Trump will be pissed when he loses in November, lol.

[hoorta]

6 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

Hoorta  - you are one who keeps slashing the idea of building the wall with the cnn/msnbc "xenophobe" slur.

I've posted the gigantic problem of central american gangs and drug running by cartels.

if that doesn't make you happy, then support the freaking wall.

  I've posted before, about  I'm find with you not liking Pres Trump.

But being all wet in EGYPT and denying he's KEPT HIS PROMISES unlike obaMao, whose ass YOU ALL kissed

for eight years....

    I'm not a fan, wasn't a fan of Trump. But he is being a GREAT REAL AMERICAN P:RESIDENT, unlike the obamao commie you

never criticized around here for eight years.

   And, btw, MAGA dominates? only because it is legit. After two years of lefties lol that Trump was going to get impeached,

it was ALL A FREAKING ILLEGAL COUP ATTEMPT LIKE WE TOLD YOU ALL.

   There isn't any "kissing ass" - there's ADMITTING HE IS KEEPING HIS PROMISES. Stop ignoring that.

Your obaMao commie LIED FOR EIGHT YEARS.

But, annoying as you find him, sometimes we do too -

he is being a REAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT:

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/trump-releases-list-of-60-promises-kept-media-ignores

US News

    he Department of the Treasury has issued a range of sanctions targeting Iranian activities and entities, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force.

    Under President Trump, the United States has led an unprecedented global campaign to achieve the peaceful denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

    President Trump’s leadership has contributed to the return of 17 Americans held overseas.

    In May 2018 alone, Venezuela released one American and North Korea released three Americans who came home to the United States.

    The President has secured historic increases in defense funding in order to rebuild our Nation’s military with the resources they need, after years of harmful sequester.

    President Trump signed legislation to provide $700 billion in defense spending for fiscal year (FY) 2018 and $716 billion for FY 2019.

    The United States has worked with international allies to decimate ISIS.

    President Trump ordered strikes against Syria in response to the regime’s use of chemical weapons in April 2017 and April 2018.

    The Trump Administration has imposed a range of sanctions on the Maduro dictatorship in Venezuela, including sanctions targeting Maduro and other senior government officials.

AMERICA’S COMMUNITIES ARE SAFER AND MORE SECURE: President Trump has worked to secure our borders, enforce our immigration laws, and protect the safety and security of American communities.

    Despite limited resources and obstruction from Congress, President Trump has worked to take control of our border and enforce our immigration laws.

    President Trump has called on Congress to provide the resources needed to secure our borders and close loopholes that prevent immigration laws from being fully enforced.

    President Trump authorized the deployment of the National Guard to help secure our borders.

    President Trump’s Administration has carried out immigration enforcement efforts based on the rule of law.

    From the start of President Trump’s Administration to the end of FY 2017, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) made 110,568 arrests of illegal aliens.

    Arrests made in this timeframe represented a 42 percent increase from the same timeframe in FY 2016.

    Of the 110,568 arrests made, 92 percent had a criminal conviction, pending criminal charge, were an ICE fugitive, or had a reinstated final order of removal.

    President Trump has made clear that his Administration will continue to combat the threat of MS-13 in order to protect communities from the horrendous violence the gang has spread.

    In 2017, the Department of Justice worked with partners in Central America to file criminal charges against more than 4,000 members of MS-13.

    The Trump Administration has cracked down on the import and distribution of illegal drugs in order to stop them from reaching our communities and causing even more devastation.

    As of April 2018, U.S. Border Patrol has seized 284 pounds of fentanyl in FY 2018, already surpassing the total of 181 pounds seized in FY 2017.

    The President has launched a nationwide effort to fight the opioid crisis, which has devastated communities across America.

    The President’s Opioid Initiative seeks to reduce drug demand, cut off the flow of illicit drugs, and save lives by expanding treatment opportunities.

    President Trump signed an omnibus spending bill which provides nearly $4 billion to address the opioid epidemic.

    The bill included $1 billion for grants focused on the hardest hit States and Tribes and provided funding for a public-private research partnership on pain and addiction.

AMERICA’S GOVERNMENT IS MORE ACCOUNTABLE: Since taking office, President Trump has worked to ensure government is more accountable to the American people.

    President Trump has confirmed the most circuit court judges of any President in their first year, and secured Justice Neil Gorsuch’s confirmation to the United States Supreme Court.

    President Trump has signed legislation to bring more accountability to the Department of Veterans Affairs and provide our veterans with more choice in the care they receive.

    President Trump signed the Department of Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of 2017, improving processes for addressing misconduct.

    President Trump signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act into law, authorizing $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.

    President Trump successfully eliminated the penalty for Obamacare’s burdensome individual mandate.

    The President’s Administration is seeking to provide more affordable health coverage and broader access to affordable alternatives to Obamacare plans.

    President Trump has released a blueprint to lower drug prices for Americans.

    President Trump has ensured that the religious liberties and conscience of Americans are protected and respected by the Federal government.

