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MLD Woody Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Speaking of spitballing I wouldn't imagine he actually went there to hurt somebody. But carrying a gun does make one feel tough and heroic. Also it's not really a stretch to think the proper legal forces weren't going to be up to the task and are probably compromised anyway. Lest we forget this was a violent mob. WSS We do have a video of him saying he wished he has his AR so he could shoot alleged shop lifters. And it isn't his job to go fight a mob that's not even in his home state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: We do have a video of him saying he wished he has his AR so he could shoot alleged shop lifters. alleged 😁 And it isn't his job to go fight a mob that's not even in his home state. Nope. Not thate the state matters. But even though he probably made a bad choice by being there so did the hundreds of rioters bent on Mayhem. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: We do have a video of him saying he wished he has his AR so he could shoot alleged shop lifters. And it isn't his job to go fight a mob that's not even in his home state. I imagine dudes say all sorts of silly shit when trying to look tough. He was going down there to protect a car lot that wasn’t in the immediate riot. The riot came to them. If it hadn’t, Kyle would be telling his buddies about how he valiantly defended a Chevy Aveo from imminent danger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: No comment on the video then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: I imagine dudes say all sorts of silly shit when trying to look tough. He was going down there to protect a car lot that wasn’t in the immediate riot. The riot came to them. If it hadn’t, Kyle would be telling his buddies about how he valiantly defended a Chevy Aveo from imminent danger. Yeah but then how many guys actually act out on the thing they said? Let alone go drive to another state to put themselves in a position where they might get the opportunity to act out on the stupid shit they said? I agree that guys say stupid macho dipshit stuff like that all of the time. But not many go somewhere to act out on it and then even less actually do it. And again, I'm not saying we throw Rittenhouse in jail, throw away the key, and destroy his life (though I'm sure there are plenty of examples of minorities getting their lives ruined for less). If anything I hope this allows the country to reflect on the widespread access to guns and the current state of politics/dialogue in this country. I'm almost positive it won't.... but it would be nice if it did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: No comment on the video then? About the same as logic. I did look it up. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Yeah but then how many guys actually act out on the thing they said? Let alone go drive to another state to put themselves in a position where they might get the opportunity to act out on the stupid shit they said? I agree that guys say stupid macho dipshit stuff like that all of the time. But not many go somewhere to act out on it and then even less actually do it. And again, I'm not saying we throw Rittenhouse in jail, throw away the key, and destroy his life (though I'm sure there are plenty of examples of minorities getting their lives ruined for less). If anything I hope this allows the country to reflect on the widespread access to guns and the current state of politics/dialogue in this country. I'm almost positive it won't.... but it would be nice if it did What came first, the access to guns or people being this rabid about politics like it is a religion? I won’t be disarming myself because dipshits want to have the OK Corral shootout In Portland over which pro wrestler (politician) is the super de duperest bad guy. Laws can’t overcome human idiocy and political/religious fervor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: What came first, the access to guns or people being this rabid about politics like it is a religion? I won’t be disarming myself because dipshits want to have the OK Corral shootout In Portland over which pro wrestler (politician) is the super de duperest bad guy. Laws can’t overcome human idiocy and political/religious fervor. I'm sure plenty of people will continue to grasp to their guns. If any significant change is made it'll take decades. A generation growing up with school shootings every other week probably has a different view of guns than the older generation. A 17 year old has no business getting access to an AR that easily. But that's my opinion. Are large portion of our country seems to think there's nothing we can do, though there are plenty of other developed countries without this problem. As for Rittenhouse, I stand by him going a little farther than just saying vigilante fantasy shit. He acted on it. Again, I'm not sure his life should be ruined for it, but he's not without fault. The whole trial seems like a circus though, and the judge wasn't helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I'm sure plenty of people will continue to grasp to their guns. If any significant change is made it'll take decades. A generation growing up with school shootings every other week probably has a different view of guns than the older generation. A 17 year old has no business getting access to an AR that easily. But that's my opinion. Are large portion of our country seems to think there's nothing we can do, though there are plenty of other developed countries without this problem. As for Rittenhouse, I stand by him going a little farther than just saying vigilante fantasy shit. He acted on it. Again, I'm not sure his life should be ruined for it, but he's not without fault. The whole trial seems like a circus though, and the judge wasn't helping. Okay you're the judge and jury. What's your call? