By my tabulations, Pres Trump WINS BIG

[calfoxwc]

   We went camping for three days - beautiful place, fishing was crap, but the trails were great.

and it was very quiet.

except for the constant lawnmowers. and a neighbor with a big pile of wood splitting wood til 9:45 at night.

and, his wood was all small enough to fit easily in the fire pits. So, we figured he was highly stressed and that was his outlet. We had a great time, a lot of fun. On the way there, fyi - route 23 S gets into Cambridge and ends. You're on 23 S, and eventually, in town,   you end up on a side street that ends. at a pond and a park. We've had this problem two years ago, lol, dammit, it happened again.

This time, it was early in the day, and we drove into the parking lot and two old guys having a "tailgate" wearing Ohio state garb...on a WED ? lol and they grinned and said it happens every so often - and explained where it ends up. And agreed there isn't a sign.     The street sign guy must have been from woodpecker's college. A "sign engineer" that can't figure out how to put a sign up.

We explored, went a back way - and after a hundred? miles of really large soybean and cornfields, it got interesting - more soybean and cornfields.

On the way back, we took the expressway, which when we got to 70...there was a long, long bunch of construction. Everybody was unhappy going 5 miles an hour once in a while. Eventually, we all took off, but then everybody had to hit the brakes. A funeral procession was going about 25 mph on the expressway, all with emergency lights flashing. In the construction area. Then, a few cars doing about 85 or 90 blew past a lot of us, cut off a few tractor trailers, and sped up to the funeral procession. then they put on their blinkers and were part of the procession but were late.

      Oh, and they were in the leftmost lane the entire time. THEN they moved over to the left and started doing 80 miles an hr.

sick stupid biden voters.

   Which, brings me to the political part - our trip there, was 5 1/2 hrs, should have been four. On the way back home, it was 6 hrs. It was fun and funny to us, ok, a little aggravating here and there, but the point is, ....

   all along the way there, we noticed all the Pres TRUMP and PENCE signs. There were probably about 300, seriously. I lost count at 142 and gave up.

   and in all seriousness, there were only about 15 biden signs. The difference was dramatic, and that includes way out in the boondocks, and towns and cities all the way there. and, two of the biden signs were on vacant lots. lol. pitiful. One house had a biden sign on one side of their driveway, and a Trump sign on the other side of the driveway.

   How does THAT work?

People who CARE about AMERICA will come out in droves to save her. we decided, our best guess, is that the signs were about 95% Pres Trump Pence signs.

    The biggest false narrative that TDS bs emotional knee jerkies have going for them, they think, is that they can win this election. and they have plans to disrupt our entire government and election to at least NOT lose.

   

[Neo]

25 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

all along the way there, we noticed all the Pres TRUMP and PENCE signs. There were probably about 300, seriously. I lost count at 142 and gave up.

I really don't think that matters. There were literally Trump signs everywhere where I live about a month and a half ago, now I am starting to see Biden-Harris signs pop up everywhere in people's yards. Now there are just the same amount if not more Biden signs and even noticed a yard that had a Trump sign now has a Biden sign. I guess it just depends on where you are.

[Vambo]

28 minutes ago, Neo said:

I really don't think that matters. There were literally Trump signs everywhere where I live about a month and a half ago, now I am starting to see Biden-Harris signs pop up everywhere in people's yards. Now there are just the same amount if not more Biden signs and even noticed a yard that had a Trump sign now has a Biden sign. I guess it just depends on where you are.

Take some pictures and show us all those Biden signs!

[Neo]

1 minute ago, Vambo said:

Take some pictures and show us all those Biden signs!

Why so you can stalk me? Sure I will. I'll be out and about tomorrow.

 

 

[Vambo]

1 minute ago, Neo said:

Why so you can stalk me? Sure I will. I'll be out and about tomorrow.

 

 

You are full of shit! Busted in a lie what an asshole!

[Neo]

2 minutes ago, Vambo said:

You are full of shit! Busted in a lie what an asshole!

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? What the fuck is wrong with you? I bet your parents have been asking that same question for YEARS.

[Vambo]

Just now, Neo said:

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing like everyone else here laughing at how you make a fool or yourself, you're a hypocrite asshole!

[Neo]

Even this guy would make a better president than what we have now.

[Neo]

10 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Nothing like everyone else here laughing at how you make a fool or yourself, you're a hypocrite asshole!

