calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 so, it's another liberal lie. liberals love pollution. of electric cars? children's minds? our air? national forests? liberals never solve problems - they make them worse. Everything they do is for personal power, power in gov, greed..... https://www.theblaze.com/news/electric-vehicles-tire-emissions-study New study finds EVs still cause massive amounts of climate-harming emissions — from tires News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 not only that...biden is being protected desperately - from facts he can't understand. https://www.theblaze.com/news/doocy-biden-push-electric-vehicles Press sec abruptly ends questioning when Fox News reporter brings facts on electric vehicles: 'All right. We're done' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 and here is a very good read - https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2022/06/23/to-no-ones-surprise-a-gas-powered-road-trip-bests-one-in-an-electric-vehicle-n582929 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 Are you saying man made global warming is true now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Browns149 said: Are you saying man made global warming is true now? no, no. It's just that the whole idea of electric cars is bogus, and the left that favors it, is deliberately being obtuse, or.... they have ulterior motives for believing stupid garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 hours ago, calfoxwc said: no, no. It's just that the whole idea of electric cars is bogus, and the left that favors it, is deliberately being obtuse, or.... they have ulterior motives for believing stupid garbage. the electric cars don’t emit emissions from an engine gas cars emit emissions from BOTH the engine AND the tires See the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Browns149 said: the electric cars don’t emit emissions from an engine gas cars emit emissions from BOTH the engine AND the tires See the difference? How will you dispose of 50,000,000 bad batteries every year or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Vambo said: How will you dispose of 50,000,000 bad batteries every year or so? Landfill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 If you could afford one I think an electric car is a great idea for most people. Even for me who regularly has to drive a couple hundred miles for a gig. I wonder, how much does the heater eat into your drive distance in the winter? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Browns149 said: Landfill That's climate friendly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 The gap in logic here from cals thread title to the actual article on the study is so obvious and yet he seems to miss it every time. Looks like Browns already pointed it out Also strange to so strongly take a political view against EVs. Talk about being brought by lobbyists and oil companies... Anything remotely related to progress and they're up in arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Browns149 said: Landfill contaminated water underground? nice for the environment....how??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: The gap in logic here from cals thread title to the actual article on the study is so obvious and yet he seems to miss it every time. Looks like Browns already pointed it out Also strange to so strongly take a political view against EVs. Talk about being brought by lobbyists and oil companies... Anything remotely related to progress and they're up in arms that is a nonsense reply. The problems with electric cars goes farther than this bit about the tires. https://www.grunge.com/423247/the-unfortunate-truth-about-electric-cars/ The Unfortunate Truth About Electric Cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: contaminated water underground? nice for the environment....how??? Landfills are contained. They don’t get into the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 Your conservative politicians have told to not like EVs. Those politicians line their pockets with oil and gas companies. You pull the party line. Nothing more. EVs are clearly the right direction to go, and they'll continue to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Your conservative politicians have told to not like EVs. Those politicians line their pockets with oil and gas companies. You pull the party line. Nothing more. EVs are clearly the right direction to go, and they'll continue to get better. A sad representation of the UM's indoctrination again 🥴 Woodsucker continues to pull the party line w/o doing his homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Browns149 said: Landfills are contained. They don’t get into the water It rains... And water seeps through... Therefore... contaminating the ground.. and whatever water stands or accumulates inside... This is a totally bad idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, nickers said: It rains... And water seeps through... Therefore... contaminating the ground.. and whatever water stands or accumulates inside... This is a totally bad idea... I go to, and deal with numerous landfills. They are some of the most regulated facilities in the world All of the water and run-off is taken care of Plus there are designated landfills for hazardous waste They won’t be getting rid of the batteries in a normal facility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Browns149 said: I go to, and deal with numerous landfills. They are some of the most regulated facilities in the world All of the water and run-off is taken care of Plus there are designated landfills for hazardous waste They won’t be getting rid of the batteries in a normal facility I would think there has to be a clever way to recycle and use the remaining acid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Axe said: A sad representation of the UM's indoctrination again 🥴 Woodsucker continues to pull the party line w/o doing his homework. If you think there was any political indoctrination going on in engineering you're a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 woodpecker - if you think you can jump to the moom, you're a fool. if you think you can lift 14,000 lbs over your head, you're a fool. see how that sounds stupid? except, I am mocking you. You make yourself look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Browns149 said: I go to, and deal with numerous landfills. They are some of the most regulated facilities in the world All of the water and run-off is taken care of Plus there are designated landfills for hazardous waste They won’t be getting rid of the batteries in a normal facility People also ask Are batteries bad for landfills? 