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Okay you're the judge and jury. What's your call? WSS I don't know enough about the law to know what options are available. But I don't think it's murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Okay you're the judge and jury. What's your call? WSS Death by firing squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 7 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And again, I'm not saying we... destroy his life Kyle already accomplished as much, regardless of the trial outcome. Anyone who willfully inserts themselves into a situation like this when they have nothing personally at stake is misguided - antifa, proud boy, this kid, all the same. For better or worse, being an idiot isn't against the law. I don't think he's committed murder, but I guess we'll see this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: Kyle already accomplished as much, regardless of the trial outcome. Anyone who willfully inserts themselves into a situation like this when they have nothing personally at stake is misguided - antifa, proud boy, this kid, all the same. For better or worse, being an idiot isn't against the law. I don't think he's committed murder, but I guess we'll see this week. Yes he's misguided of course he was 17 and If he's convicted of murder it will be because of politics. And I would say that none of the people gathered to burn Loot and riot have anything to gain but some here might disagree. Just for the record maybe you guys could point out some of the Mayhem the proud boys have been responsible for? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I'm sure plenty of people will continue to grasp to their guns. If any significant change is made it'll take decades. A generation growing up with school shootings every other week probably has a different view of guns than the older generation. A 17 year old has no business getting access to an AR that easily. But that's my opinion. Are large portion of our country seems to think there's nothing we can do, though there are plenty of other developed countries without this problem. As for Rittenhouse, I stand by him going a little farther than just saying vigilante fantasy shit. He acted on it. Again, I'm not sure his life should be ruined for it, but he's not without fault. The whole trial seems like a circus though, and the judge wasn't helping. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: Kyle already accomplished as much, regardless of the trial outcome. Anyone who willfully inserts themselves into a situation like this when they have nothing personally at stake is misguided - antifa, proud boy, this kid, all the same. For better or worse, being an idiot isn't against the law. I don't think he's committed murder, but I guess we'll see this week. That's true. Being at the center of this is going to have an impact no matter what. At least part of America is labeling him a hero, so he's got that silver lining. I was referring more to jail time, but you're right regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Vapor is absolutely correct. "situational awareness" is a major key. He was an IDIOT. but, that isn't against the law. As a ccw guy, you do not EVER deliberately go into a bad situation where you may have to defend yourself. Wrong, or absolutely responsible and correct.... your life will never be the same. Especially these days. It's about defending yourself, and you family and friends when unforeseen lethal trouble happens to stare you in the face. The idea is to DEFEND you and other's LIVES. The best way to do that, is stay safe as you can, and don't ignore risky situations. btw...... Is the felon with a gun being prosecuted or what? I suspect that Rittenhouse is being made a false example of, over leftwing political propaganda. but AGAIN, the dishonesty has blown up in their faces. New FBI Infrared Video Blows Kyle Rittenhouse Prosecutor's ... https://www.redvoicemedia.com › 2021 › 11 › new-fbi-infrared-video-blows-kyle-rittenhouse-prosecutors-case-into-a-million-pieces But as the video featured below, shows - Rittenhouse wasn't pointing his weapon, but his hand. What is most important about the video above is not only does it show from the perspective of witnesses, but it also shows the angle that the FBI infrared camera had. From the perspective of the FBI camera, it shows that the object being pointed ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: He was an IDIOT. but, that isn't against the law. If that were the case you'd be serving two life sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Okay you're the judge and jury. What's your call? WSS It doesn't matter. He'll be popping a champagne bottle if the kid is found guilty of murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: At least part of America is labeling him a hero, so he's got that silver lining. I'm sure he'll consider that quite the consolation over his PTSD and being labelled as a white supremacist by another part of America. He's going to have to go off the grid to live a normal life. 