 

[Vambo]

 

[Vambo]

 

[hammertime]

Cameltoe and Higardly have a voice that is soooo annoying that any message is lost immediately 

they’re repulsive.

[Axe]

24 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Cameltoe and Higardly have a voice that is soooo annoying that any message is lost immediately 

they’re repulsive.

Along with Sarah Palin to be fair.

[calfoxwc]

18 minutes ago, Axe said:

Along with Sarah Palin to be fair.

true, but SHE has common sense - she knows how to keep warm in winter and fish.

the other two....

need the gov to be their nannies and probably need escorted back home every time they go out because

they can't find it.

[TexasAg1969]

6 hours ago, Vambo said:

Nothing like everyone else here laughing at how you make a fool or yourself, you're a hypocrite asshole!

Actually I'm kind of laughing at you, so "everyone" is kind of an overblown statement confined to the Corona King's blowmen.😂

[calfoxwc]

Just now, TexasAg1969 said:

Actually I'm kind of laughing at you, so "everyone" is kind of an overblown statement confined to the Corona King's blowmen.😂

another false narrative. But I shake my head at you, Tex, and that is true, not false

[TexasAg1969]

1 minute ago, calfoxwc said:

another false narrative. But I shake my head at you, Tex, and that is true, not false

Well I enjoyed the outdoor part of the narrative anyway.😁

[calfoxwc]

Just now, TexasAg1969 said:

Well I enjoyed the outdoor part of the narrative anyway.😁

that is because like me, maybe, you were born a goofy comedian child - you just like the negative attention of acting like

a socialist hater. I see past it. Most of the time.

[Vambo]

1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Actually I'm kind of laughing at you, so "everyone" is kind of an overblown statement confined to the Corona King's blowmen.😂

Neo Jr. you keep sinking lower and lower your lips securely pressed on Creepy Joe's nut sack.

[TexasAg1969]

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

that is because like me, maybe, you were born a goofy comedian child - you just like the negative attention of acting like

a socialist hater. I see past it. Most of the time.

 LOL! I will not deny it, but I still don't buy what trumpy is pawning.  😁 But to be fair I don't buy much from the ultra-liberal pawn shot either. Price is too high.🤑

 

I was out  in the outback with my cats this morning and for the past couple of weeks, especially in the morning, I've been hearing a wild turkey or two back in the woods.

Haven't been able to see them yet like I did in the spring, but the sound this guys is demonstrating is what I've been hearing. He's really good at this BTW.  Oh and did I say a flock of 

5 or 6 crossed the road in front of me a couple weeks back while riding a main artery in Sun City on my bicycle? So they are around for sure.

 

[TexasAg1969]

7 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Neo Jr. you keep sinking lower and lower your lips securely pressed on Creepy Joe's nut sack.

Copycat. I need more original material from you.😂

[Vambo]

1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Copycat. I need more original material from you.😂

 Wipe your chin, are you sad your Creepy uncle Joe is away?

[TexasAg1969]

5 minutes ago, Vambo said:

 Wipe your chin, are you sad your Creepy uncle Joe is away?

Actually I'm kind of sad ole trumpy will continue to get more cultists infected. But what's more important, lives or election...........let's get that WH lawn and those rallies filled right up and the sacrificial lemmings are lined up for the run.

[Vambo]

8 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Actually I'm kind of sad ole trumpy will continue to get more cultists infected. But what's more important, lives or election...........let's get that WH lawn and those rallies filled right up and the sacrificial lemmings are lined up for the run.

Have you been rubbing Creepy Joe's leg hair poolside all summer?

[Vambo]

 

[hammertime]

2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Actually I'm kind of sad ole trumpy will continue to get more cultists infected. But what's more important, lives or election...........let's get that WH lawn and those rallies filled right up and the sacrificial lemmings are lined up for the run.

It’s really an odd stance to take.

i mean you and almost the whole world knows that Covaid has been way overplayed.

its a real case study how even when presented with facts your still in denial.

 

Your life isn’t going to get better if you continue to be afraid.

 

[calfoxwc]

52 minutes ago, hammertime said:

It’s really an odd stance to take.

i mean you and almost the whole world knows that Covaid has been way overplayed.

its a real case study how even when presented with facts your still in denial.

 

Your life isn’t going to get better if you continue to be afraid.

 

except Hoorta wants President Trump to have sent our entire country into a terrorized panic.

then he could have blamed President Trump for it.

ah, it never ends.

[hoorta]

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

except Hoorta wants President Trump to have sent our entire country into a terrorized panic.

then he could have blamed President Trump for it.

ah, it never ends.