    President Trump signed an Executive Order to protect the free speech and religious liberties of groups such as the Little Sisters of

    The Department of Justice issued guidance to all executive agencies on protecting religious liberty in federal programs.

 

OK, he's done some good Cal- I'm not denying that. And in all humility, I'm out of my element here. I don't spend hours every day glued to Fox, Hannity, Rush- or for that matter CNN either endlessly researching stuff. But as it got pointed out, my vote will count every bit as much as the most hard core weapon toting Covid protester screaming to "give me liberty, and give me death" LOL.  The D-niers still think Trump has a world of support, when in reality- he doesn't. He lost the popular vote, and except for some razor thin <100,000 votes total margins in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan- you'd be having fun railing against very crooked Hillary. From my POV- not very smart Donald  bitching against Gretchen of late- even your supporters think you're being a royal dumb ass with that tactic. He's already dug in a solid blue 100 vote electoral vote hole, flip a couple of those swing states, and he's toast.  

However getting back OT, I do incredibly respect George Will, who's forgotten more about politics than I'll ever know in a couple of lifetimes. His op-ed piece from the same day of Pitts'- went all the way back to the 1960 election where Kennedy claimed- "we can do better." And I sincerely believe that. But I sure as shit don't want "The Squad" mentality taking over either, but if you can't see which way the pendulum is swinging, you're blind to it. 

It's as I said elsewhere Cal- it's not totally all about politics either- far from it. In this case- personality is "Trumping" pun intentional- politics. Trump's asshole personality is far overriding whatever he's done on a positive note. Just accept that. You ought to know from my posting over on the Browns Forum I try to be as objective as possible, see both sides of an issue. That's something hard core MAGAs around here fail to see.  OK, call the other side  "hathas" TDS if you will- they long ago tired of Trumps smirking condescending attitude, grade school taunts, lying out his ass, and a few other miscellaneous things that make him not very likable to say the least- from an opposing POV. 

And one word about the piling on here about Biden's accusers. Groping a woman against her will, or having an extramarital affair are as immoral whether they happened as a government official or as a private citizen. IIRC Trump even bragged about it. Donald's dalliances got swept under the rug, or he just might have tried to pay his accusers off like he did with Stormy. Of course- THAT  never happened. The Trumptards who somehow now are claiming the high moral ground- at least in this instance, are as deranged as the MAGAs claiming I have a bad case of TDS. (which I don't BTW)  Does that mean if the allegations against Biden are true, he's a sleazeball, and the Democrats are covering for him? Sure. But, don't go calling Joe a sleazeball when Trump is no better in that regard. FWIW, Donald is pulling out the tactic that worked so well in 2016. Be sure to pull up as much dirt as possible on the opposing candidate.  

 

  

[MLD Woody]

9 hours ago, htownbrown said:

Idk, calling people racist when they don't like your policies or actions seems way worse than labeling someone with TDS.

I'm not saying which is "worse". I actually didn't even bring up people using the race card in his thread. In the thread I did though the point was that they serve the same objective. 

[Westside Steve]

15 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

I'm not saying which is "worse". I actually didn't even bring up people using the race card in his thread. In the thread I did though the point was that they serve the same objective. 

Sort of like that a spanking and bashing a child's head in with a ball back wrapped in barbed wire serves the same purpose. Got it.

WSS

[calfoxwc]

9 hours ago, hoorta said:

It's as I said elsewhere Cal- it's not totally all about politics either- far from it. In this case- personality is "Trumping" pun intentional- politics. Trump's asshole personality is far overriding whatever he's done on a positive note. Just accept that. You ought to know from my posting over on the Browns Forum I try to be as objective as possible, see both sides of an issue.

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   That's nice - over there. Over here, it's "xenophobe parrot slur, kissing Trump's ass slur.....and your post in response started out so nice. lol

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That's something hard core MAGAs around here fail to see.  OK, call the other side  "hathas" TDS if you will- they long ago tired of Trumps smirking condescending attitude, grade school taunts, lying out his ass, and a few other miscellaneous things that make him not very likable to say the least- from an opposing POV. 

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    If you don't want anybody to Make America Great Again, explain why. Pres Trump IS working on that every day, like he promised. You liberals need to LISTEN - I didn't like Trump early on. I called him a "circus barker" etc. But later on, I started listening to him - he doesn't need money or power. He genuinely wanted to protect America from the corruption going on. And yes, he isn't all that likeable. Obamao was very likeable. He was a smooth liar, pretty enough for old sheply to want to give great big smoochies to - (woodpecker may still be on the fence on that one?)... but here is an honest point I want to make.

       It makes liberals HAPPY (emotionally) to embrace any corrupt dem. Because they talk smooth and pretty. And then they end up finding out that they are scumbags. You know what I mean. That is to say ' SCUMBAGS BY THEIR LIES AND FAILURE TO KEEP THEIR PRETTY PROMISES.

