The truth about the political board

[calfoxwc]

   For newcomers, it's probably good to explain it all.

Years ago now, there was no political forum. And the left talked hate politics vs the republican president, etc etc etc. Well, it is supposed to be about football. But, it wasn't deleted at all. So, I made one post, of all the denigrating pictures of ...Bush? I posted one picture to counter all the political hate posturing. It was just the opposite of what all they were posting.

   and it got deleted immediately. I noticed it, and wondered if my mouse or keyboard acted up or something, so I posted it again. Deleted immediately.  I still thought something had gone wrong, but nope. Third time deleted. None of the hate stuff was deleted in the thread. Just my response pic. haha.

  So, eventually it was such a problem with politics overtaking football, they created the political forum. This was great, I hated talking politics on the football side.

   The moderator, a very good guy, was fair. But the left started hating him, because he didn't take sides. They gave him so much crap, that he got annoyed, and started deleting their crap. I told him, after a while, that they were trying to get him to respond in a bad way so they could get him gone and replaced.

   But he got upset with all the hate attacks, didn't listen, and got gone. And a few of them admitted it, and laughed.

Then Westside Steve became the mod, and he doesn't take sides. Sure enough, lol, he's gotten some flack because he doesn't. Not ever from me. He does a great job. Which, infuriates some on the left. Steve won't help them control the narrative. Of course, he won't help the right, either, which makes the left happy.

   Dang, being a lefty is a conflict in existence, isn't it?

  So, we have Hoorta, mod over on the football side, come over. And he bashed Pres Trump, bashes and bashes.....and sides with the left, and criticizes the conservatives on the board, especially me, and bashes Pres Trump irrationally as the rest of the left. And the left can troll all they want, he says not one word. But one of us trolls? trolling THEN is bad.

   Now, Hoorta admits that three different people asked him to ask Kathy to get rid of the political forum, which, is how I have always said they operate. They emotionally demand to control the narrative, because they operate on emotion. When they can't control the narrative, they can't control other's free speech, they freak out and HATE.

  A lot like the deep state can't control OUR PRES TRUMP - so they hate him. The next pres election decides America's fate. And they lost the big one last time, this one is bigger.

  So, they are desperate. Over on the football side, Hoorta is a liberal (oops, my bad "independent"- who wants to shut us up, I've heard that Zombo is a democrat but I don't know, and over there, hacks like woody will have a controlling friend who is biased for them.

They don't have it here, so they want this forum shut down, and own the football side again.

   That leads to the question - who are the three who want this forum shut down? lol

If I was a bettin man...I'd put a thousand bucks on Woody. you betcha. lol The other two? dont' know, but......

Woody started the political thread about kneeling on the football side, which is very controversial, but it also pertained to two Browns. I tried to avoid it, but I kept reading the hostility, and replied mildly maybe once, or twice.

I've said for a few years, many times, "big serious trouble". I didn't know how big and serious it was going to be.

it's worse than I imagined, as far as the corruption in our gov. I've also said for years - that the left demands to control everything - that is what they do.

I wish I could post on the political board like I ....almost....always post on the football forum.

  You see it all around the country now. The police stand in the way of intimidating America. Our Pres Trump stands in the way of them owning America. Republicans in the Senate stand in the way of them controlling America.

   Our Constitution/Bill of Rights stand in the way of them owning and controlling the American people. The left has always demanded their free speech - 1st Amendment  !!!!. But as always, they find every way and every excuse to deny their political opposition THEIR free speech. Funny how that works, isn't it?

  Our 2nd Amendment stands in the way of them intimidating and frightening into submission - the American people who don't agree with them.

   Our immigration laws stand in the way of them flooding our electoral process with fraud - and votes by people who don't speak English, have little? education, don't know about our Constitution/Bill of Rights, and are easily manipulated because they are destitute without welfare help from the big welfare state.

   They demand control of everything. Pres Trump kept his promises - on the Supreme Court. And they tried to stop Kavanaugh with activist liar fake witnesses, hideous slurs and tried to completely destroy him and his family.

