SdBacker80 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, gumby73 said: Kyle Lauletta was sitting behind Davis Webb at giants... Oh Really! TD BROWNS! And he looked terrible then...much different tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Still waiting to see Felton used from the backfield like Dion Lewis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Very, very nice TD catch by #18 Davis!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 My only problem with the first half was the Huey flashback I got when they went for the TD rather than kicking the FG to go up by 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, TypicalBrowns50 said: Gotta be encouraged with backups on defense. Shut down Jacksonville’s starters for the most part Do yourself a favor and evaluate individual players. Preseason is sooooooo vanilla. How many times has a team gone undefeated in the preseason to go on and lose most of their games? I guess I’m being a buzzkill but that’s how I view all the Steeler preseason games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 To point this out because I mentioned it early the start of last year - Woods with some different front in our "base" looks with our upgraded personnel. Hitting it with some blended gap looks in that 4 man under front ala what he did in Denver. Looking forward to breaking those down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Tommy Togai put on some weight. No way is he 295. Joe Jackson might make this team over Curtis Weaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 JOK doing 3rd down business 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Kelly dancing around too much. Make a decision and go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 3rd team OL... RG Gossett nor LT Alex Taylor look good in pass pro.. Hudson did play well at LT..1 false start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 I have to say that despite all the hype that the homer announcers are doing, the Browns have played very well with so many starters both sides of the ball just watching the game. JO-K looks like the real speedy LB we were expecting to see shooting gaps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 no fan of the candy as$ coverage last set Woods.. coach'em up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Kyle keeps playing like this.. he may not get to PS 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Nice finish Offense.. pounded to finish...WR Davion Davis looking legit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Overall it is nice to see the depth of this team on display against a team trying to determine it's own starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: Kyle keeps playing like this.. he may not get to PS 😇 I liked the kid coming out.. He's got some talent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: despite all the hype that the homer announcers are doing Yup. All Jacksonville, all the time. All game long they called FB Stanton, Staley. How many times did we pass it to the FB? How many times did we HAND it to the FB? #37 Taylor musta' been saying, WTF, why can't I be in there running the ball. - Finally, he did get in. But our OL could not give the RB's much room. #28 JOK seemed small to me out there. (maybe it's the # he wears) #18 Davis represented himself well today. He's got an uphill battle. D'E did well. Felton did fairly well. I wonder if they'll let him carry the ball. DPJ did well. A 20 play, 10+ minute drive for a TD in the 4th quarter. That was pretty cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, nickers said: I liked the kid coming out.. He's got some talent... same here...watched a lot of his Richmond games cause it's a 2 hour drive from me. Lot's of local TV games. Pat Shurmur did him no favors coaching him at giants when he got drafted.. This staff looks to have him back to trusting a playcall spot.. get the ball out & trust your players.. What's crazy is? Philly/Atlanta had him last...Both teams need better back-ups.. Only 1 preseason game.. and Kyle did play well... it was good to see that Kyle again.. Command/Confident in offense/knows the playbook, with getting few camp reps.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns50 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Vagitron said: Do yourself a favor and evaluate individual players. Preseason is sooooooo vanilla. How many times has a team gone undefeated in the preseason to go on and lose most of their games? I guess I’m being a buzzkill but that’s how I view all the Steeler preseason games. Noticeable Depth. and yes, your always a buzzkill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Orion said: #28 JOK seemed small to me out there. (maybe it's the # he wears) I care not about that. What I saw was a player so quick at shooting gaps that I can hardly wait to see him when the opposing OL is occupied trying to stop the twin terrors wandering around the DL. I am betting that if he sees a lot of playing time JOK will rival those two for total season sacks. The opportunities to utilize his abilities will be innumerable. This is going to be a fun Defense to watch this year barring too many key injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 6 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: I care not about that. What I saw was a player so quick at shooting gaps that I can hardly wait to see him when the opposing OL is occupied trying to stop the twin terrors wandering around the DL. I am betting that if he sees a lot of playing time JOK will rival those two for total season sacks. The opportunities to utilize his abilities will be innumerable. This is going to be a fun Defense to watch this year barring too many key injuries. Something @bjh2130 and myself were talking about in Discord while watching the game that has carried over from JOK's Notre Dame tape - the downhill trigger, the willingness to attack gaps, was never really an issue. Doing it consistently with discipline and within the context of scheme needed some improvement, but flying to the ball carrier isn't an issue with him. What is an issue and literally happened not 2 plays after we were talking about it - throwing any type of misdirection involved with the passing game at him. He voided his underneath hook curl on a bootleg chasing too hard on a stretch flow with his eyes on the back and forgetting where his "home" was. If I'm KC, I'm going to watch that further. It speaks to what I mentioned when I say how he processes more than just the running game as a more "traditional" WILL backer. That part of his game needs considerable