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Just for the record maybe you guys could point out some of the Mayhem the proud boys have been responsible for? Have you watched any of the coverage of protests prior to them turning into riots over the last 5 years. It's been highlight reel after highlight reel of groups of left-wing and right-wing idiots beating the shit out of each other. lol the Ric Flair dude in the back throwing haymakers showed up on 4chan later that day bragging about how he wore a burgundy sweater to blend in with antifa to better get them with a sucker punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, MLD Woody said: A 17 year old has no business getting access to an AR that easily. But that's my opinion. Are large portion of our country seems to think there's nothing we can do, though there are plenty of other developed countries without this problem. The problem is the looting, rioting, arson committing leftists. No looting, rioting, arson committing leftists, no 17 yr. old vigilantes with guns. As for Rittenhouse, I stand by him going a little farther than just saying vigilante fantasy shit. He acted on it. Again, I'm not sure his life should be ruined for it, but he's not without fault. The whole trial seems like a circus though, and the judge wasn't helping. You're not sure? LOL Explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gorka Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, VaporTrail said: I'm sure he'll consider that quite the consolation over his PTSD and being labelled as a white supremacist by another part of America. He's going to have to go off the grid to live a normal life. Have you watched any of the coverage of protests prior to them turning into riots over the last 5 years. It's been highlight reel after highlight reel of groups of left-wing and right-wing idiots beating the shit out of each other. lol the Ric Flair dude in the back throwing haymakers showed up on 4chan later that day bragging about how he wore a burgundy sweater to blend in with antifa to better get them with a sucker punch. Haha. Mr. Fair and Balanced back at it again. Equating The Proud Boys with Antifa using two incidents is laughable. Never heard of the Boys until Antifa was well into their dangerous activities. Here’s a look back through the Legal Insurrection archives at the protest violence and other dangerous activities that occurred during an over six-month period of time here in America in 2020 courtesy of the left-wing extremists in Antifa and BLM: Go ahead, match each one with an example of a Proud Boys insurrection. MAY –MSNBC Reporter Describes Minneapolis “Protest” as “Not, Generally Speaking, Unruly” as He Stands in Front of Burning Building JUNE –Mob Throws Statue of Hans Christian Heg, Abolitionist, Into Lake Monona –It’s Going Down: Seattle Surrenders a Police Station and Four City Blocks to Antifa –America Under Attack: Riots and Looting Nationwide JULY –Portland Rioters Set Fire to Bloody Pig’s Head With Cop’s Hat on U.S. Flag –Man Violently Attacked in Portland: “I was stabbed for being a conservative journalist” –Media, Portland Mayor Mischaracterize Assault on Federal Courthouse as “Protests” AUGUST –Sen. Rand Paul and others attacked by DC mobs after leaving Trump speech –Kenosha, WI Under Siege By Antifa/BLM Rioters –Riot First, Asks Questions Later: Minneapolis Looting Sparked By False Report Of Police Shooting –DC BLM Mob Harasses White Diners, Demanding They Raise Fists In Solidarity –Portland Rioters Wheel Guillotine Through Suburbs, Execute American Flag –Report: Seattle Rioters Tried to Burn Police Officers Alive By Sealing Precinct Door Shut –Portland: BLM Mob Causes Man to Crash, Beats Him Unconscious –‘Peaceful Protesters’ in Portland Set Fire to County Government Building –Chicago Looters Attack Ronald McDonald House –Over 100 People Arrested in Chicago Overnight Amid Rampant Rioting and Looting SEPTEMBER –Louisville, Other Cities Struck by Violence, Riots for Second Night After Breonna Taylor Decision –BLM Protesters Target Georgetown CVS Because Employees Called Police on Shoplifters –Two Los Angeles County Deputies Shot; BLM Chants “We Hope They Die” Outside Hospital –Black Lives Matter Rioters Ransack Rochester, NY –‘Peaceful Protests’ Push St. Louis, Portland Mayors Out of Their Homes OCTOBER –National Guard Deployed to Philadelphia After Violence, Looting Explodes for the Second Night –Pro-Trump Rally Attacked In Liberal Ithaca (NY) –BLM Rioters Damage Homes, Stores in Wisconsin After DA Won’t Charge Cop in Fatal Shooting NOVEMBER pic.twitter.com/UhGKHuwY4B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gorka said: Equating The Proud Boys with Antifa using two incidents is laughable. I think you need to go back and reread what I wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Neo said: If that were the case you'd be serving two life sentences. so stupid a retort it isn't worth reading a second time....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, VaporTrail said: I'm sure he'll consider that quite the consolation over his PTSD and being labelled as a white supremacist by another part of America. He's going to have to go off the grid to live a normal life. I'm not sure how sorry I feel for him, honestly. I do feel sorry a little bit because he was only 17. But I think that's also old enough to know better. Now he probably didn't want to go there and shoot someone (multiple someones) but he also could have just not gone. But I get how just getting attacked like that would be traumatizing... ... Idk. I don't think he's some racist white devil that needs to die but I don't think he's some poor innocent Christian white kid that just wanted to clean graffiti. I'm somewgere in the middle. But again, I haven't followed the case super closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, VaporTrail said: I'm sure he'll consider that quite the consolation over his PTSD and being labelled as a white supremacist by another part of America. He's going to have to go off the grid to live a normal life. Have you watched any of the coverage of protests prior to them turning into riots over the last 5 years. It's been highlight reel after highlight reel of groups of left-wing and right-wing idiots beating the shit out of each other. lol the Ric Flair dude in the back throwing haymakers showed up on 4chan later that day bragging about how he wore a burgundy sweater to blend in with antifa to better get them with a sucker punch. Sorry bud that's some pretty weak tea a comparison with real riots. You can probably find worse than that outside of any number of nightclubs on a Saturday night. We tend to create Saints and demons out of every new story these days. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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