   They have done every thing they could think of, to try to destroy Trump's chances to become president, and then when that didn't work, they went back to their "insurance policy" (per strzok and page) in case he won.

   He won, and they set out to destroy him and his family ever since.

Obamao commie insisted to Pres Trump that he not hire General Flynn, who HE fired. for no good reason.

Gen Flynn was not one of them. They couldn't make him dance the deep state dance, which is very dangerous because General Flynn knew way, way, way too much.

But, Pres Trump did hire him - and they immediately set out to destroy General Flynn and his entire family too.

It goes on and on. It's a now violent deep state/marxist/liberal/globalist etc revolution.

Biden is as corrupt as the day is long in the summer, but the left hates Pres Trump for his tweets, and pretends to hate everything he does and doesn't do for unknown reasons they won't divulge...

but they will vote for biden anyways. And Biden says he's coming for our guns. and has already picked the guy who will come for them.

  So, with the most election coming up, the left cannot stand to not own this forum completely. OBF is a good friend, who was far more eloquent than I am, extremely smart....very non-confrontational, really intelligent, great natured, full of grace Christian poster.

  And he met with the hostility, and decided there were more important things he wanted to work on.

You can bet that if I had posted that same thread about the kneeling, and had the opposite opinion, it would have been moved to the political forum immediately. lol

   That is how the left rolls. In emotion. You agree with them, it's great. You don't - all hell from them breaks loose.

Lastly, here is also how it works with the left:

"hate speech" means "conservatives shut up".

"man made global warming (oh, sorry, "climate change") , means do what we say, vote how we say

"dirty cop murders black man" means "get rid of all police, burn them out, unfund them out, so WE CAN BE the AUTHORITY.

with the "cancel" weapon- they can make anyone, everyone fearful of losing their jobs/careers if they politically disagree with the left.

  They get control of the IRS - it means they harass/obstruct and target conservative groups.

They get control of our intel agencies and FBI - you know how that went. Sick and corrupted weapon for the left.

They get control of the DOJ - look at higgardly and obaMao commie. Look at holder and lynch.

They get control of the social media - look at that fiasco.

They get control of the msm - yep. you betcha it is in the tank for the left - the left owns it.

on and on it goes.

It's a sociological movement that has created a large sub-culture in America that hates America.

No, they won't admit it. They just demand unlimited murder of born and unborn children, demand that conservatives lose their GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, they demand everything.

It seems that this movement attracts flies like a dead fish on a shore.

we just HAVE to re-elect Pres Trump and get the House back. Enough of their garbage hate crap.

"and now, you know.......the rest of the story"

 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Thanks Paul Harvey.

[D Bone]

As a newbie down here in the dark and scary bowels, I appreciate a good bedtime story.  

[MLD Woody]

If you look up revisionist history in the dictionary it'll show a picture of this post. 

I especially enjoyed how Me T was made out to be the hero. A lot of Christopher Columbus vibes there. 

 

Fyi, I've never PM'd a mod about shutting down the political thread. I have openly/publicly called for it to be shut down many times. #NukeThePoliBoard

 

Also, I like how @hoorta and I apparently became best friends in a matter of days haha

[calfoxwc]

T wasn't a hero, never said that. T screwed up out of being harrassed and screwed with, and he went over the edge of acceptability and ended up gone. That's all. I never said "pm'd".  Hoorta did.

The left wants it shut down so they can go over and have a lot more nasty leftwing company to talk politics with - I suppose they would be a controlling dominant minor majority. Maybe.

It happened before, THAT IS WHY THIS FORUM EXISTS. I never said "best friends" in my post.

[hoorta]

3 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

T wasn't a hero, never said that. T screwed up out of being harrassed and screwed with, and he went over the edge of acceptability and ended up gone. That's all. I never said "pm'd".  Hoorta did.

The left wants it shut down so they can go over and have a lot more nasty leftwing company to talk politics with - I suppose they would be a controlling dominant minor majority. Maybe.

It happened before, THAT IS WHY THIS FORUM EXISTS. I never said "best friends" in my post.

