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50 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Ya think?  Really?   The guy should be sent to the looney bin pronto if this is how he's currently thinking...  OTOH, he can use an insanity defense if he gets prosecuted.... 

Trump went beyond trying to prove that he won the state by “hundreds of thousands of votes,” pressuring Raffensperger to simply announce a new vote total showing him beating Biden, saying, “There’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you’ve recalculated.”

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then, there are the FACTS, which emotional knee jerkers refuse to consider: (from someone who ACTUALLY STUDIED THE RECORDED TEXT)

https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2021/01/04/the-presidents-call-with-the-georgia-sec-of-state-a-case-study-in-media-duplicity-and-what-pres-trump-has-had-to-battle-from-day-one-n303854

The President's Call With the Georgia Sec. of State -- a Case Study in the Media Duplicity That Pres. Trump Has Battled From Day One

 

"The context presented was so juvenile and cartoonishly improper from an objective point of view, there had to be more to the call than was being reported. "

"The Trump Campaign’s complaint identifies numerous categories of such votes and Pres. Trump was pressing the Secretary of State to do his job and confirm the same facts that the Campaign has found.

Every idiot journalist, legal pundit, and Democrat Party propagandist trotted out by the mainstream media now to claiming the President was doing anything else is lying about the substance and context of the call."

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15 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

then, there are the FACTS, which emotional knee jerkers refuse to consider: (from someone who ACTUALLY STUDIED THE RECORDED TEXT)

https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2021/01/04/the-presidents-call-with-the-georgia-sec-of-state-a-case-study-in-media-duplicity-and-what-pres-trump-has-had-to-battle-from-day-one-n303854

The President's Call With the Georgia Sec. of State -- a Case Study in the Media Duplicity That Pres. Trump Has Battled From Day One

 

"The context presented was so juvenile and cartoonishly improper from an objective point of view, there had to be more to the call than was being reported. "

"The Trump Campaign’s complaint identifies numerous categories of such votes and Pres. Trump was pressing the Secretary of State to do his job and confirm the same facts that the Campaign has found.

Every idiot journalist, legal pundit, and Democrat Party propagandist trotted out by the mainstream media now to claiming the President was doing anything else is lying about the substance and context of the call."

Redstate:  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! 

You need to find a more truthful news source if you want anyone here to take you seriously. That man is clearly unhinged and using the 25th amendment would do him a favor by certifying his inability to discern fact from fiction. Great defense against any charges later.

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Redstate:  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! 

You need to find a more truthful news source if you want anyone here to take you seriously. That man is clearly unhinged and using the 25th amendment would do him a favor by certifying his inability to discern fact from fiction. Great defense against any charges later.

attacking the reporting source is a fool's errand.

Just be careful - swimming in egypt has it's danger:

The Nile crocodile or Crocodylus niloticus, famous for its integral association with Ancient Egyptian culture, and feared for its highly aggressive disposition, is a crocodilian found in freshwater habitats in 26 African countries. An apex predator and a generalist, the Nile crocodile does not shy away from attacking a human for a meal.

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13 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Cal only gets news from sources that he knows will confirm his bias.

He makes his mind up first and gets facts second. 

 

 

As it gets harder and harder to find those facts you creat QAnon

And you don't even get your news from anywhere just whatever Cal says you bitch. But of course as usual is this a non- designed to deflect for the fact you voted for an idiot. And the left-wing scum that controls him.

WSS

 

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4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Redstate:  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! 

You need to find a more truthful news source if you want anyone here to take you seriously. That man is clearly unhinged and using the 25th amendment would do him a favor by certifying his inability to discern fact from fiction. Great defense against any charges later.

More Trump butt smooching from Red State? :D   I read the entire transcript too, and have a slightly different opinion.  For that matter, so does Larry Tribe- who also listened to it- one of the most respected Constitutional scholars. Couldn't believe what he was hearing, and said his jaw about hit the floor.  Essentially said Trump is up shit creek after that phone call.  Sited several instances- chapter and verse of the Federal Election Code that Trump violated. Even if he manages to get pardoned for Federal violations- there's nothing stopping Georgia from filing state election interference charges- and they're already looking into it.  

"Fani Willis, the newly elected district attorney of Georgia’s Fulton County, said her office stands ready to prosecute Trump for telling Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in a phone call Saturday to “find” him enough votes to overturn President-elect Biden’s narrow win in the state."

