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[DieHardBrownsFan1]

 

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

2 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Just because someone is working on curing cancer doesn't mean others can't work on making a cancer patient's life easier. 

It isn't just one or the other. 

 

 

"College is a resort" depends greatly on where you go and what you study 

Your job must not be hard or important since you are on here fighting with old men 90 percent of the time!

[Axe]

[nickers]

1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Your job must not be hard or important since you are on here fighting with old men 90 percent of the time!

Wait He's a lib... He doesn't have to work.. JoePa Biden will take care of everything... Remember?...

[Vambo]

 

[Westside Steve]

5 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

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"College is a resort" depends greatly on where you go and what you study 

That's true. But I think that most colleges and most fields of studies require very little dedication and have plenty of time for partying.

WSS

[MLD Woody]

53 minutes ago, nickers said:

Wait He's a lib... He doesn't have to work.. JoePa Biden will take care of everything... Remember?...

Oh boy you're stupid 

[MLD Woody]

Just now, Westside Steve said:

That's true. But I think that most colleges and most fields of studies require very little dedication and have plenty of time for partying.

WSS

You were a theater major so... That's your perspective 

 

[nickers]

23 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Oh boy you're stupid 

This coming from a mental midget like you is hilarious!

[MLD Woody]

5 minutes ago, nickers said:

This coming from a mental midget like you is hilarious!

Nickers, I mean this with all sincerity, you may be the dumbest person on this board. And that's a very low bar...

[hammertime]

34 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Nickers, I mean this with all sincerity, you may be the dumbest person on this board. And that's a very low bar...

Your easily the most Hated poster here with zero

charisma  and zero friends.

basically your an educated loser who is in denial about everything.

 I think nickers could teach you quite a few things 

[nickers]

22 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Nickers, I mean this with all sincerity, you may be the dumbest person on this board. And that's a very low bar...

 I could use Brain damage as an excuse...  You're just a plain idiot...

[Vambo]

white house states if they payoff student loans the people would then be able to take out another loan to buy a house

[Axe]

[Westside Steve]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

You were a theater major so... That's your perspective 

 

Exactly. And that's exactly why people should be outraged if I took out a huge loan and you suckers had to pay it off.

WSS

[htownbrown]

You gotta love how college kids these days think...

The extremely rich corporations that offer 401k matching, stock options, paid leave, insurance, competitive pay, and on and on....are not paying their fair share...so shake them down and take their money?  Fucking amazing with all that education THIS is the logic that rises to the top.

I don't give a shit how much college costs, thats between you and the school YOU choose.  In fact, if you want to take someone's money, take their money.  If this is the best solution you can concoct than they certainly got paid too much.  

I guess it's up to the less educated to fix the economy, the 'intellectuals' apparently aren't good with money.

[Vambo]

Politics

Biden admin may face flood of lawsuits over $500 billion student loan handout

[Westside Steve]

Back to the topic at hand is anybody surprised by these numbers?

https://educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-by-major

Graduating from nursing school seems like a ticket to a job unlike business administration or worse yet a vague liberal arts degree.

Seems like a bachelors in psychology is pretty useless as would be undergrad in cosmetology.

Music isn't on there but I have never hired a guy because of his degree in music do I have hired people that had degrees in music. Just not many and not for that reason.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

More interesting stats. Arts and Humanities default the most? I'm shocked.

https://educationdata.org/student-loan-default-rate#:~:text=At a rate of 26.33,default on their student loans.

WSS

[MLD Woody]

14 hours ago, htownbrown said:

You gotta love how college kids these days think...

The extremely rich corporations that offer 401k matching, stock options, paid leave, insurance, competitive pay, and on and on....are not paying their fair share...so shake them down and take their money?  Fucking amazing with all that education THIS is the logic that rises to the top.

I don't give a shit how much college costs, thats between you and the school YOU choose.  In fact, if you want to take someone's money, take their money.  If this is the best solution you can concoct than they certainly got paid too much.  

I guess it's up to the less educated to fix the economy, the 'intellectuals' apparently aren't good with money.

Well thank God we have you to set us all straight, huh?

If you think corporations and the extremely wealthy aren't playing games to cheat the tax code then I'm not sure what to say. 