1) Improperly disposed batteries contribute to water and air pollution. When depleted batteries are tossed into the trash, they end up in landfills where they decay and leak. As batteries corrode, their chemicals soak into soil and contaminate groundwater and surface water. Battery Recycling is Important for Environmental Health Do electric car batteries go to landfills? But eventually those batteries, along with the toxic chemicals that can leach out of them, could end up in hazardous waste landfills. There are no EV-battery recycling plants in California, and only five up and running nationwide, according to CalEPA.Jan 27, 2022 What happens when millions of electric car batteries get old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Browns149 said: Landfills are contained. They don’t get into the water no, not true. https://www.collinslaw.com › blog › how-landfills-contaminate-the-groundwater How Landfills Contaminate the Groundwater — Illinois Personal Injury ... How Landfills Contaminate the Groundwater. If you live near a landfill, this is a scenario you should be concerned about: ·The landfill began accepting waste before 1990. ·Groundwater in your area flows from the landfill in the direction of your home. ·The groundwater is your home's water supply and/or the groundwater is very shallow (50 ... https://www.epa.gov › privatewells › potential-well-water-contaminants-and-their-impacts Potential Well Water Contaminants and Their Impacts | US EPA Feb 17, 2022Heavy metals include: arsenic, antimony, cadmium, chromium, copper, lead, selenium and many more. Heavy metals can contaminate private wells through groundwater movement and surface water seepage and run-off. People that consume high levels of heavy metals risk acute and chronic toxicity, liver, kidney, and intestinal damage, anemia, and cancer. https://www.vtcng.com › thecitizenvt › news › local_news_hinesburg › closed-landfill-contaminates-nearby-water-wells › article_c67db3f2-1706-11ec-bd08-1fdc73db7708.html Closed landfill contaminates nearby water wells | Hinesburg News ... Sep 16, 2021Water sources near the closed Hinesburg landfill are contaminated and the town appears to be on the hook for some expensive workarounds in the short term and in the long term as it searches for a solution. After testing in June and July, the Vermont Department of Environmental Conservation sent the town a letter that said water from wells at a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Browns149 said: I go to, and deal with numerous landfills. They are some of the most regulated facilities in the world All of the water and run-off is taken care of Plus there are designated landfills for hazardous waste They won’t be getting rid of the batteries in a normal facility that is heartening, but as I posted, there are closed landfills that are very, very bad. and I can't imagine batteries not being just discarded along some dump roadside in a lot of distant rural/country areas around the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 I’m sure we can find some third world country to send them…maybe send them to the moon 🌚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 electric car fans love forced labor making those car's batteries. slavery. There isn't any legitimate defense of being all in on electric cars. Estimated TWICE AS MUCH "global warming" potential, uses DOUBLE the amount of energy than producing a combustion engine care. Just another imaginary utopian fiasco libs like woody glue themselves to. A great read: https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2017 › 11 › battery-batteries-electric-cars-carbon-sustainable-power-energy Producing batteries for green technology harms the environment. Here's ... Firstly, producing an electric vehicle contributes, on average, twice as much to global warming potential and uses double the amount of energy than producing a combustion engine car. This is mainly because of its battery. Battery production uses a lot of energy, from the extraction of raw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 8 hours ago, nickers said: I would think there has to be a clever way to recycle and use the remaining acid... There already is. But I’m sure someone here will search the internet and find an article that says it’s bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Browns149 said: There already is. But I’m sure someone here will search the internet and find an article that says it’s bad nice, after the fact. lol. the problem is, not everybody recycles. and the energy to recycle.... is mostly FOSSIL FUELS. https://citizensustainable.com/recycling-fossil-fuels/ Does Recycling Use Fossil Fuels? 7 Facts You Should Know (Explained) The exact amount of energy that comes from fossil fuels is hovering around 81% in the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 The size of a EV battery will make it almost impossible to just throw away. You can’t just throw it away in your garbage can. Plus it most likely would have to be replaced by a mechanic. Making them responsible for it’s disposal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Browns149 said: The size of a EV battery will make it almost impossible to just throw away. You can’t just throw it away in your garbage can. Plus it most likely would have to be replaced by a mechanic. Making them responsible for it’s disposal Just wait until you see the cost to replace that battery. Just throw the car away also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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