htownbrown Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Pretty sure Mack Wilson and JoJo got to go-go. Not sure about CB, but Greedy better stay healthy this off-season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 How many day 1, 2, 3 draft picks generally end up making the final roster ? How many UFAS ? And how many 2020 guys were thinking about retirement not many I'd guess. Then the cuts and trades. The downside of too many draft picks for not enough spots. Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Here is a UDFA updating site for post draft signings. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-undrafted-free-agents-tracking-the-notable-udfa-signings-after-2021-nfl-draft/ar-BB1ggzrW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, htownbrown said: but Greedy better stay healthy this off-season... I get the feeling that he's still healing. We have a somewhat fragile CB room. Yeah, JoJo Natson is having a bad weekend. I kinda' liked what little I saw out of him...but they drafted not one but two guys. There's just no longer room for JoJo. The other draft double dipper was LB'er. There aren't enough chairs in that room anymore either. It will be very interesting to see their plan(s) for this position. The highly touted guy we drafted in round 2 that Dutch has dubbed 'Tim' supposedly demonstrated the traits that they envision for a LB'er. And Tony Fields is no big lumbering LB'er either. How many LB'ers will they play at a time? How many will they keep? - I'd assume that Mack Wilson is not in the plans. Who knows how good the guys will be, but it seems like Berry went at all of the positions that we all felt needed to be addressed. I can't argue with that. For now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Orion said: I get the feeling that he's still healing. We have a somewhat fragile CB room. Yeah, JoJo Natson is having a bad weekend. I kinda' liked what little I saw out of him...but they drafted not one but two guys. There's just no longer room for JoJo. The other draft double dipper was LB'er. There aren't enough chairs in that room anymore either. It will be very interesting to see their plan(s) for this position. The highly touted guy we drafted in round 2 that Dutch has dubbed 'Tim' supposedly demonstrated the traits that they envision for a LB'er. And Tony Fields is no big lumbering LB'er either. How many LB'ers will they play at a time? How many will they keep? - I'd assume that Mack Wilson is not in the plans. Who knows how good the guys will be, but it seems like Berry went at all of the positions that we all felt needed to be addressed. I can't argue with that. For now. I suspect that Mack Wilson IS in the plans.....at least the plan to allow him to compete for a roster spot. I am not sure that WILSON'S plan to make that roster spot will work out however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Buried in that article I posted above was draft grades for each team. Cleveland was tied with four others for top grade "A" overall. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-draft-grades-2021-best-worst-classes/el9pxr18ar921xbe3wg675rw8 Pitt was #20 with "B+" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Call me biased but the only teams to have a good a draft as us in my opinion were the Jets and Panthers..... Panthers got marked down on that review Texas for not having a good start but having a good end ..... I thought the first 4 picks were terrific for them. Bears were 4th best as they needed a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 9 hours ago, The Gipper said: I suspect that Mack Wilson IS in the plans.....at least the plan to allow him to compete for a roster spot. I dunno. I think we drafted 2 LB'ers because Mack Wilson is not the guy. I'm not so sure that he makes it to training camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 They make it to camp. We carry 90 guys to start camp. This is probably the year where we have LESS camp invites from an Undrafted Free Agent standpoint because we know what we have from a roster standpoint. We have very few positions up for grabs. But the ones that are up for grabs by all means Mack Wilson competes with the newbies for the final spots. We could have injuries too where players are stashed away in injury reserve. Lots of time to unpack it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Orion said: I dunno. I think we drafted 2 LB'ers because Mack Wilson is not the guy. I'm not so sure that he makes it to training camp. No harm in bringing him to camp. If he doesn't make it from there compared to the rest, then you cut him. If he looks better, then you drop one of them. Nothing to lose everything to gain. Plus he does now have a year experience with the Browns system. Ya never know how that can affect a player in his 2nd year unless you watch him first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 DI Wilson will definitely make the final roster as well.. Elliot, Togiai, Jackson are 3T while Billings and Wilson are NT. ST roles will determine which backup TE/LB/DB/WR make the final roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigalow80 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'm not sure the contract they gave to Wilson guarantees he makes the roster. They spent big on UFA Green last year, and he ended up on the practice squad. It will be very interesting to see how they handle the LB room. I think Mac makes it before TakiTaki, but that's just my opinion. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Fields and JOK hang out in the safety room as well. Yes, they are not "true" safeties but because of their hybrid abilities, I'm guessing they will have some of those responsibilities as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Orion said: I dunno. I think we drafted 2 LB'ers because Mack Wilson is not the guy. I'm not so sure that he makes it to training camp. Oh, I think he is definitely in trouble, but I think he still goes to camp, and possibly is terminated there at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Bigalow80 said: I'm not sure the contract they gave to Wilson guarantees he makes the roster. They spent big on UFA Green last year, and he ended up on the practice squad. It will be very interesting to see how they handle the LB room. I think Mac makes it before TakiTaki, but that's just my opinion. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Fields and JOK hang out in the safety room as well. Yes, they are not "true" safeties but because of their hybrid abilities, I'm guessing they will have some of those responsibilities as well. I am hoping that works out. Often, I think, these "tweeners" sometimes can't cut the mustard. JOK seems an exception, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 I can see Greedy Williams being a potential training camp casualty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I can see Greedy Williams being a potential training camp casualty. If he is still not healed back to 100%, then very well could be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1989 Keepers. It seemed so easy back then Defensive Starters LDE Al Baker 33 11 16 7.5 sacks, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Detroit Lions / 2nd / 40th pick / 1978 LDT Carl Hairston 37 13 16 6.5 sacks, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Philadelphia Eagles / 7th / 191st pick / 1976 RDT Michael Dean Perry*+ 24 1 16 7.0 sacks, 0 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 2nd / 50th pick / 1988 RDE Robert Banks 26 1 15 4.0 sacks, 0 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered Houston Oilers / 7th / 176th pick / 1987 LLB Clay Matthews* 33 11 16 4.0 sacks, 1 interception, 2 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 12th pick / 1978 MLB Mike Johnson* 27 3 16 1.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 18th pick / 1984 Supp RLB David Grayson 25 2 10 1.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered San Francisco 49ers / 8th / 217th pick / 1987 LCB Frank Minnifield* 29 5 16 0.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered RCB Hanford Dixon 31 8 15 0.0 sacks, 1 interception, 0 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 22nd pick / 1981 SS Felix Wright 30 4 16 0.0 sacks, 9 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered FS Thane Gash 24 1 15 2.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 hours ago, mjp28 said: 1989 Keepers. It seemed so easy back then Defensive Starters LDE Al Baker 33 11 16 7.5 sacks, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Detroit Lions / 2nd / 40th pick / 1978 LDT Carl Hairston 37 13 16 6.5 sacks, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Philadelphia Eagles / 7th / 191st pick / 1976 RDT Michael Dean Perry*+ 24 1 16 7.0 sacks, 0 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 2nd / 50th pick / 1988 RDE Robert Banks 26 1 15 4.0 sacks, 0 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered Houston Oilers / 7th / 176th pick / 1987 LLB Clay Matthews* 33 11 16 4.0 sacks, 1 interception, 2 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 12th pick / 1978 MLB Mike Johnson* 27 3 16 1.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 18th pick / 1984 Supp RLB David Grayson 25 2 10 1.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered San Francisco 49ers / 8th / 217th pick / 1987 LCB Frank Minnifield* 29 5 16 0.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered RCB Hanford Dixon 31 8 15 0.0 sacks, 1 interception, 0 fumbles recovered Cleveland Browns / 1st / 22nd pick / 1981 SS Felix Wright 30 4 16 0.0 sacks, 9 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered FS Thane Gash 24 1 15 2.0 sacks, 3 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I can see Greedy Williams being a potential training camp casualty. I can see that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 there will be alot off shifting of players after training camp. due to our cuts and other team cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 I agree with most people here that Mack Wilson had an awful draft weekend if he wants to make the team... But the other one I thought about was Higgins. I hope the plan is adding WR talent in the draft (#91 overall 2nd rounder Schwartz) so in the near future we make a WR room with whoever stays from the LSU duo (Landry, OBJ) as we won't be able to have them both, and some reliable WR2-3 (Higgins). It's ironic liking that much a WR3, but I think he adds a lot to the team in that roster spot. I think he definitely has a place in the 2021 roster but it's always a tricky game trying too keep him and the team happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I can see Greedy Williams being a potential training camp casualty. Gosh, I hope not. It'd be nice to get some use out of high draft picks. 4 hours ago, Nero said: I agree with most people here that Mack Wilson had an awful draft weekend if he wants to make the team... But the other one I thought about was Higgins. Yup. He always seems to be 'on the bubble'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Zombo said: Here are the cuts I made from my roster as the picks came in: Rd 1 Newsome CB > R. Jackson, CB Rd 2 JOK LB > E. Lee, LB Rd 3 Schwartz WR > J. Bradley, WR Rd 4 Hudson OT > A. Taylor, OT Rd 4 Tommy Toga, DT > S. Day, DT Rd 5 Tony Fields, LB > M. Wilson, LB Rd 5 LeCounte, S > J. Moffatt, S Rd 6 Fenton RB/WR > Did not immediately add him to roster, could be a protected practice squader, but the guy to beat out is Jo Jo Natson for kick returner. Zombo I think our FA DT from Florida State will find the motivation to put all that talent to use. Someone has to go from somewhere on the team, but not necessarily at DT. Fisher did not just happen upon this kid in a cabbage patch when he was HC at FSU. He was a 5-star HS player who may have lost some motivation after Fisher left for College Station. But there is talent for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/05/03/2021-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-linebackers/ versatility and speed, ability to cover (no more TE's getting open across the middle...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 The possibility of bringing back Sheldon Richardson makes it even more difficult .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 7:26 AM, darren15 said: Call me biased but the only teams to have a good a draft as us in my opinion were the Jets and Panthers..... Panthers got marked down on that review Texas for not having a good start but having a good end ..... I thought the first 4 picks were terrific for them. Bears were 4th best as they needed a QB RE: Da Bears... They gave up a ton to get Fields, they had better be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 10:03 AM, Dutch Oven said: I can see Greedy Williams being a potential training camp casualty. For Greedy, it's either be healthy, or be gone. Nerve injuries take a long time to heal, but after a year, if he's not 100%- or damn close to it, time to cut bait. I'll take it with the Browns drafting a CB in the first round as a vote of no confidence in Greedy. Regardless of what Berry said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Here's guessing Fields and LeCounte stick because they'll be ST stars who aren't useless when getting non-ST snaps due to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 5/3/2021 at 8:51 AM, Zombo said: He'll have a chance to make his mark, he might be another guy we protect until next year ... I hope he brings it. Zombo A couple of questions about the protected list. 1. How many are there? I think it is 2 2. Do those player still have to pass through waivers before they can be protected. I think yes. In both cases, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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