Cal- just maybe once you could admit there's different legitimate points of view, and stop with the right wing conspiracy crap. You're 100% blind- and ignored the fact saying that I'm some bad guy for pointing out Trump's Tweets are 90% hateful spew? There's so much more to dislike about the guy, but it's a total waste of time me typing it out, because I've seen it- at least and probably more than a dozen times you guys won't believe it because you're living in Trump's amazing fantasy world. BTW, just to reiterate,  I have no, zero respect for someone who does that on a regular basis? I'll support Trump when he grows the f**k up.... BTW- Fox has an agenda just as much as CNN does. So who do you want to believe? I can only go by what my eyes are telling me..... 

PS please stop the crap that anyone who dislikes Trump is some sort of liberal. Or did you pick that one up in one of Trump's many lies?  That BTW, you refuse to admit they even exist. 

 

[calfoxwc]

1 minute ago, hoorta said:

Cal- just maybe once you could admit there's different legitimate points of view, and stop with the right wing conspiracy crap. You're 100% blind- and ignored the fact saying that I'm some bad guy for pointing out Trump's Tweets are 90% hateful spew? There's so much more to dislike about the guy, but it's a total waste of time me typing it out, because I've seen it- at least and probably more than a dozen times you guys won't believe it because you're living in Trump's amazing fantasy world. BTW, just to reiterate,  I have no, zero respect for someone who does that on a regular basis? I'll support Trump when he grows the f**k up.... BTW- Fox has an agenda just as much as CNN does. So who do you want to believe? I can only go by what my eyes are telling me..... 

A. of course there are legit different points of view. However, you never once criticized obaMao for eight years, and the years afterwards. That is NOT legit. Your criticisms are fine with Pres Trump - but you criticize based on hate, no particular reason. I asked you for ONE LEGIT example of your claims against him, and you didn't. won't.

B. therefore, it is the bias you won't let go of. I criticize Pres Trump's tweets too. He says some things that are very easily taken wrong? and cringe worthy. But I also admit what he is DOING FOR OUR COUNTRY, and you won't.

C. You bash him for his tweets, but you won't admit the
GREAT things he has done. That makes no sense at all. Perhaps you would rather have a smooth talking dishonest politician that lies to get into office, works against our 2nd Amendment, criticizes our Constitution, throws America and the American people under the bus around the world... can you hear me now?

D. Fox does not have an agenda - you see hard core liberals all over. Different points of view all over. You will NOT see that on CNN. Pitiful defense attempt of your CNN.

E. What right wing conspiracy crap are you referring to? the deep state? it isn't crap. Big serious trouble?

it's happening now. 2 year old fake investigation based on a fake DNC/FBI dossier? Found nothin?

How about you stop with defending the entire "get Pres Trump" crap, because the evidence is right there. The emails are right there. the actions are right there. Former FBI agents say it is. Brennan, clapper, all the rest - can't wait for them to end up in prison for the garbage they did.

F. Look, you don't like being disagreed with. I got that with the Rosen fiasco. But I was right and you can't handle the truth.

G. Read A-G and Have a Nice Day and God Bless.

[Bob806]

15 minutes ago, hoorta said:

 

PS please stop the crap that anyone who dislikes Trump is some sort of liberal.

 

That's the "go to" for right wingers in today's world. If you're not right of center, you're deemed a liberal. 

As for this forum, I don't frequent it nearly as often as I used to. There's enough division on the news, Twitter, FB, etc so I decided to shy away from here. 

Go Browns

[Vambo]

4 hours ago, D Bone said:

As a newbie down here in the dark and scary bowels, I appreciate a good bedtime story.  

Once upon a time a dragon hag named Nancy Pelosi  was handed a gavel she used it to do evil things to the people in her land and she teamed up with Shifty Schiff they kept scheming to overthrow the great President Trump but would always fail...

 

[Ibleedbrown]

This side of the board is bizarre as fuck. I usually just end up getting bewildered and sheepishly saunter off.

I guess it’s like sports where people get caught up in the minutia of things, except instead of discussing a QB’s 3rd down completion percentage in 12 personnel in the red zone, it’s discussions about who said what in 1983 vs what they said yesterday. 