      I don't want a freaking pretty president - we needed a man who was tough enough to withstand the poisoned slings and arrows of a deliberately hostile media, a sick and twisted, out of control liberal coke pink sickness mob in the MSM and way too many voters across our country.

     We support Pres Trump not for his looks, or skin color ("orange man bad") - it was going to take a rebel, OUTSIDE of deep state washington -- a tough enough pres to not be railroaded and kept quiet.

     Complain all you want about his aggravating tweets, etc etc etc. I get that. BUT you all never complain about the leftist msm and corrupt dems in congress who have screwed our country over for years, and who launched a SICK FRAUD bunch of FAKE investigations. Like into Gen. Flynn. Some of your cohorts around here- BITCHED like little haha bad girls about some of us realizing that mattis, kelly, and mccain were included in the deep state corrupt swamp sombetiches club. Because they were veterans.

     Well - Gen. Flynn is a veteran too. You hear anyone of them defend Gen. Flynn? The evidence is now in - he was illegally set up and railroaded to get at Pres Trump. And strzok/mistress Lisa Page? THEY modified documents to keep the investigation of Gen. Flynn OPEN after the FBI decided he didn't do ANYTHING WRONG. Get it? That is the corrupt deep state you all ignore.

That is TDS. That is emotional knee jerking, Hoorta. Those who backed mattis and kelly and mccain simply because they were VETERANS - but they won't back Gen. Flynn. HYPOCRISY. and Emotionally oriented CONTRADICTIONS.

And strzok/page did it with director comey's blessing. and Priestap wrote the bombshell handwritten notes - talking about why? to get Flynn to lie, or get him fired, because Gen Flynn wasn't one of them.

  Strzok/page/comey/brennan/clapper/mueller etc etc etc ... are now in very stinking deep doo doo, Hoorta. It's all coming out.

Oh, and FBI dir Christoper Wray? He is in serious crap, too. He may have known all this all along and covered it up.

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And one word about the piling on here about Biden's accusers. Groping a woman against her will, or having an extramarital affair are as immoral whether they happened as a government official or as a private citizen. IIRC Trump even bragged about it.

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     Partly true - Trump bragged about what people in power can get away with. See the clintons, bidens, - except every single complaint about Trump and Kavanaugh, my opinion, came from hostile liberal witnesses with no backup to their story.

     The complaints about Biden are from DEMOCRATS who reported it BACK THEN and there is plenty of LEGIT PROOF.

    The point is, it's wrong- and you prove it legitimately - throw the guilty parties in jail. I think we all would hate to be politicians and have some nutjob come out of the woodwork and lie about us in that regard, over political differences.

I don't know the truth. and stormy daniels isn't one of those, she alleges she had an affair. Who knows. But she extorted ? money out of him to keep quiet, then apparently ran out of money and went public with it. That stinks of lies in the first place.

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Donald's dalliances got swept under the rug, or he just might have tried to pay his accusers off like he did with Stormy.

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     His accusers only came forward after he went into politics, I think. I'm waiting for one dishonest lib to show up around here and bash JFK for the same thing - running around with women. and I admired JFK. He was a great PRESIDENT.

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Of course- THAT  never happened. The Trumptards who somehow now are claiming the high moral ground- at least in this instance, are as deranged as the MAGAs claiming I have a bad case of TDS. (which I don't BTW)  Does that mean if the allegations against Biden are true, he's a sleazeball, and the Democrats are covering for him? Sure. But, don't go calling Joe a sleazeball when Trump is no better in that regard. FWIW, Donald is pulling out the tactic that worked so well in 2016. Be sure to pull up as much dirt as possible on the opposing candidate.

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    I repeat - there you go with calling all Pres Trump supporters "Retarded". Where is YOUR high moral ground, dangit?

THAT is TDS. I don't defend Trump in his pre politician life. I don't know if those accusers were legit, but the timing is suspicious. Ford's fake testimony blew up in her face - there was ZERO corroboration from her own alleged "witnesses".

GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT? no - not you TDSers. Except when it's somebody who is a REPUBLICAN you don't find likeable.

    Come on now. Kavanaugh's accusers were glaringly liars and leftwing haters. So were Pres Trump's.

Biden's accusers - complained way back then - they have the documentation, Hoorta. THEY can prove that they are telling the truth.

   Big difference. That won't be admitted by the TDS crowd.

 

[hoorta]

2 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

 

And with that, I'll just leave it at that. You have your POV, I have mine. Oh, there's  plenty of  libtard name calling,  so I  took the  liberty of using the  reverse. 

[calfoxwc]

41 minutes ago, hoorta said:

And with that, I'll just leave it at that. You have your POV, I have mine. Oh, there's  plenty of  libtard name calling,  so I  took the  liberty of using the  reverse. 

fair enough, but I have never once ever said it. I don't take kindly to it - my Wife taught special ed - most of those kids don't deserve the slur about their learning disabilities. That's just me.