MLD Woody Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: No it's your same ploy of using "every" or "all". Nothing is every reason or all reasons for anything. It's just tiresome bud. Like not every problem in America is completely Joe Biden's fault. Or Trump's. Or those evil conservatives or Republicans or whoever. And even though you don't understand the difference between conservatism and liberalism everybody is for regulation and against regulation at sometime. WSS One group champions small government and the free market. The group that wants the govt to stay out of their business. That just falls to the wayside immediately when challenged even slightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, bigbambo said: You call people stupid, idiots and morons................let me try to fill in the blank gap.......in inches, what is the distance between your ears so I know what I'm dealing with? I think you are silly and I'm surely not the first to tell you.......... And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Not sure what I'm expecting. You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Not sure what I'm expecting. You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. this: coming from a birdbrain that has nearly? NEVER raised the level of anything on this forum. You apparently haven't still figured out what gender you are. You're a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Not sure what I'm expecting. You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. There wasn't any discourse. Just the usual crap from you Woody. While you're at it this would be a good time for you to exercise your complete lack of self-awareness and bitching about something being black and white. Us and Them. And in case you're still struggling to understand if OSHA is involved then it's taken out of the hands of the public and the free market in the first place. Even as your cult leader Joe is trying to make unconstitutional demands. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbambo Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Geez louise, maintaining what you already controlled is not "increasing" government...do you get that? Joe has expanded the federal government's reach and many are against it. Hopefully this will be the last time you stand on a wet paper rung Not sure what I'm expecting more mental delusion... You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. Thank you! I appreciate the warm welcome and compliments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 https://www.egypttales.com/2021/10/news-republicans-move-to-tighten-grip.html HomeReports News: Republicans move to tighten grip on Texas after redistricting map approved 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 15 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Not sure what I'm expecting. You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Dumpster fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 16 hours ago, MLD Woody said: And you still don't comment on the subject at hand. But this is my fault too. Not sure what I'm expecting. You've managed to somehow lower the level of discourse here over the last month, which is impressive. HYPOCRITE-IN-CHIEF? Biden shows brazen disregard for mask mandate while out for high-end dinner in DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 17 hours ago, MLD Woody said: One group champions small government and the free market. The group that wants the govt to stay out of their business. That just falls to the wayside immediately when challenged even slightly The reason we are wasting our time on this thread is that you and many others don't understand what conservative or liberal really means. Or big government or small government. You just react to them like the dog reacts to a loud noise. (and you don't realize how silly you are when you cry about 'us versus them' or 'black-and-white' issues) So let me ask you concerning your question is striking down a bigger government mandate, restriction or curtailing of freedom order big government or not? WSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 21 hours ago, MLD Woody said: You've spectacularly missing the point. to me the OP Spectacularly failed because you reverse engineer'd the stoopid premise about BIG govt and point your fingers at Texas you shouldve stuck with our desire to have smaller govt - and come to the realization that the staus quo is a HUGE problem. making comparisons between biden and trump at this point is beyond your so called unvested political party interest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: The reason we are wasting our time on this thread is that you and many others don't understand what conservative or liberal really means. Or big government or small government. You just react to them like the dog reacts to a loud noise. (and you don't realize how silly you are when you cry about 'us versus them' or 'black-and-white' issues) So let me ask you concerning your question is striking down a bigger government mandate, restriction or curtailing of freedom order big government or not? WSS Striking down a mandate would be allowing private businesses to do what they see fit. Mandate a vaccine or don't. This is explicitly saying they CAN'T require their employees to get vaccinated. See the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 11:26 PM, MLD Woody said: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/11/texas-greg-abbott-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/ Just kidding. It's apparently ok for the government to decide what private companies can and can't do in regards to vaccines. But we all know conversative "ideals" like small government only apply in political expedient situations (see: abortion) So for those so nose deep in the right wing's ass you think