[MLD Woody]

17 hours ago, hammertime said:

Your easily the most Hated poster here with zero

charisma  and zero friends.

basically your an educated loser who is in denial about everything.

 I think nickers could teach you quite a few things 

And yet I seem to not be able to post anywhere without you replying...

Didn't think I had so much space in your head. Figured it was all taken up by your hero, our Qanon village idiot. 

[MLD Woody]

4 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

More interesting stats. Arts and Humanities default the most? I'm shocked.

https://educationdata.org/student-loan-default-rate#:~:text=At a rate of 26.33,default on their student loans.

WSS

I'm not against some kind of adjustment by degree. But this overall attempt at a reset is needed. The whole system needs worked on. But you can treat the symptoms whike still (hopefully) attempting to treat the disease. 

Old folks ranting about what they were able to afford while working part time is less than worthless at this point. They have zero understanding of the current state of things. 

 

And your point was that you thought college was a 4 year resort. It may be for some of your liberal arts friends, but not for plenty of others. Your response about loans by degree doesn't really address that original statement at all.

 

[MLD Woody]

On 8/26/2022 at 9:21 AM, Westside Steve said:

Let's face it except for a handful of kids and hardcore socialists Bernie didn't stand a chance in hell. And the kids traditionally don't go to the polls. Even if they change the requirements it's still almost impossible to get them off the couch. They wanted a member of the ruling class I.E Joe or Hillary or whoever the hell. Same thing with the Republicans that's why so many of them are fighting tooth and nail against the guy that made them look like idiots. Unlike the Democrats and Bernie Sanders the Republicans didn't really try to sabotage Trump during the primaries. Why? They didn't think he had a chance. Sure you can pretend Republicans are out for the rich kind of a silly notion but it is an age-old cliche. And it's less valid than the idea that the Democrats want to help minorities. They don't give a damn about minorities they care about power.

I realize I've veered away from the main point, sorry.

WSS

Bernie absolutely stood a chance. We had people thinking Trump didn't stand a chance (and accurately called him a con man) but Trump won. We had people thinking Biden didn't stand a chance and he won (unless you're a braindead brainwashed moron that believes desperate conspiracy theories). 

Yes, right, lazy kids on the couch. Brilliant. I imagine that post came between you telling at kids to get off your lawn and yelling at kids to stop skateboarding. Brilliant. 

Side note: Insane that voting day isn't a federal holiday. I mean, the Republican strategy is to make it as hard to vote as possible and to limit voting as much as possible, so that's a clear reason why it isn't. Something other countries manage to do but we probably think is communist or some stupid shit like that. 

Wait, so are you saying Trump isn't part of the "ruling class"? The guy thathrags about his wealth as a billionaire. The guy that puts his name on everything and costs everything in gold? The guy that named his son Barron? Yeah, that definitely sounds like a man of the people...

Realizing now through the length of your post you start with saying Bernie didn't stand a chance and then shift to saying the Dems thought he stood a chance. Alright. 

It isn't an age old cliche. The republicans don't give a shit about the working man. They exist to cut taxes for the wealthy and push the myth of trickle down economics. They exist to make a poor white guy in a rural area think that his best bet at prosperity is to cut taxes for corporations and billionaires. All while seeding division through wedge issues and telling him the gays are coming to destroy his way of life (or CRT, or trans folks, or whatever the hot button issue they created is at the moment). 

Sure, plenty of Dems don't care about minorities either. But the fantasy of Trump caring about the every day working man is by far the most ridiculous. Trump, the guy that lives in a golden room in a tower with his name on it. That guy. That guy cares about a blue collar worker in west Virginia. Give me a fucking break. 

[Westside Steve]

2 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Bernie absolutely stood a chance. We had people thinking Trump didn't stand a chance (and accurately called him a con man) but Trump won. We had people thinking Biden didn't stand a chance and he won (unless you're a braindead brainwashed moron that believes desperate conspiracy theories). 

Yes, right, lazy kids on the couch. Brilliant. I imagine that post came between you telling at kids to get off your lawn and yelling at kids to stop skateboarding. Brilliant. 

Side note: Insane that voting day isn't a federal holiday. I mean, the Republican strategy is to make it as hard to vote as possible and to limit voting as much as possible, so that's a clear reason why it isn't. Something other countries manage to do but we probably think is communist or some stupid shit like that. 

