I've gotten so many predictions right that I literally can't remember them all..... but it's the many I got wrong that still haunt my dreams.

I'm such a teenage girl deep down inside. Wait, can I start using their changing room at the gym? 

^ Oh man, that's gonna get me canceled. 

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14 minutes ago, D Bone said:

I've gotten so many predictions right that I literally can't remember them all..... but it's the many I got wrong that still haunt my dreams.

I'm such a teenage girl deep down inside. Wait, can I start using their changing room at the gym? 

^ Oh man, that's gonna get me canceled. 

Oh lord, you going to start talking about the made-up war on Christmas next? 

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26 minutes ago, D Bone said:

I've gotten so many predictions right that I literally can't remember them all..... but it's the many I got wrong that still haunt my dreams.

I'm such a teenage girl deep down inside. Wait, can I start using their changing room at the gym? 

^ Oh man, that's gonna get me canceled. 

😆 I hear ya!   Slightly different but same feeling afterward:  I've gotten more predictions right that I didn't want to come true than ones I wanted to come true.  

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5 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

     you "scout" like a grizzled old homeless guy - unless you parrot Tiam, as usual, who knows his stuff. Have a nice day.http:

http://hellinahandbasket.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/homeless-guy-with-big-beard.jpg

 

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On 11/28/2022 at 6:49 PM, calfoxwc said:

I didn't disown the team. I love the players - I hate the trade, the FO and the OWNERS.

I was delighted they beat the Bucs. You're a sad kind of "man" on both forums. You want to give watson happy endings, that's on you.

 

So happy now Cal? Browns win and Watson plays like crap?   

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3 hours ago, hoorta said:

So happy now Cal? Browns win and Watson plays like crap?   

sorry your loverboy watson was allowed to make a bigger ass of himself on the field, instead of just in real life. I'm happy the rest of the players got a win. Without three TD's from the defense and spec teams.... the browns would have lost 8-3. The upside is, didn't watch it, was running errands, and was happy to avoid seeing stefanski trying to look intelligent on the sidelines.

  

  

   

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6 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

sorry your loverboy watson was allowed to make a bigger ass of himself on the field, instead of just in real life. I'm happy the rest of the players got a win. Without three TD's from the defense and spec teams.... the browns would have lost 8-3. The upside is, didn't watch it, was running errands, and was happy to avoid seeing stefanski trying to look intelligent on the sidelines.

  

  

   

Your Panthers still having "a real fun season" cal? 

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On 11/27/2022 at 3:04 PM, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

OMG, fans quitting the Browns over Watson? Holy fuck, this is bad. I mean it, this is really bad.

This is going to be worse than all the Americans who left America over the election of Trump.

What is the end game of all this fucktard morality debate? The Browns announce that they made a mistake, cut Watson and get nothing for $230 million?

This is mental masturbation. It's done. The guy suits up next week and the only thing I care about is whether or not he pans out.

YES !    It's the big picture not the other totally rehashed to death minutiae  of the past year and a half. 

GO BROWNS,  just keep winning  ...... baby !

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https://www.nfl.com/news/panthers-expected-to-release-qb-baker-mayfield-waivers

I'll be interested to see where his career goes from here. Say what you will, I have no ill will toward the guy. All the stuff said was just his personality and I'll never not believe he was a big reason the Browns have climbed out of the dumpster to least be competitive. Someone will pick him up as a backup, for sure, but will his ego allow the quiet role on a long-term backup? 

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Baker Mayfield is a complete fucking loser. He couldn't even keep the starting job on a bottom 3 team. Baker has backup caliber talent at best. And no team wants to deal with his bitchiness and moping about not being the starter. He should just quit the NFL and join the Canadian Football League. Goodbye Loser Baker!!!

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Anyone surprised  ?  Baker close to being done in the NFL  ?   Yahoo Sports.

The Baker Mayfield experiment with the Carolina Panthers is over.

Carolina released the former Cleveland Browns No. 1 overall pick, the team announced Monday morning. This decision comes almost five months after the Panthers traded a conditional 2024 fifth-round pick to the Browns for Mayfield.

The move is only surprising given the proximity to the trade, as Mayfield's first season with the Panthers has proven to be tumultuous.

Though he began the season as the Panthers' Week 1 starter, Mayfield bounced between the team's first, second and third options at quarterback. He went 1-4 as the starter before an ankle injury sidelined him for a week and lost the starting job to P.J. Walker. Mayfield didn't see action again until Week 9 when he came on in the second half for Walker and then returned to the starting line-up for Week 11. Mayfield lost the starter job again — this time to Sam Darnold before Week 12, who had returned from a preseason ankle injury of his own.

Mayfield finished his Panthers tenure with career-lows in completion percentage (57.8 percent), yards per game (187.6) and only six touchdowns with six interceptions ---> and the story continues,  well maybe --->

 
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