Westside Steve Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 https://news.yahoo.com/joe-manchin-vote-climate-change-pledges-clean-energy-184521057.html So we may fall short of being able to flush billions of US taxpayer dollars down the European toilet? Good. Let's hope so. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://news.yahoo.com/joe-manchin-vote-climate-change-pledges-clean-energy-184521057.html So we may fall short of being able to flush billions of US taxpayer dollars down the European toilet? Good. Let's hope so. WSS Good. I hope Manchin sticks to his guns. Flushing billions down the European toiled when much debate exists on whether or not its even possible to keep global temperature under 1.5C is mind boggling. The earth will continue to warm for thousands of years even if all emissions on the planet would stop today. Actually, it's not mind boggling. We all know the true motives. Can Global Warming Stay Below 1.5 Degrees? Views Differ Among Climate Scientists - Future of Life Institute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 I think all of the scientists are in agreement, that by giving billions of dollars to the Europeans, it automatically cools the planet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: I think all of the scientists are in agreement, that by giving billions of dollars to the Europeans, it automatically cools the planet. 97% of them actually. But you may be right, it might be up to 100% now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Sat night - campfire in the fire pit, you betcha ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Definitely the right amount of power and representation for coal miners in west Virginia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 stoopid dems choose to spend more $$ in the midst of this colossal economic failure - record inflation and Manchin dares to say wait / what? quoting the poll watching biden - NO Fn way jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Sat night - campfire in the fire pit, you betcha ! Hope you use the coals to cook a few taters in foil!!😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Definitely the right amount of power and representation for coal miners in west Virginia.... Not much coal left here in WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 And your electric bill goes up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 I want the Tesla Plaid, but the frigging thing cost about $140,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: I want the Tesla Plaid, but the frigging thing cost about $140,000. Solutions? https://stuffanswered.com/results/?utm_campaign=cheapest-electric-car-web&imp=49605&utm_medium=paid&utm_source=google_search_network&campaign_id=17482943483&utm_term=cost of electric cars&utm_content=none&asid=136418320726&adid=603490152211&placement=kwd-1811386529&device=c&postback=EAIaIQobChMIiOO_7eD--AIVhGpvBB05uwKwEAAYBiAAEgKKm_D_BwE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOO_7eD--AIVhGpvBB05uwKwEAAYBiAAEgKKm_D_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 No solution. I want the performance.   2022 Tesla Model S Plaid First Test: 0–60 MPH in 1.98 Seconds*! (motortrend.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Browns149 said: Not much coal left here in WV That's the problem the carbon-energy folks are 100% oblivious to....  It's a damn fact... There's only so much coal... or oil in the ground, and when it's gone... It's gone. It took hundreds of millions of years to lay that stuff down, and modern man is going to burn through it in 500 or so years. Believe global warming is a myth if you like.... I sure as hell don't. Go Google European record heat wave.... Great for marginal wine climates in Germany, not so great if you don't happen to have previously not required air conditioning. Want me to start posting the warnings that Lake Meade is in danger of becoming a "Dead Pool"? This isn't old news.. 20 years ago climatologists were concerned that Nevada and others were going to suck the Colorado River dry.  Lets build megapolists (like Phoenix and Las Vegas) in the middle of a fucking desert. Not smart.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, hoorta said: That's the problem the carbon-energy folks are 100% oblivious to....  It's a damn fact... There's only so much coal... or oil in the ground, and when it's gone... It's gone. It took hundreds of millions of years to lay that stuff down, and modern man is going to burn through it in 500 or so years. Believe global warming is a myth if you like.... I sure as hell don't. Go Google European record heat wave.... Great for marginal wine climates in Germany, not so great if you don't happen to have previously not required air conditioning. Want me to start posting the warnings that Lake Meade is in danger of becoming a "Dead Pool"? This isn't old news.. 20 years ago climatologists were concerned that Nevada and others were going to suck the Colorado River dry.  Lets build megapolists (like Phoenix and Las Vegas) in the middle of a fucking desert. Not smart.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: No solution. I want the performance.   2022 Tesla Model S Plaid First Test: 0–60 MPH in 1.98 Seconds*! (motortrend.com) Fine for an old guy on an enclosed drag strip. But an old guy with that kind of acceleration would be toast on a curvy road before you could complete the sentence, "Oh, shit!!"