Not my thing at all but I suppose it’s good to have so you people who enjoy this stuff can chase your tails. 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

13 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said:

This side of the board is bizarre as fuck. I usually just end up getting bewildered and sheepishly saunter off.

I guess it’s like sports where people get caught up in the minutia of things, except instead of discussing a QB’s 3rd down completion percentage in 12 personnel in the red zone, it’s discussions about who said what in 1983 vs what they said yesterday. 

Not my thing at all but I suppose it’s good to have so you people who enjoy this stuff can chase your tails. 

And your still an asswipe, and no one cares what you think.  

[Ibleedbrown]

23 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Once upon a time a dragon hag named Nancy Pelosi  was handed a gavel she used it to do evil things to the people in her land and she teamed up with Shifty Schiff they kept scheming to overthrow the great President Trump but would always fail...

 

This is a fine example. Thank you Vambo.

So you got divisive politicians doing divisive politician shit, throw in a dragon judge reference and some jive Wile E Coyote themed photo and an over the top good vs evil narrative, and wala! You got some really really wierd shit to read. 

[Ibleedbrown]

1 minute ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

And your still an asswipe, and no one cares what you think.  

That’s fair. I’m definitely out of my element here. When was the first time l was an asswipe though?

[FairHooker11]

4 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

And your still an asswipe, and no one cares what you think.  

real classy that....

 

[The Cysko Kid]

36 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said:

That’s fair. I’m definitely out of my element here. When was the first time l was an asswipe though?

That guy is just a flat out troll. Don't waste your breath. 

[TexasAg1969]

Cal you seem to be making the point for getting rid of the board with all that crap you just spewed out. A lot of emotional garbage there for a guy who says he isn't emotional.  

"That is how the left rolls. In emotion."        Oh really?   Then what was that whole post above to start this thread?

 

[hammertime]

Wow.

that would be the liberal calling card through and through to get rid of this board.

how will you guys gloat when you finally win?

 

 

[MLD Woody]

35 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Cal you seem to be making the point for getting rid of the board with all that crap you just spewed out. A lot of emotional garbage there for a guy who says he isn't emotional.  

"That is how the left rolls. In emotion."        Oh really?   Then what was that whole post above to start this thread?

 

That's one of my favorite things

 

* "Liberals are too emotional!" he said emotionally *

[hoorta]

7 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

A. of course there are legit different points of view. However, you never once criticized obaMao for eight years, and the years afterwards. That is NOT legit. Your criticisms are fine with Pres Trump - but you criticize based on hate, no particular reason. I asked you for ONE LEGIT example of your claims against him, and you didn't. won't.

B. therefore, it is the bias you won't let go of. I criticize Pres Trump's tweets too. He says some things that are very easily taken wrong? and cringe worthy. But I also admit what he is DOING FOR OUR COUNTRY, and you won't.

C. You bash him for his tweets, but you won't admit the
GREAT things he has done. That makes no sense at all. Perhaps you would rather have a smooth talking dishonest politician that lies to get into office, works against our 2nd Amendment, criticizes our Constitution, throws America and the American people under the bus around the world... can you hear me now?

D. Fox does not have an agenda - you see hard core liberals all over. Different points of view all over. You will NOT see that on CNN. Pitiful defense attempt of your CNN.

E. What right wing conspiracy crap are you referring to? the deep state? it isn't crap. Big serious trouble?

it's happening now. 2 year old fake investigation based on a fake DNC/FBI dossier? Found nothin?

How about you stop with defending the entire "get Pres Trump" crap, because the evidence is right there. The emails are right there. the actions are right there. Former FBI agents say it is. Brennan, clapper, all the rest - can't wait for them to end up in prison for the garbage they did.

F. Look, you don't like being disagreed with. I got that with the Rosen fiasco. But I was right and you can't handle the truth.

