mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Just think "what if" and another quarterback was picked......all quarterback stories for years might have been drastically different. Even up to 2022.. No Mayfield picked, no BW stories, different drafts ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 The 2014 Draft all quarterbacks drafted Blake Bortles was first then WOW, what if.......right up to today ! Look at numbers 3, 4, 5. Scouting or just luck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 4:40 PM, tiamat63 said: Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary. They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy. They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets. They play in a tough division. "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use. I agree with you. I think it's a very good opportunity for him. There's some playmakers in that offense; and they drafted the Offensive Tackle they wanted at #6 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, FY56 said: Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty. Nah. He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 8:36 AM, Unsympathetic said: DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record. And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Nah. He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad. Yes. The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history -and- he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever. And we don't know exactly when. He's getting "fat and happy " as a BROWN in fact he can before too long retire as a "fat and happy " BROWN. It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone. The BROWNS may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn thing about it. Scary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Nah. He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad. Me too but I wasn't talking about Baker. "The one you love" was meant to be the Browns. Losing to Carolina is what fans perceive as teaching the organization a lesson at the expense of the team they love... for what they perceive was a major fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature? That scares the football 🏈 size crap out of me. An emotional psyco soon to be the Cleveland Browns starting quarterback who before too many years can just fade away. He has NO incentive to do anything. Maybe his character as a football player and person will carry him on to victory..................we hope. GO BROWNS ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Yes. The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history -and- he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever. And we don't know exactly when. He's getting "fat and happy " as a BROWN in fact he can before too long retire as a "fat and happy " BROWN. It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone. The BROWNS may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn thing about it. Scary. That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, FY56 said: That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!! May it be applied to all of us when it comes to. "going for bust" in picking and investing a quarterback and the Cleveland Browns future. Big gamble and hopefully good results......we'll find out pretty soon. Suspension ? How long ? W/L on the field ? It's going to get quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, D Bone said: I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry. It would have been an interesting offseason if the Browns would have traded for Russell Wilson instead of Deshaun Watson. \ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature? He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns. He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns. He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for. Baker never said he would hold out. Matter of fact he left the door open even though I can't imagine why. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Baker never said he would hold out. Matter of fact you left the door open even though I can't imagine why. WSS I left what door open? (Or did you mean to write "Matter of fact he left the door..."?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I left what door open? (Or did you mean to write "Matter of fact he left the door..."?) typo "he" He said the team would have to reach out to him which of course they weren't going to. Rightly so if they felt the way they did. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: typo "he" He said the team would have to reach out to him which of course they weren't going to. Rightly so if they felt the way they did. WSS Not oven door ? Sorry I can't miss a softball lob. Not LOB. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: It would have been an interesting offseason if the Browns would have traded for Russell Wilson instead of Deshaun Watson. \ Yep, being a Broncos fan too, I want to see what he does there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why... OBJ??....who gives a crap about that whiney ass prima dona? He never wanted to come here, and tried every angle to get out. He sure as Hell was no top notch receiver here. I could make a video of easy throws that he just dropped that would be longer than the one he produced. Why would Mayfield continue to throw him the ball, when he drops everything he touches? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, lodilobo said: Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why... OBJ??....who gives a crap about that whiney ass prima dona? He never wanted to come here, and tried every angle to get out. He sure as Hell was no top notch receiver here. I could make a video of easy throws that he just dropped that would be longer than the one he produced. Why would Mayfield continue to throw him the ball, when he drops everything he touches? Probably a couple reasons for not naming names, first of all if you rat out your Source he's probably not going to talk to you ever again. Number two there's nothing else to talk about during this time of the year so they make shit up and call it a rumor. Rumors mock drafts speculation predictions draft grades analysis yada yada yada just something for people to read when there's no real news. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, lodilobo said: Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why. A couple of months ago I saw a couple of Browns players being interviewed (forget who they were) but each of them said what a good team mate OBJ was. But they also said that Baker was a good team mate too....it's that Baker and OBJ just did not work, for whatever reason. But lets face it, Baker is/was kind of a cocky guy....and he says stuff. So I'm sure there's probably a couple of guys that think he's less than perfect. - We know what Duke Johnson thinks of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Yep, being a Broncos fan too, I want to see what he does there. The conflict inside you must be like Luke vs Darth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, lodilobo said: Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes? Because they don't have any names or quotes. Tony Grossi wanted to be the 1st media squid to announce Baker was going to fail as soon as he was drafted. Then Baker set the Rookie record with 27 TD passes despite only starting 13 games for a team coming off 0-16 football. And guess how many wins Cleveland had when Baker appeared in his 1st game with a 14 point deficit a few minutes before half? They were 0-1-1 coming off that 0-16 football coming off that 1-15 football. Why people want to ACT like Baker doesn't have it within 1 calendar year of being the starter of an 11-5 playoff team that won a playoff game scoring 48 points ON and AT Pittsburgh. Throwing 26 TD passes to only 8 INTS after what this franchise went through the 2 years before Baker came here has me wondering why everyone thinks if we just replace Baker we're all set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canton Dawg Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns. He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for. Just think of the possibility of DW wanting to “sit out” on the Browns with that huge contract. He’s done it once, so it’s not out of the realm for him to do it again. Regardless of who the player is, if you’re under contract and you don’t play…you shouldn’t get paid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 10:42 AM, calfoxwc said: eh....injury. Playing while injured. Surgery. Meanwhile, the browns dumped Landry, who wanted to stay with the Browns - and drafted wr, and signed a star deep threat, Cooper. https://www.audacy.com › 923thefan › sports › cleveland-browns › doug-dieken-on-how-browns-are-out-of-sync Doug Dieken on how Browns are out of sync - Audacy Nov 4, 2021Doug Dieken explains the issues with the Browns offense including protection, getting open, etc… How Baker's effort of cutting down his turnovers has affected his passing? How to defend Bengals' offense. ... Doug Dieken: Browns are out of sync; offense has underachieved and defense has been inconsistent Listen to the podcast below I have thought about the injury deal. My feeling is Baker had some really good games while "injured", so why did the injurt not bother him in those games? Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 14 hours ago, D Bone said: The conflict inside you must be like Luke vs Darth. LOL! No conflict at all. I lived in Greeley for 3 years way back when the Broncos used it as their pre-season training camp which was open to the public. My nephew has 6 sets of season tickets, 4 which he sells at profits high enough to make the other two free. Easy to be a fan when Von was there. But he ain't and Garrett is a Browns player for life it appears, so no problem siding with the Browns when they play each other. And not a big disappointing loss if the Broncos win unless the Browns have a great shot at the playoffs at that point. I'm a Browncos fan!😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 hours ago, ballpeen said: I have thought about the injury deal. My feeling is Baker had some really good games while "injured", so why did the injurt not bother him in those games? Just saying well, football is a game of matchups. Let's say, sometimes the weak wr group could get open vs one team's secondary, sometimes they couldn't get open much at all. Maybe....some teams don't have great pass rushers and a terrific secondary, with fast lb's who can also cover short range.... maybe....sometimes Stephanski's stupid playcalling screwed up the browns' chances, sometimes didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Baker has never been "average" - ignoring his accomplishments and what he meant to the browns - just is bs. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/baker-mayfield-by-the-numbers-browns-quarterback-on-pace-to-match-impressive-peyton-manning-dan-marino-marks/ Baker Mayfield by the numbers: Browns quarterback on pace to match impressive Peyton Manning, Dan Marino marks Mayfield is chasing history matched only by Manning as he enters his fourth season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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