😱🤗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Fine for an old guy on an enclosed drag strip. But an old guy with that kind of acceleration would be toast on a curvy road before you could complete the sentence, "Oh, shit!!"😱🤗 Yes, your paper skin, fragile bones, and diminished cognitive abilities would lead to disaster   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/business/wooden-car-why-not.a436634/ Wooden car: why not? (hello.....cutting down trees contributes to goober warning) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022  14 hours ago, hoorta said: That's the problem the carbon-energy folks are 100% oblivious to....  It's a damn fact... There's only so much coal... or oil in the ground, and when it's gone... It's gone. It took hundreds of millions of years to lay that stuff down, and modern man is going to burn through it in 500 or so years. Believe global warming is a myth if you like.... I sure as hell don't. Go Google European record heat wave.... Great for marginal wine climates in Germany, not so great if you don't happen to have previously not required air conditioning. Want me to start posting the warnings that Lake Meade is in danger of becoming a "Dead Pool"? This isn't old news.. 20 years ago climatologists were concerned that Nevada and others were going to suck the Colorado River dry.  Lets build megapolists (like Phoenix and Las Vegas) in the middle of a fucking desert. Not smart.   So this is a graph that should help you out. Notably, the US consumption of coal has been trending downward for quite some time (yes, even when Trump was president). This graph represents the world under various consumption scenarios. Now, notice the SSP5-8.5 & RCP8.5 lines. Those are mentioned over 40% of the time in IPCC reports compared to other scenarios and I've been hard pressed to find any media that doesn't use those same scenarios. This is probably where your core beliefs on the subject comes from. The data points from these scenarios create most of the doomsday projections that are driving leftwing policy. The problem with them is they assume the world coal consumption will rise to 6.2x our current consumption and, no joke, we will actually use liquid coal run cars in the future.  I bring this up because even if the world continues at the current rate of coal consumption it won't be a doomsday scenario for humanity and maybe you can sleep a little.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Ain't no global warming. https://apnews.com/article/lake-mead-drought-photo-gallery-abab298019a44aef0181ad79aad12ab9?user_email=c780a40b821957c690b8d305176df6c4ec80c0a431e9641419612d4c0fe6b57c&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=July 17 POW&utm_term=Morning Wire Subscribers "The reservoir is now below 30 percent of capacity. Its level has dropped 170 feet (52 meters) since reaching a high-water mark in 1983, leaving a bright white line of mineral deposits on the brown canyon walls that looms over passing motor boats as high as a 15-story building." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just stop. Enough of the sky is falling crap. Try something fun like a jet fuel drag race or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 They want to pay off student loans because students can't afford it, but now want people to go buy high priced EVs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, hammertime said: Just stop. Enough of the sky is falling crap. Try something fun like a jet fuel drag race or something. Saw the Jet Kenworth numerous times at Norwalk raceway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Ain't no global warming. https://apnews.com/article/lake-mead-drought-photo-gallery-abab298019a44aef0181ad79aad12ab9?user_email=c780a40b821957c690b8d305176df6c4ec80c0a431e9641419612d4c0fe6b57c&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=July 17 POW&utm_term=Morning Wire Subscribers "The reservoir is now below 30 percent of capacity. Its level has dropped 170 feet (52 meters) since reaching a high-water mark in 1983, leaving a bright white line of mineral deposits on the brown canyon walls that looms over passing motor boats as high as a 15-story building." So do you recall why it peaked in 1983? Unless someone is purposely trying to be dramatic 1983 should not be a reference point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Also rather than just being a stooge for the coal industry he might actually believe that flushing billions of US taxpayer dollars down the toilet to the Europeans to do with as they please might not be a solid Financial strategy. WSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Yes, your paper skin, fragile bones, and diminished cognitive abilities would lead to disaster   He's making fun of you Tex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 It's asinine we still have this "debate".  Especially when those most likely to vote to do nothing are those that won't be alive long enough to deal with the consequences (outside of the damage they've already done). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Go hide in a hole and come out in 10 years.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: It's asinine we still have this "debate".  Especially when those most likely to vote to do nothing are those that won't be alive long enough to deal with the consequences (outside of the damage they've already done). Maybe if you idiots were a little more respectful and nicer, people would be willing to work with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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