No wonder besides Georgia, Cheetos has been clandestinely calling other Governors and Secretaries of State for a little election "help". He knows once he can't hide behind the Presidential shield anymore, there's that other stuff in New York, and the rape lawsuit awaiting him.  Looks like Cal's "greatest President ever" may be going from the White House to the Big House.  

3 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Cal only gets news from sources that he knows will confirm his bias.

He makes his mind up first and gets facts second. 

As it gets harder and harder to find those facts you creat QAnon

If you want to call them "facts" and not distortions. He didn't listen to Gabe Sterling's press conference either- where Gabe systematically debunked every one of Trumps lies. There's a fact checker on CNN too- but Conspiracy Cal will just brush all that off as Fake News.  

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12 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

And you don't even get your news from anywhere just whatever Cal says you bitch. But of course as usual is this a non- designed to deflect for the fact you voted for an idiot. And the left-wing scum that controls him.

WSS

 

Yep, I voted for a shitty candidate. I have never once tried to hold Biden up as some great option. Never tried to "deflect" from that. 

A shitty candidate that was still by far the best option.

 

Let me know when Cal posts something that isn't RedState, Newsmax, Blaze, OAN, etc. These sites are designed to present twisted truths / lies to pander to the biases of their readers for clicks. That's it. They aren't designed to inform. "Ohh, MSM, blah blah blah." Yeah, we get it, any source of media that doesn't praise dear leader is "fake news". It's getting old. And as these insane, pathetic, stupid folk start to talk about killing politicians for treason and essentially backing a coup, it gets less "these people are bias" and more "these people might as well be in Noth Korea." 

It's sad such a large portion of our country got to this point. This board is a great example 

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17 minutes ago, hoorta said:

 

If you want to call them "facts" and not distortions. He didn't listen to Gabe Sterling's press conference either- where Gabe systematically debunked every one of Trumps lies. There's a fact checker on CNN too- but Conspiracy Cal will just brush all that off as Fake News.  

 

I'm looking  forward to this clown and his cult disappearing (or at least being out of the White House)

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9 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Yep, I voted for a shitty candidate. I have never once tried to hold Biden up as some great option. Never tried to "deflect" from that. 

 

FUCK YOU!!  you lying lil know nothing never done nothing pc of excrement!

 

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5 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

Being in the middle of an animal-stak, recycle, organ-shield & milk thistle combo... I can comfortably tell you that legal supplements don't do that to you.

Is that anything like BBQ ribs, potato salad and pinto beans with a fresh peach cobbler dessert?🤣

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10 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

attacking the reporting source is a fool's errand.

Just be careful - swimming in egypt has it's danger:

The Nile crocodile or Crocodylus niloticus, famous for its integral association with Ancient Egyptian culture, and feared for its highly aggressive disposition, is a crocodilian found in freshwater habitats in 26 African countries. An apex predator and a generalist, the Nile crocodile does not shy away from attacking a human for a meal.

Lookin'' in the mirror again are ye? I warned you about never being able to get out of the rabbithole of the trumpy "election fraud" lie. It's his best yet. He may be able to ride it even better than his Obama birther lie. But now you live in his lies that have crossed into true delusions for the man. All to protect that really bad case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. We had one like this come into to the inpatient psychiatric unit once who was so far into it that he actually believed that the female psychologist would actually fall for him when he tried to hit on her in the initial team assessment interview. Donald is now fully immersed in the stolen election delusion and you have chosen to go down in that rabbithole with him. But you aren't alone. It ends in sedition and treason in case you didn't get that yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hawley-cruz-and-their-senate-cohort-are-the-constitutions-most-dangerous-domestic-enemies/2021/01/04/912d2530-4ebf-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

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1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

We had one like this come into to the inpatient psychiatric unit once who was so far into it that he actually believed that the female psychologist would actually fall for him when he tried to hit on her in the initial team assessment interview.

She did like me, I know she did.

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Is that anything like BBQ ribs, potato salad and pinto beans with a fresh peach cobbler dessert?🤣

God, I wish.  Might be able to make the beans happen for a good protein.    But after this cycle? I'm going to grab a pizza, a tall blizzard and slip into the most incredible food coma.