G. Read A-G and Have a Nice Day and God Bless.

A ,B :  I have damn good reasons to criticize Trump, (as do a few dozen other respected commentators- starting with George Will. That you lemming Cal had to bash- because he's not smooching up up to Trump's BS anymore....  and they (and my) opinions are NOT based on hate. Sorry Mr. Conspiracy theory. Then STFU with your Obama bashing...  OK?  I said Trump did around two great things for the USA- that Pence easily could have done- without being an asshole. Got it? probably not. PS- Trump has nothing BUT hate for people who disagree with him, but the MAGAs are too blind to see that....  

C  But  OTOH rather have a politician (make that carnival barker, thanks Mr. Bloomberg)  that treats Congressional subpoenas like toilet paper, and busts up a peaceful protest so he can do a phony photo op...

D FOX doesn't have an agenda? Damn- hell's bells maybe from your alternate reality POV, not mine... Reich is a tad too liberal for my tastes- but he called FOX out for their BS- but you lap up every word as Gospel.... 

Finally- you snowflake Trumptards can't stand being disagreed with, and will  go to any lengths to concoct defenses for DT's many failures. I just may go all Ghoolie on you and start posting your daily Bernie\AOC crap to get a little balance around here. 

PS- I had a chat with Steve about the previous Moderator. Would you like me to take over from the other side of the fence? You'd all be gone within a month.

So say it loud and say it proud... Trump is a scumbag, but I like his agenda.....  And don't try the lame comeback- but Biden and the Democrats are worse... There- I already anticipated your BS....  

 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

6 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said:

That’s fair. I’m definitely out of my element here. When was the first time l was an asswipe though?

Sorry.  I didn't mean to respond to you, it was meant for someone else.😎

[Westside Steve]

The board June 2020
So here’s what I think. First and foremost if you don’t like it here this absolutely no reason for you to log on and read the opinions of people you disagree with. If it frustrates you or angers you why do it? If you don’t care about politics why bother? I hate basketball so I never log on to the Cavs board. But if I did like basketball and I was a Pistons fan how stupid would it be for me to keep demanding that they take down the Cavs board? Or the high school football board? That’s kind of a waste of time because everybody here went to a different High School. I don’t care about the Mentor st. Ignatius game. I care about the Carrollton Minerva game, or the Norton Wadsworth  game . Nobody else does. So should I demand the board be taken down?
Here’s another example. If you don’t like liver, don’t order it when you go to the restaurant. If you do order it and then bitch about every bite you take and demand it be taken off the menu, you’re an idiot.
This is politics there are some people that like politician Smith and some people who like politician Jones and for that reason they hate the other one. The Browns board it’s not comprised of both Steelers and Browns fans. If it was it would be just as rancorous is this place. Worse I would imagine.
Mr. T was a terrible moderator even though I probably agreed with him on most subjects politically. He was constantly deleting posts from the left and giving them warning points or booting them off. I don’t do that. I expect everybody to be man enough to deal with the people that don’t agree with them. 
But even though I have my own political opinions it’s not my job to punish the people you disagree with no matter who you are. I don’t love Trump and I don’t hate Obama. And I know that bothers some people.
On the board and in  Society it seems to me that it’s usually the left who wants the opposition shut down. It’s usually the left who shout down speakers that don’t agree with them on college campuses attitude really people on the left who demand that people on the right be kicked off this board or the board shut down.
That being said there are things on this board that annoy me, some of the guys just post too much shit for anybody to read or care about. Some guy think it’s funny to troll everyone a dozen times a day. Some guys get just too damn nasty with each other. Some guys spend too much time crying that some other guys are picking on them. 
I checked the Browns store and I couldn’t find any of these but I think it would be a proper item of clothing for a lot of people. Maybe we should contract a sports attire company to make some brown and orange big boy pants.
WSS

[Axe]

Somehow, this seems fitting in this thread..

 

[TexasAg1969]

And some post shit on here as gospel while assuring everyone that if you don't buy it you are an un-American sombeach who hates our country. It gets tiresome 

and reflects poorly on the BB as a football board. To defend that with the BIG Boy Pants BS is just that. There are fiscal conservatives just like me (and hoorta) who

have a strong belief that this president was a disaster well before COVID or the recent police killings. The constant TDS and UnAmerican BS is not an argument, it's a

personal attack meant to deflect from people listening to an opposing opinion and should be treated as such. People should not just have to stay away because they don't 

like that aspect, because when that has happened then it has been a trump board and nothing more. I left for a short time until others with opinions different from that

came over and started posting again and got "the treatment" for doing so. That's what it is.

