MLD Woody Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Do you think Biden won the election only as a result of voter fraud. Either "deep state" shenanigans, voting machine hacking, or mass individual fraud. Yes or no This still gets brought up a lot on here, so I figured I'd ask as a whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Do you think Biden won the election only as a result of voter fraud. Either "deep state" shenanigans, voting machine hacking, or mass individual fraud. Yes or no This still gets brought up a lot on here, so I figured I'd ask as a whole Simple answer within the parameters of your question: no. Okay? Of course when you add bulshit clarifiers like only or solely or every or anything like that oh, but that's typical Woody. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Simple answer within the parameters of your question: no. Okay? Of course when you add bulshit clarifiers like only or solely or every or anything like that oh, but that's typical Woody. WSS Awe... Keep trying. It either caused him to win or it didn't. He either legitimately won or he didn't. You can't exist in both worlds where you appease your buddies on the far right by saying voter fraud happened while also still saying it didn't cause Biden to win so you can sound sane still. All of the conspiracy theory nonsense that's been spewed everywhere, you believe it or you don't. It isn't just that some individuals committed fraud. Because that happened, on both sides. This is whether or not there was such widespread, systemic fraud that it causes Biden to illegitimately win the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: Awe... Keep trying. It either caused him to win or it didn't. He either legitimately won or he didn't. You can't exist in both worlds where you appease your buddies on the far right by saying voter fraud happened while also still saying it didn't cause Biden to win so you can sound sane still. All of the conspiracy theory nonsense that's been spewed everywhere, you believe it or you don't. It isn't just that some individuals committed fraud. Because that happened, on both sides. This is whether or not there was such widespread, systemic fraud that it causes Biden to illegitimately win the election. LOL And Biden is being treated equally as Trump was by the MSM. And the Republicans have idiots to the level of AOC, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Pelosi and The Squad. And there are just as many Conservative college professors as there are liberal. And there is just as much violence, vandalism, and hate coming from the right as there is from the left. Stop lying to yourself Woody. The vast majority of documented voter fraud came from the left. That kind of behavior is part of who they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 No, it helped hugely in dem states' giant cities. It's one of two major reasons. The second reason is the soros etc funded asswholeness funds "owning" the msm. The msm made it cool to hate Pres Trump for NO LEGIT REASON and they ignored every great thing Pres Trump was doing. It was a personality hit job - but they get $$$$$$$$$$ to not talk about how biden was far too dimwit a candidate to be voted for. https://patriotalerts.com/2021/09/watch-joe-biden-stuns-onlookers-during-jill-bidens-speech-by-appearing-to-wander-off-aimlessly/ Watch: Joe Biden Stuns Onlookers During Jill Biden’s Speech by Appearing to Wander Off Aimlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 who funds stuff like dem city widespread voter fraud? https://neonnettle.com/news/16626-images-emerge-of-pelosi-holding-meeting-with-george-soros-and-son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 And here come the tinfoil hats... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Awe... Keep trying. It either caused him to win or it didn't. He either legitimately won or he didn't. You can't exist in both worlds where you appease your buddies on the far right by saying voter fraud happened while also still saying it didn't cause Biden to win so you can sound sane still. All of the conspiracy theory nonsense that's been spewed everywhere, you believe it or you don't. It isn't just that some individuals committed fraud. Because that happened, on both sides. This is whether or not there was such widespread, systemic fraud that it causes Biden to illegitimately win the election. 2 words. Mueller Investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Awe... Keep trying. I answered your question. Were you unable to read or understand it? That's the exact correct answer especially the way it was phrased. If you want stupid questions here is one for you: yes or no: have you ever tasted a sweeter peter than mine? It either caused him to win or it didn't. He either legitimately won or he didn't. You can't exist in both worlds where you appease your buddies on the far right by saying voter fraud happened while also still saying it didn't cause Biden to win so you can sound sane still. All of the conspiracy theory nonsense that's been spewed everywhere, you believe it or you don't. It isn't just that some individuals committed fraud. Because that happened, on both sides. This is whether or not there was such widespread, systemic fraud that it causes Biden to illegitimately win the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 No. He won because more people were tired of Donald Trump acting unprofessional in the job. Regardless of his policies, Trump would still be President if he acted in a more professional manner Sorry but that’s how it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Browns149 said: No. He won because more people were tired of Donald Trump acting unprofessional in the job. Regardless of his policies, Trump would still be President if he acted in a more professional manner Sorry but that’s how it is That's not the way it is. It was the phony response by the media to the covid vaccine. Presidents get turned over during any kind of a chaotic situation real or man-made. That's the way it is. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: That's not the way it is. It was the phony response by the media to the covid vaccine. Presidents get turned over during any kind of a chaotic situation real or man-made. That's the way it is. WSS I don’t doubt that the pandemic had something to do with it. But Trump’s personality did him way more harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, Browns149 said: I don’t doubt that the pandemic had something to do with it. But Trump’s personality did him way more harm Horseshit who was Bill Clinton or somebody said it's the economy stupid. Only idiots vote on personality oh, yes I understand there are a lot of them but... WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Clinton won 2 presidential elections on personality. Trump won 1 and lost 1 on personality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Browns149 said: Clinton won 2 presidential elections on personality. Trump won 1 and lost 1 on personality Voting on personality gets you Biden ... Afghanistan failure, Open Borders failure, $5.00 a gallon gas, $20.00 2x4's, soaring inflation, divisions, runaway crime, highest murder rates in Democrat run areas etc...the list goes on and on. But no mean tweets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Browns149 said: I don’t doubt that the pandemic had something to do with it. But Trump’s personality did him way more harm Trump fumbled the pandemic response. It absolutely had something to do with it. Not just "mean tweets". Actual poor decisions and comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 A lot of non answers still, which I expected. You either think voter fraud won him the election or it didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 No one really gives a fuck what you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 No. There were two things that cost him the election. First, was being a giant asshole throughout the pandemic. That attitude worked perfectly fine for international affairs, but he really needed a more even hand for this. All he had to was turn the issue from something partisan into something that the country needs to beat together. Instead he just polarized things further and fucked himself. Second, if he would have put out another stimulus check with his name on it 1-2 months before the election, he probably would have had it in the bag in spite of the pandemic. Congressional GOP fucked him on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Trump fumbled the pandemic response. It absolutely had something to do with it. Not just "mean tweets". Actual poor decisions and comments. As compared to what? At that time what did he have to go by? Do you think Biden's decisions are better? Even with the vaccine Trump left him, he has as many deaths as under Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, VaporTrail said: No. There were two things that cost him the election. First, was being a giant asshole throughout the pandemic. That attitude worked perfectly fine for international affairs, but he really needed a more even hand for this. All he had to was turn the issue from something partisan into something that the country needs to beat together. Instead he just polarized things further and fucked himself. Second, if he would have put out another stimulus check with his name on it 1-2 months before the election, he probably would have had it in the bag in spite of the pandemic. Congressional GOP fucked him on that one. Trump demands Congress send bill with $2,000 stimulus checks https://www.kare11.com/article/news/nation-world/covid-19-relief-bill-passed-by-congress/507-570b9bdc-5794-40e5-8579-caa228d3a6de Trump assailed the bipartisan $900 billion package in a video he tweeted out Tuesday night and suggested he may not sign the legislation. He called on lawmakers to increase direct payments for most Americans from $600 to $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for couples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Vambo said: As compared to what? At that time what did he have to go by? Do you think Biden's decisions are better? Even with the vaccine Trump left him, he has as many deaths as under Trump. It wouldn't have mattered if Clinton was president, you'd get the same shit result. As I said above, the issue was his attitude. He polarized when he needed to unify and got an expected drop in the polls. Biden's attitude was better up until this week. The vaccine mandate by EO is going to blow up in his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, VaporTrail said: It wouldn't have mattered if Clinton was president, you'd get the same shit result. As I said above, the issue was his attitude. He polarized when he needed to unify and got an expected drop in the polls. Biden's attitude was better up until this week. The vaccine mandate by EO is going to blow up in his face. So you liked his attitude on the border, killing the pipeline deal, Afghanistan etc...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Vambo said: So you liked his attitude on the border, killing the pipeline deal, Afghanistan etc...? I was talking about the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, VaporTrail said: I was talking about the pandemic. He hasn't done anything but want masks and vaccines and that's not working but if that's good enough for you OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 I don't expect any rational conversation regarding the pandemic with most of the posters here. If your head wasn't already fully up MAGA ass, you'd agree Trump screwed up the pandemic. Some will just point to his attitude, what he said, etc. and others will say he could have made a tangible difference. Regardless, the portion of the country that isn't already blindly following him would agree he screwed it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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