Canton Dawg Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.aol.com/nfl-advisor-says-she-feels-025707518.html Watson insisted he never assaulted anybody after accepting his suspension. WSS Does that mean his apology wasn’t real? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Canton Dawg said: Does that mean his apology wasn’t real? 🤔 He sounds fake as hell every time he claims he did nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 NFL Senior Advisor on Deshaun Watson: ‘I Feel Like He’s Playing Us’ https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/08/27/deshaun-watson-nfl-senior-advisor-rita-smith-i-feel-like-hes-playing-us-cleveland-browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, Vambo said: NFL Senior Advisor on Deshaun Watson: ‘I Feel Like He’s Playing Us’ https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/08/27/deshaun-watson-nfl-senior-advisor-rita-smith-i-feel-like-hes-playing-us-cleveland-browns So investigate all 66 therapist and 25 cases again. Spend another 17 months…violate normal due process. Wait…you only focused on 5…why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:52 AM, jrb12711 said: I asked them their honest opinion of the matter, and it was a simple "indicting a ham sandwich is a myth". There's plenty of times where a grand jury doesn't indict as a miscarriage of justice. I agree, "Hey What About This Other Thing" is fun but.. back to Watson. On individual cases, sure, "it's possible" that they get/do the wrong thing. But.. when you consider 1000 cases each presented before a grand jury, that grand jury will get the correct outcome 999 times out of that 1000. They're looking at all the evidence! And to clarify.. I'd define "correct" as "What the evidence if it's true Does Actually lead to" .. so if they don't indict because evidence is sus, that's a correct outcome -- or if they do indict when evidence fits, that's correct. If an indict happens when evidence is lacking, that's a fail; also if no indictment when evidence is present, that's a fail. Speaking of that evidence [this could be the subject for another thread if anyone cared] you would see perjury/false accusations and official misconduct [Concealing evidence that casts doubt on the defendant’s guilt, police officers threatening witnesses, forensic analysts faking test results, and prosecutors presenting false testimony] as a greater percentage of the same 1000 cases [going through the entire process from crime to jail sentence start] than the number the grand jury gets something incorrect. [note: Only has to be 2/1000 to be more than the grand jury gets wrong, but any is too much] Or, for fun, look at it more cynically: They had their chance to do all the evidence-tampering they wanted before the case got to the grand juries and still didn't get a indictment which would have been a political positive for that person in that texas jurisdiction! And the thing which really should hammer the point about the ridiculousness of the actual case vs Watson home.. If this case was such a slam-dunk, they wouldn't be going 0-2 in front of grand juries. They went through the entire hassle of seating a second grand jury and missed the dunk! It simply doesn't happen that you roll dice and get two one-in-1000 events each happening entirely independently.. on the same case! Did nobody explain why Watson's accusers chose not to go through a preliminary hearing, the other option instead of a grand jury? We may never know, but my suspicion is that they didn't want to have all the evidence excluded by Watson's lawyers --- Texas jurisdictions are all different, sure, but getting all the evidence thrown out because the prelim gives defense lawyers a chance to contest the prosecution evidence would have looked a heckuva lot worse.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 I don't know about anyone else, but I am looking forward to many more years of reading the 'The Morality of Deshaun Watson" diatribe here on The Browns Board! So far, it has been riveting! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 I think a lot of folks agree with this writer: https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/08/18/deshaun-watson-browns-look-worse-than-ever Deshaun Watson and the Browns Look Worse Than Ever The team has forfeited its right to take moral stands down the road, and shouldn’t count on its QB conducting himself with basic human decency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: I don't know about anyone else, but I am looking forward to many more years of reading the 'The Morality of Deshaun Watson" diatribe here on The Browns Board! So far, it has been riveting! FIFY! 🤠 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, TexasAg1969 said: FIFY! 🤠 The irony presented by the staunch supporters of a certain other morally-bankrupt individual is the cherry on the proverbial top of this shit sundae produced by the Browns! Good times had by all, TexAg! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 This is your QB... He's a flat out LIAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, nickers said: This is your QB... He's a flat out LIAR! Instead of "face of the franchise" we have "faces of the haslams" instead. They should sell the team. bout time the Browns have a good owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nickers Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Go suck his cock... You know you want to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, nickers said: Go suck his cock... You know you want to... Damn Nickers, you a strange one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 5:24 PM, hoorta said: Out of curiosity, I did check and there are Watson jerseys for sale at the NFL Shop. I suspect they're not a big seller. You can get Mayfield jerseys 1\2 off though. That's why I quit buying jerseys with a player's name on it, I have a Tim Couch jersey gathering dust in the basement. I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey. I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years. I bought a Jim Brown jersey. I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ballpeen said: I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey. I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years. I bought a Jim Brown jersey. I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd. You can borrow my #2 best party boy jersey if you like. He's reformed so cal will give us his official moral seal of approval. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/browns-face-more-uncertainty-after-nfl-appeals-deshaun-watsons-suspension-but-this-is-uncertainty-they-brought-on-themselves.html As to one of the issues the idea that he'll be expected to undergo treatment.. my faith in that kind of thing is almost nil. While I'm willing to admit that a certain range of sexual predator is probably present in some form in every male mammal I can't imagine him being able to turn off the switch or eliminate the desire through sitting around and talking to somebody about it. Think about it it's kind of like therapy to make someone stop being gay. The leopard probably isn't changing his spots. Still, even though I'm sure it's been tried but the ludovico technique from A Clockwork Orange probably isn't a real Medical Practice. Which means unless everybody is willing to wink and Nod and pretend he's been cured or if the bronze do a better job of concealing and off-site Recreation room for the guy than the Texans did.... It almost makes you feel sorry for the guy being stuck in a no-win position. WSS WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/browns-face-more-uncertainty-after-nfl-appeals-deshaun-watsons-suspension-but-this-is-uncertainty-they-brought-on-themselves.html As to one of the issues the idea that he'll be expected to undergo treatment.. my faith in that kind of thing is almost nil. While I'm willing to admit that a certain range of sexual predator is probably present in some form in every male mammal I can't imagine him being able to turn off the switch or eliminate the desire through sitting around and talking to somebody about it. Think about it it's kind of like therapy to make someone stop being gay. The leopard probably isn't changing his spots. Still, even though I'm sure it's been tried but the ludovico technique from A Clockwork Orange probably isn't a real Medical Practice. Which means unless everybody is willing to wink and Nod and pretend he's been cured or if the bronze do a better job of concealing and off-site Recreation room for the guy than the Texans did.... It almost makes you feel sorry for the guy being stuck in a no-win position. WSS WSS A good group with an excellent sponsor like in AA/NA might work.😁 💃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 8/30/2022 at 5:55 AM, ballpeen said: I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey. I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years. I bought a Jim Brown jersey. I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd. I think I still have two Tim Couch jerseys somewhere. They should be valuable as antiques one of these years. Best bet - Joe Thomas jersey, if I were to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I think I still have two Tim Couch jerseys somewhere. They should be valuable as antiques one of these years. Best bet - Joe Thomas jersey, if I were to buy one. I have a JT jersey... Might wear it at the home opener... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: A good group with an excellent sponsor like in AA/NA might work.😁 💃 Oh I do understand people have success with AA. I wouldn't imagine that members of that group would be alpha males, maybe I'm wrong. And with alcoholism I think the people that finally give themselves over to AA have realized that they are powerless to fight this urge and they realize it's detrimental to their lives. As much as it's creepy and predatory Etc wanting to f*** every chick you come within 10 ft of seems like a pretty common occurrence among males it's a public relations problem it's an image problem. Who knows? Most of us were or at least new guys like that when we're going to school. And that certainly could preclude any of us or them from jobs and which perception was key. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 1:56 PM, nickers said: This is your QB... He's a flat out LIAR! What an utterly idiotic line of questioning! "Were you attracted to any of them?" So it's okay to whip your dick out for hot chicks, and not for the fugly ones? Come to think of it, I kind of agree with that premise. Explain yourself Deshaun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 so, we went to the Canfield Fair - it is a giant of a fair. 353 acres, hundreds of thousands of visitors each year. It takes a good while to ride the tractor-driven wagons all around the fair. Great time. Talked with some veterans in a veteran's row several booths. Downside - went to a booth for a large lemonade. They were 7$ for a large. It was little ice, seemed like little sugar, and was warm. Iced it and put sugar in it when we got home, it was good. I was surprised to talk with a vendor about watson. She sold flags, had flags for every pro team, etc etc. I saw a steeler flag and joked that I was offended, I hated the steelers. She laughed and said she hears that all the time. Said I must be a browns fan- I said "yes, but I'm sick of that trade they did, can't stand it. Now I hate their front office and ownership".... She said as a woman, it is sickening, that trade, and said as a former massotherapist when she was in college - she NEVER had anything like that happen. If it had, she would have been angry and really it would have been a bad scene, she would have been telling him off.....or worse. She said browns fans deserve so much better than what the browns owners and fo did. Said he should not be allowed to play and have anyone cheering for him, if it ever does happen. Didn't expect that - but she was right. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 10 more to go (in theory). 1-0 so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Vambo said: Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/ Good for Mr.Peepee! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Vambo said: Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson. Go to meetings and say, Yes sir. Yes Mam. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Orion said: I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson. Go to meetings and say, Yes sir. Yes Mam. ? Probably like going to drug counseling or AA if you get busted for a bag of weed or a DUI. He's a distasteful and creepy human being that I do not want has the face of my team but some of this s*** is just ridiculous. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 10:05 PM, Orion said: their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson It's circular, like all the best metaphysics. You should believe he's earned the right to be respected because he decided he deserves respect! Alternatively: He's earned the right to his own respect for himself, therefore he's earned the right to be respected by everyone else! Respect is simply an act of personal will, right? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 10:05 PM, Orion said: I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson. Go to meetings and say, Yes sir. Yes Mam. ? And by lifted we're days from Game 2 so when does this all take place September ? October ? And he hasn't played a serious regular season NFL game in how many months ? This whole thing is so out of control it's ridiculous. Meanwhile the BROWNS have to beat the Jets then Steelers the following Thursday and move on in 2022. GO BROWNS just win baby......by any means necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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