Wait, so are you saying Trump isn't part of the "ruling class"? The guy thathrags about his wealth as a billionaire. The guy that puts his name on everything and costs everything in gold? The guy that named his son Barron? Yeah, that definitely sounds like a man of the people...

Realizing now through the length of your post you start with saying Bernie didn't stand a chance and then shift to saying the Dems thought he stood a chance. Alright. 

It isn't an age old cliche. The republicans don't give a shit about the working man. They exist to cut taxes for the wealthy and push the myth of trickle down economics. They exist to make a poor white guy in a rural area think that his best bet at prosperity is to cut taxes for corporations and billionaires. All while seeding division through wedge issues and telling him the gays are coming to destroy his way of life (or CRT, or trans folks, or whatever the hot button issue they created is at the moment). 

Sure, plenty of Dems don't care about minorities either. But the fantasy of Trump caring about the every day working man is by far the most ridiculous. Trump, the guy that lives in a golden room in a tower with his name on it. That guy. That guy cares about a blue collar worker in west Virginia. Give me a fucking break. 

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2017/comm/voting-rates-age.html

By the way don't be silly Trump is not part of the ruling class. Sure he's rich as hell but he's a political outsider. Ross Perot. Remember him? Ralph nader. John Anderson. Remember him? Even though he was a politician but he was a peace guy and the kids just loved him. Unlike Hillary unlike Bill Clinton and the Obammies unlike George Bush 1 and 2 and Jeb Bush etc etc. And whether you have a dream of Bernie supporters marching down Time Square carrying red flags or not the DNC didn't think he had a chance of winning and he was something of an outsider himself. And give me a break about Trump not being sincere about his religious beliefs I doubt it but at least he spoke to the people that believed. Unlike people like you who sneer at religious folks . On the other hand I think that he really likes the Common Man. For people I know that have worked for him he is the common man despite his billions or Millions.

WSS

 

[htownbrown]

46 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Well thank God we have you to set us all straight, huh?

If you think corporations and the extremely wealthy aren't playing games to cheat the tax code then I'm not sure what to say. 

It doesn't address anything Woody.

If a pipe breaks in your attic and causes the drywall to fall on your head, the first person you call shouldn't be the drywall guy.

Nothing you have to say ever addresses the actual problem.  It's always "see those rich people over there...".

So if you don't fix college tuition prices, which must not be worth it anymore, what did you actually fix?  You can mic drop everytime you legally steal people's shit, but only an idiot would think they are actually fixing anything.  Can kicking 101. 

[nickers]

1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2017/comm/voting-rates-age.html

By the way don't be silly Trump is not part of the ruling class. Sure he's rich as hell but he's a political outsider. Ross Perot. Remember him? Ralph nader. John Anderson. Remember him? Even though he was a politician. Unlike Hillary unlike Bill Clinton and the Obammies unlike George Bush 1 and 2 and Jeb Bush etc etc. And whether you have a dream of Bernie supporters marching down Time Square carrying red flags or not the DNC didn't think he had a chance of winning and he was something of an outsider himself. And give me a break about Trump not being sincere about his religious beliefs I doubt it but at least he spoke to the people that believed. Unlike people like you who sneer at religious folks . On the other hand I think that he really likes the Common Man. For people I know that have worked for him he is the common man despite his billions or Millions.

WSS

 

My aunt works for him... That's all I'm gonna say...

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, htownbrown said:

It doesn't address anything Woody.

If a pipe breaks in your attic and causes the drywall to fall on your head, the first person you call shouldn't be the drywall guy.

Nothing you have to say ever addresses the actual problem.  It's always "see those rich people over there...".

So if you don't fix college tuition prices, which must not be worth it anymore, what did you actually fix?  You can mic drop everytime you legally steal people's shit, but only an idiot would think they are actually fixing anything.  Can kicking 101. 

I've repeatedly, in this thread, mentioned the systemic issue of ballooning college tuition. I know you want to swoop in and drop your patented "hard truth" bombs, but I'd suggest following along first. 

That said, you can still try to provide support for those that are victims of the current system. 

