Westside Steve Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 https://www.aol.com/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-223654665-114742100.html The new party, called Forward, will be co-chaired by former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang and former GOP Gov. Christine Todd Whitman of New Jer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 yang? whitman? a third party that stands for nothing at all? right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Regardless of whether I agree with their platform (though I think I might agree with a good amount of it), I think this is a positive for the country and want them to succeed. I do feel the fringe right stands to cause more damage to the country than the fringe left though. If this splits votes to make it easier for that fringe right to get into power that would definitely not be good. Overall though, the emergence of a third party would be a positive overall so I'm rooting for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 $$$$ of course. Send money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, hammertime said: $$$$ of course. Send money. And what's your point? Money is power and speech. It is, unfortunately, a necessity for a political party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: And what's your point? Money is power and speech. It is, unfortunately, a necessity for a political party. Geez, thanks for the words of wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Regardless of whether I agree with their platform (though I think I might agree with a good amount of it), I think this is a positive for the country and want them to succeed. I do feel the fringe right stands to cause more damage to the country than the fringe left though. If this splits votes to make it easier for that fringe right to get into power that would definitely not be good. Overall though, the emergence of a third party would be a positive overall so I'm rooting for it. do you live in an upside down world? just how did you ever learn to be opposite? economy is better now that when Pres Trump was president? our energy independence was worse than our serious energy problems NOW? our national security at the border was great under Pres Trump, it is devastated now? We were STRONG with Pres Trump - but now NK is shooting off missiles and making vile threats of war, russia and china are making vile threats of war to us.......this is better than strength through peace? Our military enlistment has plummetted to a serious low point........ almost 90% of Americans believe we are headed in the WRONG DIRECTION??????? The fbi, doj, etc are all in on being politically left openly, and you think that is better than before, when they were respected? maybe "black is light, and white is dark" to you to get attention and elitist standing in conversations? What? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: do you live in an upside down world? just how did you ever learn to be opposite? economy is better now that when Pres Trump was president? our energy independence was worse than our serious energy problems NOW? our national security at the border was great under Pres Trump, it is devastated now? We were STRONG with Pres Trump - but now NK is shooting off missiles and making vile threats of war, russia and china are making vile threats of war to us.......this is better than strength through peace? Our military enlistment has plummetted to a serious low point........ almost 90% of Americans believe we are headed in the WRONG DIRECTION??????? The fbi, doj, etc are all in on being politically left openly, and you think that is better than before, when they were respected? maybe "black is light, and white is dark" to you to get attention and elitist standing in conversations? What? Good job soldier. Go get your cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Good job soldier. Go get your cookie Good job Groomer, go get your puberty blockers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Good job soldier. Go get your cookie K u n t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Vambo said: Good job Groomer, go get your puberty blockers! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 And here I thought you were above calling posters you disagreed with pedophiles... Arguably crossing a line there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And here I thought you were above calling posters you disagreed with pedophiles... Arguably crossing a line there Most people use the term in correctly anyway what's the difference? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 As far as a third candidate my opinion is pretty much the same. It seems to me it could have the effect of guaranteeing the majority be disappointed. Depending on the situation it could work to my favor or against me same as everybody. 35% for a moderate left 25% for a hard left and 40% for a conservative leaves 60% of the mostly liberal voters holding the bag. And the conference would be just as true. For what it's worth I consider myself moderate right. And I think the hard left is a lot crazier than the hard right. I have no idea what Yang and his people believe in or care about or pretend to. Neither Republican nor Democrat checks all the boxes on my list of favorite positions . Still I don't favor adding a third party just for Optics. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Pages in category "Defunct political parties in the United States" Welcome to the club A America First Party (1943) American Labor Party American Party (1914) American Party (1924) American Party (Utah) American Republican Party (1843) American Vegetarian Party American Workers Party Anti-Administration party Anti-Masonic Party Anti-Monopoly Party Anti-Mormon Party (Illinois) B Bohemian National Alliance Boston Tea Party (political party) Bucktails C Citizens Party (United States) Conference for Progressive Labor Action Conference for Progressive Political Action Connecticut for Lieberman A Connecticut Party Constitution Party (United States, 1952) Country Party (Rhode Island) D Dixiecrat E Equal Rights Party (United States) F Facing Reality Federalist Party Free Soil Party Fusion Party G Ghadar Movement Greenback Party Greens/Green Party USA H Home Rule Party of Hawaii I Independence Party (United States) Independence Party of America Independence Party of Florida Independent Anti-Mormon Party of Oneida County Independent Party (Florida) Independent Reform Party L Labor Party (United States, 19th century) Labor Party of the United States U.S. Labor Party Law Preservation Party Liberal Party (Utah) Liberty Party (United States, 1840) Liberty Party (United States, 1932) M Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party N National Democratic Party (United States) National Democratic Party of Alabama National Equal Rights Party National Party (United States) National Republican Party National Socialist League (United States) National States' Rights Party National Union Party (United States) Natural Law Party (United States) New Alliance Party New Party (United States) Nonpartisan League Northern Democratic Party Nullifier Party O