improvement. But in terms of 'see ball, get ball'... ZERO concern there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Something @bjh2130 and myself were talking about in Discord while watching the game that has carried over from JOK's Notre Dame tape - the downhill trigger, the willingness to attack gaps, was never really an issue. Doing it consistently with discipline and within the context of scheme needed some improvement, but flying to the ball carrier isn't an issue with him. What is an issue and literally happened not 2 plays after we were talking about it - throwing any type of misdirection involved with the passing game at him. He voided his underneath hook curl on a bootleg chasing too hard on a stretch flow with his eyes on the back and forgetting where his "home" was. If I'm KC, I'm going to watch that further. It speaks to what I mentioned when I say how he processes more than just the running game as a more "traditional" WILL backer. That part of his game needs considerable improvement. But in terms of 'see ball, get ball'... ZERO concern there. He is an amazing player - but there is still a lot to learn. These coaches will fix it - and JOK is a very, very smart player. He'll learn. Pretty impressive for his first preseason game, I think. I'm a big fan - and was still surprised at his speed getting the sack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: He is an amazing player - but there is still a lot to learn. These coaches will fix it - and JOK is a very, very smart player. He'll learn. Pretty impressive for his first preseason game, I think. I'm a big fan - and was still surprised at his speed getting the sack... The speed wasn't surprising. Remember I did that film piece on him where NoD brought him off the slot in their 5 and 6 man pressures... He has a great first step quickness. Him being sent on the sack however, given the choice of either A gap, was the surprise for me. I saw man coverage (which it was) and figured he might drop into a low middle hole and play a sort of Rat like a Cover 1. Except instead of your middle robber being a DB, it's just JOK dropping. Nope, Woods dialed up a zero blitz which I don't remember seeing really much of any last season. JOK picked his lane well, got small and got home. DB's held up rather nicely too. Very encouraging all around play in terms of the intensity everyone (especially JOK) played with. edit: Great design by Woods, actually. It is a bit of a Rat design, instead the underneath robber is Malcom on the delayed drop. His alignment and first step ties up the RG before he drops. But lets give credit to Joe Jackson as well for the pressure and getting a hand on Minshew so he couldn't climb and run. That allowed JOK to clean it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, tiamat63 said: Something @bjh2130 and myself were talking about in Discord while watching the game that has carried over from JOK's Notre Dame tape - the downhill trigger, the willingness to attack gaps, was never really an issue. Doing it consistently with discipline and within the context of scheme needed some improvement, but flying to the ball carrier isn't an issue with him. What is an issue and literally happened not 2 plays after we were talking about it - throwing any type of misdirection involved with the passing game at him. He voided his underneath hook curl on a bootleg chasing too hard on a stretch flow with his eyes on the back and forgetting where his "home" was. If I'm KC, I'm going to watch that further. It speaks to what I mentioned when I say how he processes more than just the running game as a more "traditional" WILL backer. That part of his game needs considerable improvement. But in terms of 'see ball, get ball'... ZERO concern there. In Listening to JOK (interviews since being drafted) I think he will clean up the assignment issues over the next month. The athletic ability seems to match the football intellect. and Maybe it’s a product of considerable missed time at Training Camp too. You need mental and physical reps as a new guy. I Loved the pursuit, tackling and his ability to slip blocks last night. We’ve got a good one here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 7:05 PM, gumby73 said: You would think overpaying Direct TV & Nfl ticket.... tNFL Network would give you both games to choose from as guided...but no ! ! every game on 212-1 is blacked out no matter where you live 🖕 the crooks, can't wait for your 100 bucks for gamepass.. Not the case for me... Only (minor) issue if the Browns are on local OTA- the concurrent on NFLN wasn't going to be shown. So we got the Browns on OTA- and NFLN showed the Ravens- Saints game instead. 212-1 isn't 212. 17 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: My only problem with the first half was the Huey flashback I got when they went for the TD rather than kicking the FG to go up by 9. Hah- it's preseason.. one more play in the Red Zone. I called it that they were going to try for the TD. Doubtless if it was a game that counted- we would have kicked the FG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Was out of state and missed the game, hopefully we came out of it healthy. I see they have not placed those brown pants in a dumpster and lit it on fire yet. Disappointing. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/15/jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-cleveland-browns-jacksonville-jaguars/ Excellent article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns50 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 JOK is a player that is perfect for today’s NFL game. He’s gonna be a stud. Faster than any linebacker in our division (besides Joe Schobert, the line backing grace of god now that he is with the Steelers after being dumped by two other terrible teams) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Was out of state and missed the game, hopefully we came out of it healthy. I see they have not placed those brown pants in a dumpster and lit it on fire yet. Disappointing. 😉 Wilson and Carlson are banged up...the extent of those injuries is unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/15/jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-cleveland-browns-jacksonville-jaguars/ Excellent article. Yep. Except on the last part, he made a mistake. " Given all the additions on defense, including their new hybrid defender, the Browns clearly want to stop some of the NFL’s best defenses. Owusu-Koramoah showed on this night that he could be a big part of that plan. " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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