And, still, the even increasing wealth gap is a huge issue in this country. The wealthy in powehsve bought enough ads and politicians to convince the middle class the status quo is best for them I guess. To get us all riled up and angry at each other. While they pass tax cuts and loopholes to protect and grow their fortunes. 

 

[htownbrown]

19 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

I've repeatedly, in this thread, mentioned the systemic issue of ballooning college tuition. I know you want to swoop in and drop your patented "hard truth" bombs, but I'd suggest following along first. 

That said, you can still try to provide support for those that are victims of the current system. 

And, still, the even increasing wealth gap is a huge issue in this country. The wealthy in powehsve bought enough ads and politicians to convince the middle class the status quo is best for them I guess. To get us all riled up and angry at each other. While they pass tax cuts and loopholes to protect and grow their fortunes. 

 

I'm swooping?  If you don't want to post than don't. 

Why are you so obsessed with what the democrats can do with other people's money?  First off, you can complain about all the tax breaks, but corporations contribute on such a level that it renders you and I completely useless on any scale.  You think if you just died, went away, that this country would be brought to it's knees?  You should reassess your value to society before you suggest what's fair.  It's laughable to suggest you bring anything to the table, that you would feel cheated by the entities that created everything around you.

I never said you didn't want tuition prices lowered, but you knew that already my guy.  It's really any suggestion of self responsibility you don't like. 

At the company Christmas party this year you should head over to the corporate table and share your ideas.  That lesson will be free of charge.

[MLD Woody]

55 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

I'm swooping?  If you don't want to post than don't. 

Why are you so obsessed with what the democrats can do with other people's money?  First off, you can complain about all the tax breaks, but corporations contribute on such a level that it renders you and I completely useless on any scale.  You think if you just died, went away, that this country would be brought to it's knees?  You should reassess your value to society before you suggest what's fair.  It's laughable to suggest you bring anything to the table, that you would feel cheated by the entities that created everything around you.

I never said you didn't want tuition prices lowered, but you knew that already my guy.  It's really any suggestion of self responsibility you don't like. 

At the company Christmas party this year you should head over to the corporate table and share your ideas.  That lesson will be free of charge.

Nothing there regarding how I post. Just you

I have no idea what obsession you're talking about. So because large corporations employ people and contribute to the GDP they're exempt from paying their fair share. Go look at any graphs showing income inequality over time and it's clear that's an issue.

I never said anything remotely close to thinking I had some great impact on the world. If you're going to quote me and replt at least stay within the realm of reality. 

I responded to post you made. Don't put words in my mouth and I wouldn't have to reply. 

This isn't any crusade against responsibility. I've paid off$60k+ in loans. I still think the system is broken. I still think those suffering should get relief. I do very well for myself, but I still see the struggle others to through with student loans. 

The people up the chain where I work are in the 7 figures. I'm sure many think a certain way. We're in a not typical industry. Not sure if why any of that has any impact on my opinion here. 

[MLD Woody]

4 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2017/comm/voting-rates-age.html

By the way don't be silly Trump is not part of the ruling class. Sure he's rich as hell but he's a political outsider. Ross Perot. Remember him? Ralph nader. John Anderson. Remember him? Even though he was a politician but he was a peace guy and the kids just loved him. Unlike Hillary unlike Bill Clinton and the Obammies unlike George Bush 1 and 2 and Jeb Bush etc etc. And whether you have a dream of Bernie supporters marching down Time Square carrying red flags or not the DNC didn't think he had a chance of winning and he was something of an outsider himself. And give me a break about Trump not being sincere about his religious beliefs I doubt it but at least he spoke to the people that believed. Unlike people like you who sneer at religious folks . On the other hand I think that he really likes the Common Man. For people I know that have worked for him he is the common man despite his billions or Millions.

WSS

 

We have different definitions of ruling class. 

I literally didn't say anything about Trump's religious beliefs. Since you brought it up though he's very clearly pandering. I mean Obama didn't care about Christianity either, but Trump had the most blatant pandering to Christians yet. Anyone that thinks he cares at all about Christianity is a fool. 

 

If you think Trump cares at all about the common man you're completely fallen for the con. The guy cares about the middle to lower class blue collar worker only enough to trick him into thinking he cares and getting his vote. Nothing more.

 

 

It is still amazing to see how hard some fell for Trump's con