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11 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Yep, I voted for a shitty candidate. I have never once tried to hold Biden up as some great option. Never tried to "deflect" from that. 

A shitty candidate that was still by far the best option.-

 

Let me know when Cal posts something that isn't RedState, Newsmax, Blaze, OAN, etc. These sites are designed to present twisted truths / lies to pander to the biases of their readers for clicks. That's it. They aren't designed to inform. "Ohh, MSM, blah blah blah." Yeah, we get it, any source of media that doesn't praise dear leader is "fake news". It's getting old. And as these insane, pathetic, stupid folk start to talk about killing politicians for treason and essentially backing a coup, it gets less "these people are bias" and more "these people might as well be in Noth Korea." 

It's sad such a large portion of our country got to this point. This board is a great example 

Please explain which  policies of Biden and what accomplishments he's made in 47 years in politics make him the best option...don't use Trump in your answer.

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1 minute ago, Vambo said:

Please explain which  policies of Biden and what accomplishments he's made in 47 years in politics make him the best option...don't use Trump in your answer.

Good luck getting an answer from one of the Biden scrotum suckers.

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2 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

Good luck getting an answer from one of the Biden scrotum suckers.

None of them can answer it hoorta, woody, tex and lil queenie are all stumped for over a year. It's open to all of them.

Please explain which  policies of Biden and what accomplishments he's made in 47 years in politics make him the best option...don't use Trump in your answer.

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🙄

 

MSM at it again, based on only edited portions of the Call.

Same ole MO.

 

It was another trap that these idiots fall for so easily (GA SoS).

 

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/raeport-white-house-planning-refer-brad-raffensperger-secret-service-investigation-espionage-act/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

 

So now the Secret Service (on Nat Sec grounds) get to investigate the GA Election Fraud, plus they now get too track down the $Millions from China he received.

 

The R's as guilty as the D's.

Hell, they're all just Uni-Party anyway.

 

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3 hours ago, JAFBF said:

🙄

 

MSM at it again, based on only edited portions of the Call.

Same ole MO.

 

It was another trap that these idiots fall for so easily (GA SoS).

 

image.png.5718ae6a5c7cde8ed0b323ae68b985c0.png

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/raeport-white-house-planning-refer-brad-raffensperger-secret-service-investigation-espionage-act/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

 

So now the Secret Service (on Nat Sec grounds) get to investigate the GA Election Fraud, plus they now get too track down the $Millions from China he received.

 

The R's as guilty as the D's.

Hell, they're all just Uni-Party anyway.

 

It's what Trump does. Stir up crap on anyone he dreams crosses him... Can I see your QAnon card please JB?  

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3 hours ago, JAFBF said:

🙄

 

MSM at it again, based on only edited portions of the Call.

Same ole MO.

 

It was another trap that these idiots fall for so easily (GA SoS).

 

image.png.5718ae6a5c7cde8ed0b323ae68b985c0.png

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/raeport-white-house-planning-refer-brad-raffensperger-secret-service-investigation-espionage-act/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

 

So now the Secret Service (on Nat Sec grounds) get to investigate the GA Election Fraud, plus they now get too track down the $Millions from China he received.

 

The R's as guilty as the D's.

Hell, they're all just Uni-Party anyway.

 

The SS doesn't handle enforcement of the EA, that would be the DoJ.

So the White House is welcomed to refer Brad to the SS all they damn well please.  They'll file it under "noted".  

 

Also... "Espionage?"  LOL.    I can't even call you a clown. Clowns work autonomously.  You're just a fucking lap dog at this point.

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9 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Lookin'' in the mirror again are ye? I warned you about never being able to get out of the rabbithole of the trumpy "election fraud" lie. It's his best yet. He may be able to ride it even better than his Obama birther lie. But now you live in his lies that have crossed into true delusions for the man. All to protect that really bad case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. We had one like this come into to the inpatient psychiatric unit once who was so far into it that he actually believed that the female psychologist would actually fall for him when he tried to hit on her in the initial team assessment interview. Donald is now fully immersed in the stolen election delusion and you have chosen to go down in that rabbithole with him. But you aren't alone. It ends in sedition and treason in case you didn't get that yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hawley-cruz-and-their-senate-cohort-are-the-constitutions-most-dangerous-domestic-enemies/2021/01/04/912d2530-4ebf-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

I'll get to my comment on George Will's OpEd in a separate post. But related to it- It's refreshing to read the comments (by the thousands) on articles that show up in the WaPo Tex. They're 180 degrees from the conspiracy crap that shows up here.  :)  The important nugget is one of the posters over there pointed out (accurately I believe)- that because of his stress of losing the election he fantasizes he "won" is Trump has gone from plain old NPD to "malignant narcissism". You may be familiar with the term, but I had to do a little research. Sure enough... Trump checks all the boxes...  