Opposition Party (Illinois) Opposition Party (Northern U.S.) Opposition Party (Southern U.S.) P People's Party (Illinois) People's Party (Indiana) People's Party (United States, 1971) Personal Choice Party R Radical Democracy Party (United States) Readjuster Party Reform Party (19th-century Wisconsin) Reform Party (Hawaii) Reform Party (Mormon) Reform Party (New Jersey) S Silver Party Silver Republican Party Socialist Party of Minnesota Socialist Party of North Dakota Southern Rights Party Straight-Out Democratic Party T Toleration Party Tyler Party U U.S. Labor Party of the District of Columbia Umoja Party Unconditional Union Party Union Labor Party (California) Union Party (United States) W Whig Party (United States) White Citizens Parties Working Men's Party (New York) Working Men's Party (Philadelphia) Workingmen's Party of Illinois 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Most people use the term in correctly anyway what's the difference? WSS Correctly or incorrectly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And here I thought you were above calling posters you disagreed with pedophiles... Arguably crossing a line there Arguably? That you may be a pedophile is plausible? lol J/K with ya Woody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: As far as a third candidate my opinion is pretty much the same. It seems to me it could have the effect of guaranteeing the majority be disappointed. Depending on the situation it could work to my favor or against me same as everybody. 35% for a moderate left 25% for a hard left and 40% for a conservative leaves 60% of the mostly liberal voters holding the bag. And the conference would be just as true. For what it's worth I consider myself moderate right. And I think the hard left is a lot crazier than the hard right. I have no idea what Yang and his people believe in or care about or pretend to. Neither Republican nor Democrat checks all the boxes on my list of favorite positions . Still I don't favor adding a third party just for Optics. WSS What do you mean by "optics"? Honestly wondering Also, you really think the hard left is crazier than the hard right? (Even if you didn't include "hard right" in your intial % breakdown). One of those two groups has a whole damn conspiracy movement the included a group waiting in Texas for weeks for JFK to return. One of those groups rioted and stormed the Capitol. I know the counter will be BLM riots... but one of those is much more politically aligned/affiliated than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Correctly or incorrectly? Sorry, incorrectly. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside Steve said: Sorry, incorrectly. WSS Alright that makes more sense. And yes, you're correct, it is used incorrectly. For as much as the right wants to complain about the left calling them racists incorrectly, you've got the right calling anyone they disagree with groomers (among other things). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Also, you really think the hard left is crazier than the hard right? (Even if you didn't include "hard right" in your intial % breakdown). One of those two groups has a whole damn conspiracy movement the included a group waiting in Texas for weeks for JFK to return. One of those groups rioted and stormed the Capitol. I know the counter will be BLM riots... but one of those is much more politically aligned/affiliated than the other. And the hard left can’t define what a woman is, and think a man can get pregnant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: Hey are least that's admitting it was a riot. That's a step forward... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Hey are least that's admitting it was a riot. That's a step forward... How the fuck did a conversation about a third party turn into this bullshit? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: How the fuck did a conversation about a third party turn into this bullshit? WSS I'll give you a guess... Though we won't agree on the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 @Westside Steve But overall I think a third party is a good idea. A dilution of power in government is also, hopefully, a dilution of corruption. Maybe a better chance to have parties aligned with what people actually want. That original article also cited a stat that a heavy majority of people want a third party. That's a good sign. I think people will be afraid to vote for them though if they think it'll help the other party. Say you hate the Rep platform about you're indifferent to the Dem platform. This party comes along and you love it. Normally you vote Dem to just avoid the Rep platform. Do you risk getting your least favorite outcome if it allows you to potentially get your most favorite? If it's Biden v Trump/Desantis in 2024, and this party isn't complete trash, I might vote third party again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I'll give you a guess... Though we won't agree on the answer That was a rhetorical question. My boy Vambo has a tendency to stick shit in a thread that doesn't belong. He's correct of course; it just doesn't belong in this particular thread. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: That was a rhetorical question. My boy Vambo has a tendency to stick shit in a thread that doesn't belong. He's correct of course; it just doesn't belong in this particular thread. WSS I deleted my mess...! i 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: @Westside Steve But overall I think a third party is a good idea. A dilution of power in government is also, hopefully, a dilution of corruption. Maybe a better chance to have parties aligned with what people actually want. That original article also cited a stat that a heavy majority of people want a third party. That's a good sign. I think people will be afraid to vote for them though if they think it'll help the other party. Say you hate the Rep platform about you're indifferent to the Dem platform. This party comes along and you love it. Normally you vote Dem to just avoid the Rep platform. Do you risk getting your least favorite outcome if it allows you to potentially get your most favorite? If it's Biden v Trump/Desantis in 2024, and this party isn't complete trash, I might vote third party again. Glad to hear it. I'm too lazy to look it up but I'm sure that Mickey Mouse Donald Duck etc etc get at least a few thousand votes every year. But I can't imagine anybody further left of Biden with a serious shot at getting a nomination. Unless you would just vote for a gay black woman for the hell of it. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Glad to hear it. I'm too lazy to look it up but I'm sure that Mickey Mouse Donald Duck etc etc get at least a few thousand votes every year. But I can't imagine anybody further left of Biden with a serious shot at getting a nomination. Unless you would just vote for a gay black woman for the hell of it. WSS Again with the "you" crap... And Biden isn't nearly as far left as you think or as much as right wing media wants you to believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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