Did you see any terror in South Korea? Japan?  Nope, they followed proper medical protocols Cal... And a lot more of them are alive because of it... Give them combined about 40% of the US population, and 1% of the deaths. So don't say we couldn't have done better.... 

Captain Covid has been at war with Fauci, Birx, CDC, FDA and damn near anyone else who is trying to get the truth out for months... Saying it's no big deal (tell that to the families who have lost loved ones to the disease), it's going to go away, pushing quack treatments, masks are optional. Even getting the disease himself has shown there's something seriously wrong with him mentally. He's never going to change, or at least admit some of the mess we're in is his doing... 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

15 minutes ago, hoorta said:

Did you see any terror in South Korea? Japan?  Nope, they followed proper medical protocols Cal... And a lot more of them are alive because of it... Give them combined about 40% of the US population, and 1% of the deaths. So don't say we couldn't have done better.... 

Captain Covid has been at war with Fauci, Birx, CDC, FDA and damn near anyone else who is trying to get the truth out for months... Saying it's no big deal (tell that to the families who have lost loved ones to the disease), it's going to go away, pushing quack treatments, masks are optional. Even getting the disease himself has shown there's something seriously wrong with him mentally. He's never going to change, or at least admit some of the mess we're in is his doing... 

Americans are not like South Koreans and Japanese.  So comparing them is irrelevant.  They already wear masks when they have a cold even.

[calfoxwc]

1 hour ago, hoorta said:

Did you see any terror in South Korea? Japan?  Nope, they followed proper medical protocols Cal... And a lot more of them are alive because of it... Give them combined about 40% of the US population, and 1% of the deaths. So don't say we couldn't have done better.... 

Captain Covid has been at war with Fauci, Birx, CDC, FDA and damn near anyone else who is trying to get the truth out for months... Saying it's no big deal (tell that to the families who have lost loved ones to the disease), it's going to go away, pushing quack treatments, masks are optional. Even getting the disease himself has shown there's something seriously wrong with him mentally. He's never going to change, or at least admit some of the mess we're in is his doing... 

and S. Korea never shut down. and S. Korea lives with the threat of war from N. Korea 24x7 all year long, every year.

and S. Korea doesn't have an American Constitution, for starters.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/27/5-things-americans-should-know-about-south-koreas-handling-of-coronavirus/

Did South Korea Violate Civil Liberties?

South Korea’s efficiency and effectiveness included surveillance and data gathering without court warrants, compulsory testing, and mandatory isolation, which American citizens might never be on board with, Heritage’s Klingner said. 

The South Korean government began testing asymptomatic people, then isolated patients even if they had only mild symptoms. U.S. officials have discouraged those without symptoms from getting tested, in large part because of a shortage of testing equipment. 

South Korea changed its law to allow the government to engage in more surveillance to determine who diagnosed citizens were in contact with. The government then could access citizens’ cellphones, credit card and other financial information, and GPS data to know where they had been and who they had been with.

In some cases, the government then could quarantine not only a patient who tests positive but those who came in contact with the patient. 

This week in South Korea, a 97-year-old woman—well into the age group most susceptible to the coronavirus—fully recovered from COVID-19. 

This was one more victory for South Korea, a U.S. ally that is viewed as a success story to the world in combating the coronavirus pandemic. 

The small country of South Korea is close to China, a huge nation where the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19 originated. Nevertheless, South Korea succeeded in stopping the spread of the virus and avoided shutting down its economy as the United States and most of Europe have done. 

That said, South Korea—a free and capitalist democracy—took measures to curb civil liberties that likely wouldn’t go over well in many Western countries. 

 

Here are five things Americans should know about South Korea’s handling of the coronavirus. 

 

 

2. How Did South Korea Jump-Start Testing?

South Korea moved in early February to approve diagnostic trials by private companies to develop a test for COVID-19. By the end of the month, the country had established 600 testing sites, including drive-thru testing centers, and was evaluating as many as 20,000 daily. 

The first case of COVID-19 in the United States was detected the same day, Jan. 20, as the first case in South Korea. However, the smaller country reacted more quickly. 

This was in part because of past experiences with diseases, said Bruce Klingner, senior research fellow at the Asian Studies Center at The Heritage Foundation.             

Some media coverage predicted that South Korea would have the second-largest outbreak behind China—prompting 170 countries to impose restrict travel from South Korea, Klingner told The Daily Signal. 