[Westside Steve]

50 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And some post shit on here as gospel while assuring everyone that if you don't buy it you are an un-American sombeach who hates our country. It gets tiresome 

 then don't read it. Besides MSNBC New York Times MSN Yahoo news Etc print shitt the people pretend is gospel. So what?

and reflects poorly on the BB as a football board. To defend that with the BIG Boy Pants BS is just that. There are fiscal conservatives just like me (and hoorta) who

let me finish that sentence. Who are voting for the least fiscally conservative people in the world because Trump is rude.

have a strong belief that this president was a disaster well before COVID or the recent police killings. The constant TDS and UnAmerican BS is not an argument, it's a

personal attack

 

 at least half the posts you make are personal attacks. And spare me the fiscal conservative routine if you're voting for Hillary and Joe Biden.

meant to deflect from people listening to an opposing opinion and should be treated as such. People should not just have to stay away because they don't 

like

 yes they should. There's absolutely no need for you to be here if you aren't happy. Same with anybody on the right reading your personal attacks on a daily basis. But I understand. You want people punished whose personal attacks aren't the same as your personal attacks.

that aspect, because when that has happened then it has been a trump board and nothing more. I left for a short time until others with opinions different from that

 what do you do any differently? Seriously?

came over and started posting again and got "the treatment" for doing so. That's what it is.

 by the way at yiur age you might check and see if depends makes a version of the big boy pants.

😏

 

[Vambo]

Left's playbook

1.  Accuse Racism ( Racist, bot, Alt )

2. Deny your right to speak   ( close forum )

3. Using the mob mentality ( I left for a short time until others with opinions different from that  )

4. Play the victim  ( those mean Trump supporters posts things hurt our feelings )

5. Appeal to authority fallacy   ( CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, MSN, Yahoo ) 

[Ibleedbrown]

7 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Sorry.  I didn't mean to respond to you, it was meant for someone else.😎

Ah, no worries. Cysco was right, a little light trolling on my part. I’ll try not to make a habit of it. 

I vote, l try to be informed, so l have an interest in the goings on in govt. I have my near and dear ideologies like anyone else, some in the liberal realm and some conservative, and l seek out nuggets of pertinent information to those ends. 

That’s a small percentage of what goes on here though in my very very limited experience. The majority of it seems to be a battle royale of Dog shit vs. Cow shit, and the lengths that some of you will go to convince others that one is better than the other is at best a waste of time. But the level of commitment is evident. And that, to me, is wierd. 

To relate it to football, it’s like someone trying to convince me that l’m not a Browns fan. My initial reaction would be “Ok, but do you need me for this?” 

I thought the purpose of this post was a perceived notion that there was a push to remove the political board, and l am not in favor of that. I don’t put much faith in politicians, but those that do need an outlet, so why not here? 

Perhaps an alternate solution, how about TWO political boards? The lefty and the righty boards. So instead of one big awkward and badly synchronized circle jerk, you could have two smooth operating circle jerks where the participants can stroke each other the way they like it?

[hoorta]

4 hours ago, Vambo said:

Left's playbook

1.  Accuse Racism ( Racist, bot, Alt )

2. Deny your right to speak   ( close forum )

3. Using the mob mentality ( I left for a short time until others with opinions different from that  )

4. Play the victim  ( those mean Trump supporters posts things hurt our feelings )

5. Appeal to authority fallacy   ( CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, MSN, Yahoo ) 

Glad that's what you think.... But in regard to #5- then don't go dragging up Fox or Red State as Gospel either... If you don't like leftist media. That was the main reason I posted the Robert Reich video- there's political propaganda coming from both sides of the spectrum.  

Re: #4- Talk about hurt feelings. Your good old President sure loves to play the victim that those media folks are out to get him.   