any moderate is a man we of the communist party.... Defend this anti mandate mandate and tell me how it isn't big government ‘DON’T TREAD ON ME’ Seattle police officers hang flag from cars in defiance of vaccine mandate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: Striking down a mandate would be allowing private businesses to do what they see fit. Mandate a vaccine or don't. This is explicitly saying they CAN'T require their employees to get vaccinated. See the difference? No it's allowing the workers to make the choice. A private business probably can't require their employees to go to church either. WSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: No it's allowing the workers to make the choice. A private business probably can't require their employees to go to church either. WSS The workers would have the choice to work somewhere else, no? Free Market. Free market would allow businesses to opt out of OSHA requirements. Unless you think those businesses prefer that their workers quit. Which I doubt. Of course if they did let them go out of business. I wouldn't give them any state or federal funds when they cry about it. If there's demand for a workplace where shots aren't required than those employers should have no trouble finding people. And again, religion falls into a protected class. That's not up for discussion or debate here. 1 Nor are the powers of the duly elected governors of states. Right? 2 Or just claim to be some religion that forbids vaccinations. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: The workers would have the choice to work somewhere else, no? Free Market. Free market would allow businesses to opt out of OSHA requirements. Unless you think those businesses prefer that their workers quit. Which I doubt. Of course if they did let them go out of business. I wouldn't give them any state or federal funds when they cry about it. If there's demand for a workplace where shots aren't required than those employers should have no trouble finding people. And again, religion falls into a protected class. That's not up for discussion or debate here. 1 Nor are the powers of the duly elected governors of states. Right? 2 Or just claim to be some religion that forbids vaccinations. WSS So you'd be OK if your company said if you don't vote for Trump you're fired? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: The workers would have the choice to work somewhere else, no? Free Market. Free market would allow businesses to opt out of OSHA requirements. Unless you think those businesses prefer that their workers quit. Which I doubt. Of course if they did let them go out of business. I wouldn't give them any state or federal funds when they cry about it. If there's demand for a workplace where shots aren't required than those employers should have no trouble finding people. And again, religion falls into a protected class. That's not up for discussion or debate here. 1 Nor are the powers of the duly elected governors of states. Right? 2 Or just claim to be some religion that forbids vaccinations. WSS MASKING THE PROBLEM White House brushes off Biden's blatant disregard for DC mask mandate in posh restaurant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 PERSONAL FOUL Dem mayor once again caught breaking her own COVID mandate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 @Westside Steve Steve, you edited my post. You didn't reply... You're missing the point and we're going in circles. Republicans champion small government and less regulations. I'm not against OSHA and regulations. I'm not fighting that. I'm not even saying that the Texas republican governor doesn't have the ability to do what he did. The point is the Republican government of Texas is creating regulations for companies. Large government. That's the point. It's turning their back on what they say they stand for in order to push their current political agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: @Westside Steve Steve, you edited my post. You didn't reply... You're missing the point and we're going in circles. Republicans champion small government and less regulations. I'm not against OSHA and regulations. I'm not fighting that. I'm not even saying that the Texas republican governor doesn't have the ability to do what he did. The point is the Republican government of Texas is creating regulations for companies. Large government. That's the point. It's turning their back on what they say they stand for in order to push their stop Democrats current political agenda. FIFY 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: @Westside Steve Steve, you edited my post. You didn't reply... Sorry Woody. Hopefully I didn't actually delete anything. You're missing the point and we're going in circles. Republicans champion small government and less regulations. Mask and vaccine mandates are not regulations? I'm not against OSHA and regulations. I'm not particularly in lockstep with anything that any Republican or anybody else you dislike says they are for. I'm not really against OSHA I think it's has its place. I do not necessarily support the idea that the federal government for whatever reason they've chosen has the word OSHA in this case to override rational practices of businesses. I do not, as some do, think that the covid problem is powerful enough to impose these kind of restrictions on freedom. And let's be honest you would most certainly be against regulations that you didn't like personally. I'm not fighting that. I'm not even saying that the Texas republican governor doesn't have the ability to do what he did. The point is the Republican government of Texas is creating regulations for companies. Large government. That's the point. It's turning their back on what they say they stand for in order to push their current political agenda. So