Grandiose fantasies and behavior, such as a preoccupation with thoughts of personal success, power, and attractiveness or sex appeal.

Little or no empathy for other people’s emotions or feelings

A significant need for attention, admiration, and recognition

An inflated sense of self-importance, such as a tendency to exaggerate personal talent or achievements

A belief in personal specialness and superiority

A sense of entitlement

A tendency to take advantage of others or exploit people for personal gain

Arrogant or conceited behavior and attitudes

People with NPD often have trouble dealing with change. They may feel depressed or humiliated when they feel slighted, have a hard time with insecurity and vulnerability, and react angrily when others don’t seem to regard them with the admiration they need and feel they deserve. This condition also tends to involve difficulty managing emotions and behavioral responses to stress.

Disdain for authority and social norms, shown by continued illegal or lawbreaking behavior

A pattern of deceit, including exploitation and manipulation of other people

Reckless, impulsive, or risky behavior that shows disregard for personal safety or the safety of other people Covid anyone? 

Little or no remorse for harmful or illegal actions

A generally hostile, irritable, aggressive, restless, or agitated mood

A pattern of irresponsible, arrogant, or disrespectful behavior

Difficulty planning ahead

Hostile aggression. This is behavior specifically aimed at injuring or destroying someone or something.

That's enough for the short attention spans... to be continued.... 

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9 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Lookin'' in the mirror again are ye? I warned you about never being able to get out of the rabbithole of the trumpy "election fraud" lie. It's his best yet. He may be able to ride it even better than his Obama birther lie. But now you live in his lies that have crossed into true delusions for the man. All to protect that really bad case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. We had one like this come into to the inpatient psychiatric unit once who was so far into it that he actually believed that the female psychologist would actually fall for him when he tried to hit on her in the initial team assessment interview. Donald is now fully immersed in the stolen election delusion and you have chosen to go down in that rabbithole with him. But you aren't alone. It ends in sedition and treason in case you didn't get that yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hawley-cruz-and-their-senate-cohort-are-the-constitutions-most-dangerous-domestic-enemies/2021/01/04/912d2530-4ebf-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Ah yes, some here have crossed (as George Will pointed out) into the "Grassy Knoll" of conspiracy. Probably why I'll mostly exit this cesspool after January 20th, they're going to be claiming unfounded crap for years.  Now we have truckloads of ballots strangely appearing from all over the place. (Which has been debunked by election officials) And the CIA killed Kennedy too... 

Which brings me back to the other point I wanted to make before the other thread got too lengthy. His lemmings still don't believe it, but it's gotten to the point that Trump has IMHO certifiably gone nuts. Stress of believing he can never lose at anything, much less an election to Joe Biden. Probably believes he beats Jordan Spieth and Rory McElroy when he plays a round of golf with them too...  So the circle of deceit  goes like this..

1) Whacko (see previous post)Trump claims the election was "rigged" and "fraudulent".

2) His lemmings without question believe, yup, rigged, fraudulent. 

3) Then guys like Hawley (who knows better- he's a Yale Law School grad) claims my constituents think there was voter fraud- we must investigate!!!

4) Then Trump chimes in. See, my lemmings believe it, it's true!!!!  

Regarding Hawley and the miscreant sedition crowd tomorrow. They know they're not going to change the outcome, but they hope the sane Senators who don't live in Trump's alternate universe like Thune and others (not to mention the Democrats in the House) will save them from what would be a death blow to democracy as we know it- overturning a lawful election with no proven cases of massive voter fraud. 

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More Republicans say they will object to US election ...

 

Nearly A Dozen Republican Senators Will Object To ...

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Jan 02, 2021 · A group of eleven Republican senators on Saturday announced plans to object to certification of the Electoral College if a 10-day “emergency audit” of election results in key states is …

 

 

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