[calfoxwc]

13 hours ago, hoorta said:

A ,B :  I have damn good reasons to criticize Trump, (as do a few dozen other respected commentators- starting with George Will. That you lemming Cal had to bash- because he's not smooching up up to Trump's BS anymore....  and they (and my) opinions are NOT based on hate. Sorry Mr. Conspiracy theory. Then STFU with your Obama bashing...  OK?  I said Trump did around two great things for the USA- that Pence easily could have done- without being an asshole. Got it? probably not. PS- Trump has nothing BUT hate for people who disagree with him, but the MAGAs are too blind to see that....  

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     Odd, you never give reasons, you just bash him for tweets, and ignore ALL THE GREAT THINGS PRES TRUMP HAS DONE FOR AMERICA. Logically, I would think an American that wasn't all self-centered - would vote for the best president to do GREAT THINGS FOR AMERICA. that is PRESTRUMP. You can't handle the truth, that's all. You libs knee jerk over emotions, instead of just admitting Pres Trump is annoying, but admitting HE HAS DONE GREAT THINGS FOR AMERICA. and you biden has done nothing. Fixed zero problems.

You do a lot of name calling for a mod that doesn't like name-calling.

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C  But  OTOH rather have a politician (make that carnival barker, thanks Mr. Bloomberg)  that treats Congressional subpoenas like toilet paper, and busts up a peaceful protest so he can do a phony photo op...

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     Congressional - you mean corrupt -try to destroy Pres Trump because HE won the election subpoenas? That is what I mean. You blabber about those subpoenas when all they were were political corrupt theater by your dems.

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D FOX doesn't have an agenda? Damn- hell's bells maybe from your alternate reality POV, not mine... Reich is a tad too liberal for my tastes- but he called FOX out for their BS- but you lap up every word as Gospel.... 

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    No, you don't watch Fox. Fox has had Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel, many  exteme liberals on the network. CNN has.....none.  And lapping up every word, AHAHAHAHA, nice slur that means nothing because you can't handle the truth.

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Finally- you snowflake Trumptards can't stand being disagreed with, and will  go to any lengths to concoct defenses for DT's many failures. I just may go all Ghoolie on you and start posting your daily Bernie\AOC crap to get a little balance around here. 

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     I haven't mentioned your Sanders or your heartthrob AOC for a long time now.

I'm happy to be disagreed with - but the constant slurring with no legit reason is annoying, I simply call out fake outrage and hateful slurs with ZERO evidence behind them...for what they are.

Knee jerkie. YOU are the one who can't stand to be disagreed with. You got pissed because your Josh Rosen sucked, after bitching about me saying as often as you rosen lovers dissed Josh Allen, that he  Josh Allen was going to succeed. And your josh rosen is doomed, apparently, to be on his third team.

"Trumptards" ? "snowflake"?"lemming" ? from you, who "says" he doesn't like the name calling?

really now. lol. That is true TDS.

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PS- I had a chat with Steve about the previous Moderator. Would you like me to take over from the other side of the fence? You'd all be gone within a month.

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    Yes, we would all be gone because you can NOT STAND for being disagreed with. And you demand we stop posting "right wing conspiracies" ??? really now? we'd already all be gone because we are conversative, and you mad that WE ELECTED PRES TRUMP? and are DANG PROUD OF IT?

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So say it loud and say it proud... Trump is a scumbag, but I like his agenda.....  And don't try the lame comeback- but Biden and the Democrats are worse... There- I already anticipated your BS....  

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     You learned something, despite the hate. Good.

 

[calfoxwc]

hey, Hoorta ! check this out:

  https://www.foxnews.com/media/deplorables-comedy-brandon-tatum

the video is outstanding! you have to join Fox. lol

 

[Vambo]

50 minutes ago, hoorta said:

Glad that's what you think.... But in regard to #5- then don't go dragging up Fox or Red State as Gospel either... If you don't like leftist media. That was the main reason I posted the Robert Reich video- there's political propaganda coming from both sides of the spectrum.  

Re: #4- Talk about hurt feelings. Your good old President sure loves to play the victim that those media folks are out to get him.   

Why does everything have to be about Trump?   TDS  This is about this board Trump has nothing to do with it grow up about him already.