you don't believe that OSHA which is an arm of the government is push the president his handlers or the Democrats political agenda? (similar to The way some politicians use the IRS to mess with their opponents) Please. Anyway if you're big gotcha is that you think smaller government means anarchy I think it's a silly thing to say. You do too. There will always and should always be regulations that can override injustice and I think this is one. But since this regulation overrides another even larger regulation I think the best you can hope for with your gacha game is that it's a wash. But yes we're going in circles and I don't really care about your gacha game. Wss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Vambo said: So you'd be OK if your company said if you don't vote for Trump you're fired? waiting for a first time genuine answer from bird girl. it could be a long wait. His beakness is his weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbambo Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 16 hours ago, MLD Woody said: @Westside Steve Steve, you edited my post. You didn't reply... You're missing the point and we're going in circles. Republicans champion small government and less regulations. I'm not against OSHA and regulations. I'm not fighting that. I'm not even saying that the Texas republican governor doesn't have the ability to do what he did. The point is the Republican government of Texas is creating regulations for companies. Large government. That's the point. It's turning their back on what they say they stand for in order to push their current political agenda. You can alway tell that you have a good point by the number of times you need to clarify it...lol. your point is muddier than Pete's noodle on a Saturday night So you think a republican that creates a regulation that protect one's freedoms from big government control is creating big government? That's what wanting smaller government is all about.............did you get that "Woody" nickname on the similarity of density? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, bigbambo said: You can alway tell that you have a good point by the number of times you need to clarify it...lol. your point is muddier than Pete's noodle on a Saturday night So you think a republican that creates a regulation that protect one's freedoms from big government control is creating big government? That's what wanting smaller government is all about.............did you get that "Woody" nickname on the similarity of density? What if you're a small business owner that wants to impose a vaccine mandate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Bottom line it doesn't really matter. Woodpecker thinks he has a gotcha by using semantics. So you win woodpecker. Anybody that doesn't thinks it's a good thing for America to exclude thousands of police EMS or medical professionals loves big government. Congratulations Woodrow. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: What if you're a small business owner that wants to impose a vaccine mandate? what if a corrupt government headed by a senile corrupt president allowed tens of thousands of illegals to come across our border, then he ships them all over our country, without ANY VACCINATIONS? https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/blog/current-constitutional-issues-related-to-vaccine-mandates Current constitutional issues related to vaccine mandates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Also along those lines we should congratulate the mayor of Baltimore for legalizing shoplifting assault prostitution and drug sales. Smaller government! WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbambo Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: What if you're a small business owner that wants to impose a vaccine mandate? I am a small business owner and what do you find difficult? people that are vaxxed have all the same infection and transmission properties as the unvaxxed.....did you see deaths are rising in the double vaxxed? Maybe they need to be drained or lose their job.... Did you see what happened to that loudmouth DJ Collin Powell ......Who needs to be cut from the herd and why? If you are open for business or passing an unvaxxed mailman or Senator on the sidewalk...you are at risk. It's great to see all this hysteria but mayors sending old covid positive patients into nursing homes killing 10's of thousands is no big deal...but grab an ass, now that's unacceptable.. Maybe we should develop permanent colored DNA gloves and mandate everyone must wear them...we may stop this ass grabbin stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, bigbambo said: I am a small business owner and what do you find difficult? people that are vaxxed have all the same infection and transmission properties as the unvaxxed.....did you see deaths are rising in the double vaxxed? Maybe they need to be drained or lose their job.... Did you see what happened to that loudmouth DJ Collin Powell ......Who needs to be cut from the herd and why? If you are open for business or passing an unvaxxed mailman or Senator on the sidewalk...you are at risk. It's great to see all this hysteria but mayors sending old covid positive patients into nursing homes killing 10's of thousands is no big deal...but grab an ass, now that's unacceptable.. Maybe we should develop permanent colored DNA gloves and mandate everyone must wear them...we may stop this ass grabbin stuff None of that answered my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbambo Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: None of that answered my question I'm too tired to spell everything out for you.......just realize, I agree with all you have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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