SARS, which stands for severe acute respiratory syndrome, began in China in 2002. MERS, or Middle East respiratory syndrome, first emerged in 2012. 

With the coronavirus, the United States faced a regulatory maze early on. Government officials relied on the traditional route of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, rather than free up the private sector as South Korea did, Reuters reported. 

The CDC used a lengthy vetting process and did not approve nongovernmental tests until Feb. 29, about five weeks after the government’s discussion with outside labs began.

Libertarian-leaning Rep. Justin Amash, I-Mich., tweeted last week that too much government was a weakness for the United States. 

This is a tale of two approaches: South Korea’s government allowed the private sector to act quickly to develop testing. Our government allowed the FDA to block private sector efforts, precisely when they were needed most. https://t.co/UyDLgmIZNG

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 19, 2020

“South Korea’s government allowed the private sector to act quickly to develop testing,” Amash, a former Republican, tweeted. “Our government allowed the FDA to block private sector efforts, precisely when they were needed most.”

Last week, the Food and Drug Administration approved a test to detect the coronavirus in 45 minutes, but South Korea already has a 10-minute kit.                      

3. Is U.S. Catching Up on Testing?

The United States, according to official counts, has the highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the world.

President Donald Trump eventually approved a wave of deregulation to spur the private sector to develop testing and medicines. 

“We’re doing record numbers of tests now, far more than any other country has done,” Trump said in a press conference Thursday. 

“You heard so much about South Korea, the media kept talking, ‘South Korea, South Korea, South Korea,’” Trump said, later adding: “In eight days, we do more testing than they did in eight weeks, and it’s a very highly sophisticated test, too.”

South Korean officials announced Wednesday that it would provide the United States with testing kits, one day after Trump spoke to South Korean President Moon Jae-in.

Trump deserves credit for relaxing some of the most unnecessary federal rules, said Robert Moffit, a former deputy assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services, now a senior fellow in health policy studies at The Heritage Foundation. 

In an example of past regulation, Johns Hopkins University was not allowed to test because it was not a government agency, which Moffit said was ridiculous.

“There is no question South Korea moved very fast and has been the poster child for how to tackle this,” he told The Daily Signal. 

Clearly, the United States is developing enough tests to examine a greater number of people than South Korea, “but per capita, we’re not even close,” Moffit said. 

South Korea, with its population of million, has done about 358,000 tests, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Earlier this week, White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborarh Birx said 370,000 tests had been done in the United States. 

As of early Friday, 540,000 tests had been done in the U.S., according to an estimate by the COVID Tracking Project, a partnership between journalists from The Atlantic magazine and Jeff Hammerbacher, founder of Related Sciences.

4. Did South Korea Violate Civil Liberties?

South Korea’s efficiency and effectiveness included surveillance and data gathering without court warrants, compulsory testing, and mandatory isolation, which American citizens might never be on board with, Heritage’s Klingner said. 

The South Korean government began testing asymptomatic people, then isolated patients even if they had only mild symptoms. U.S. officials have discouraged those without symptoms from getting tested, in large part because of a shortage of testing equipment. 

South Korea changed its law to allow the government to engage in more surveillance to determine who diagnosed citizens were in contact with. The government then could access citizens’ cellphones, credit card and other financial information, and GPS data to know where they had been and who they had been with.

In some cases, the government then could quarantine not only a patient who tests positive but those who came in contact with the patient. 

5. Could America Replicate South Korea’s Effort?

As the new coronavirus spread, China’s communist government was far more restrictive than the South Korea government, enforcing severe bans on speech, forcing isolation, removing people from their residences, and quarantining health care workers. 

These actions did slow the spread of the coronavirus, noted Dr. Lee Gross, president of Docs 4 Patient Care, a health care advocacy group. 

“You can do that in some societies and they would look favorably upon it,” Gross told The Daily Signal. “I’m not sure people would do that in the U.S.”

Gross, who practices family medicine in North Port, Florida, said that after the New York City quarantine was imposed, New Yorkers began flying into Florida. He said Florida state officials are issuing self-quarantine orders to travelers from such high-risk areas. 

“People don’t follow self-stay-at-home orders,” Gross said. “Americans don’t like being told what to do.”

Moffit, the Heritage health policy expert who is a former HHS official, said South Korea’s actions could not occur at a national level in the United States and would be ineffective if tried. 

“From a public health perspective, South Korea was very aggressive in isolating people rather than putting them in crowded hospitals,” he said.