The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Browns are seem to be locked into the 26th Draft position. When was the last time we drafted that high. The order behind us could change some depending on outcome of playoff games...but we are at 26. DIVISIONAL ROUND LOSERS 25 LA Rams JAX 10-6 .625 9.0 .494 Won 1 26 Cleveland 11-5 .688 10.0 .451 Won 1 27 Tampa Bay 11-5 .688 10.0 .488 Won 4 28 Baltimore 11-5 .688 10.0 .494 Wo n 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Here are 20-32 in the CBS draft prospect list: 20 Trey Smith Tennessee Sr OL 6 6-6 330 21 Travis Etienne Clemson Sr RB 1 5-10 205 22 Nick Bolton Missouri Jr LB 2 6-0 232 23 Jevon Holland Oregon Jr S 1 6-1 201 24 Rashod Bateman Minnesota Jr WR 5 6-2 210 25 Mac Jones Alabama Jr QB 5 6-3 214 26 Pat Freiermuth Penn St. Jr TE 2 6-5 260 27 Christian Barmore Alabama Soph DL 2 6-5 310 28 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Notre Dame Sr LB 3 6-1 215 29 Jalen Mayfield Michigan Jr OL 7 6-5 320 30 Levi Onwuzurike Washington Sr DL 3 6-3 288 31 Patrick Jones II Pittsburgh Sr EDGE 2 6-5 260 32 Samuel Cosmi Texas Jr OL 8 6-7 309 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board. Totally agree, draft should be all defense....outside maybe a backup o lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board. Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent. Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Unsympathetic said: Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent. Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had. Nope, best defensive player on the board. Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent. DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Dutch Oven said: Nope, best defensive player on the board. Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent. DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time. Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 And if say Devonta Smith is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: And if say Devonta Smith is there? Pass. That little shit is going to get Percy Harvin'd out the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered. If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: And if say Devonta Smith is there? After the NFL watching Tyree Hill... I think he will be a top fifteen pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 My point is you make a board... clusters... need as a tie-breaker... Yada yada yada... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: And if say Devonta Smith is there? At 26? Keep thinking Butch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes. Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB. Does he fit that at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, The Gipper said: Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB. Does he fit that at all? I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football. So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: My point is you make a board... clusters... need as a tie-breaker... Yada yada yada... I am no talent analyst, I just play one on TV......but great percentages of the mock drafts....and databases have him going in the Top 5. So, if they are right, I don't think he is going to be in our cluster at 26. (Its why I only started at the 20 ranked prospects above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Dutch Oven said: I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football. So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here. When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen. You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster". I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans. If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, The Gipper said: When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen. You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster". I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans. If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere. I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: My point is you make a board... clusters... need as a tie-breaker... Yada yada yada... In this - I agree with Gipper. Smith will be long gone when the Browns are drafting. He won't last outside of the top 10. Walter has him going #3 to the Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore. Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list. Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, The Gipper said: Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list. Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"? Congratulations, you're my first ignore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Congratulations, you're my first ignore. Yep. See there.....a logical and reasonable football conversation you cannot handle apparently. You were not even capable of explaining why you think that a guy like that would not fucking "fit". Is there anyone with half a brain out there that agrees that a guy like this Barmore could be totally crossed off the Browns consideration list because he does not "fit".....and explain why? I mean....maybe he played in a 4-3 in college and a pro team runs a 3-4. Maybe they are looking for a 3-4 nose guard. I don't see why a guy like this could not play a 3-4 NT but not a 4-3 DT.....or vice versa. 6'5" 315. All American. Won't even consider him? Since when does talent not count for anything? (assuming he has that in spades) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen. - The Gipper How about someone more knowledgeable than you? Plenty of those around... Or is "smarter at" a legal thing? Oh that's right, you couldn't tell me if it was... might be too close to "advice". I'd call you a Class A Asshole, but you have no class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Congratulations, you're my first ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list. Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"? Pretty sure he was talking about Smith, not Barmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Tampa Bay can't be 27 ahead of 28 Ravens unless that was traded into from another team. They are still in it and the Ravens are done, so they move further down in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Thank you Kevin, Baker, Nick, Jarvis and Kareem for making it possible for threads like this to not be posted until the middle of January, instead of the usual mid October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 hours ago, runyon27 said: Totally agree, draft should be all defense....outside maybe a backup o lineman. I don't know about that. I could see us taking a receiver. Namely a tall outside guy and stick landry or beckum in the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent. Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had. I think O-gun is replaceable. He has leveled off after a promising rookie season. One guy you didn't mention that has shown promise is Taylor, at least in tipping passes. Not sure what kind of run stop grades he is getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Tour2ma said: And if say Devonta Smith is there? what do you think? I think it pretty unrealistic, but it may be unrealistic to think barmore is there, but he is listed there according to CBS. Generally speaking, i don't think CBS is very good in their rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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