Vambo Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Media mystified as America rallies behind President Trump during coronavirus crisis By Post Editorial BoardApril 4, 2020 | 8:43pm https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/media-mystified-as-us-rallies-behind-trump-amid-coronavirus-crisis/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1-L3biiDFS-UtzFAXjE0db1R0cK5ltr_ISgAE7_loIEn5etpS01JY8r84 For decades, Americans have rallied behind their president in time of crisis, so it’s no mystery that President Trump’s approval ratings are up. Except, that is, to anti-Trump obsessives — including much of the media. “Who Are the Voters Behind Trump’s Higher Approval Rating?” a New York Times headline asked last week. That is: Who could possibly think he’s doing a good job — when no one at the Times does? The paper notes that Trump’s positives, at 49 percent, are “as high as ever,” with independents and even some Democrats driving the numbers up. And that comes “despite what most agree to be his slow response” (“most,” again, meaning most at the Times) as well as his ideas that “contradict” experts and his outright “falsehoods.” Memo to the Gray Lady: Those polls show that most Americans don’t think the president’s response has been horrific. (Didn’t the Times vow to pay more attention to middle America after the 2016 election?) They know the virus caught the entire world by surprise and is hugely difficult to tame. They appreciate his efforts to deal with it. And a good chunk of them like his way of talking, even if it drives newspeople up the wall. Yet much of the media can’t let go of their pre-crisis agenda — including their hatred of the prez, which persists unabated (blatantly on display in press briefings) even amid this national emergency. The Times wasn’t alone in its shock at the public response: MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell was utterly flabbergasted by polls showing his approval ratings among Democrats and independents “skyrocketing” to 60 percent for his handling of the crisis. “No matter what he says, people seem to be seeing him as a leader,” she gasped. (Oh, the horrors!) Her guest, Obama adviser Jim Messina, simply dismissed the numbers, advising: “I would reject all of the polls” as they’re sure to drop soon. Maybe they will: Heck, British voters opted to oust Winston Churchill as prime minister in 1945 despite an 83 percent approval rating just two months earlier for his wartime leadership. Then again, Joe Biden isn’t inspiring anyone these days. Though he’s surely getting plenty of rest, his comments from his basement refuge have been as addled as ever. Meanwhile, Americans will naturally keep hoping Trump gets the pandemic right. Who really cares if the media never give him credit for it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/can-donald-trump-win-reelection-despite-coronavirus-outbreak-n1174366 CORONAVIRUS Can Donald Trump win re-election despite the coronavirus outbreak? A look at what happened to presidents' approval ratings and campaigns for a second term during national crises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/can-donald-trump-win-reelection-despite-coronavirus-outbreak-n1174366 CORONAVIRUS Can Donald Trump win re-election despite the coronavirus outbreak? A look at what happened to presidents' approval ratings and campaigns for a second term during national crises. The Times wasn’t alone in its shock at the public response: MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell was utterly flabbergasted by polls showing his approval ratings among Democrats and independents “skyrocketing” to 60 percent for his handling of the crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldBrownsFan Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 I watched the coronavirus presser yesterday and some fake CNN journalist was annoying with over and over questioning why Trump is plugging hydroxychloroquine when he is not a doctor. Trump is doing the country a huge service by getting this information about hydroxychloroquine to the public. It is a well known FDA drug that as long as it is being prescribed by a medical doctor should present no harm to a patient using it and there is evidence it can make a difference in improvement for those with severe covid19 symptoms. A vaccine for the virus is over a year a way. We have little in our tool box to give those suffering with severe covid19 to help so why not try with the hydroxychloroquine? As Trump said what do you have to lose? At best you will be one of the success stories we see with those using hydroxychloroquine and at worst it will not help you but is not going to hurt you. The doctor who successfully treated 700 covid19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and zpac said the drugs cost about $20. How much does it cost to put a person on a ventilator? If there is a drug that might keep a covid19 patient from reaching the critical point of being placed on a ventilator with little risk for trying the drug why not try it? We have ample supplies of the drug and we can keep the hoarding problem at bay by common sense restrictions placed on doctors in prescribing the drug for covid19 patients. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Yep-a total mystery given all the BS he threw up on the public for way too long. And somehow he denies and escapes any responsibility for how bad it has gotten. So many paths not taken so many times that could have lessened the effects. This is making the rounds in the British Isles where they think America is just plain crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said: I watched the coronavirus presser yesterday and some fake CNN journalist was annoying with over and over questioning why Trump is plugging hydroxychloroquine when he is not a doctor. Trump is doing the country a huge service by getting this information about hydroxychloroquine to the public. It is a well known FDA drug that as long as it is being prescribed by a medical doctor should present no harm to a patient using it and there is evidence it can make a difference in improvement for those with severe covid19 symptoms. A vaccine for the virus is over a year a way. We have little in our tool box to give those suffering with severe covid19 to help so why not try with the hydroxychloroquine? As Trump said what do you have to lose? At best you will be one of the success stories we see with those using hydroxychloroquine and at worst it will not help you but is not going to hurt you. The doctor who successfully treated 700 covid19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and zpac said the drugs cost about $20. How much does it cost to put a person on a ventilator? If there is a drug that might keep a covid19 patient from reaching the critical point of being placed on a ventilator with little risk for trying the drug why not try it? We have ample supplies of the drug and we can keep the hoarding problem at bay by common sense restrictions placed on doctors in prescribing the drug for covid19 patients. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus Before it was even named COVID-19 chloroquine was recommended by The WHO in the beginning of Feb.... Posted on another thread, but since you brought it up: On February 4 — one week before the World Health Organization decided to officially name this virus “COVID-19” — the journal Cell Research posted a notice written by scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology about the virus, concluding, “our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, TexasAg1969 said: Yep-a total mystery given all the BS he threw up on the public for way too long. And somehow he denies and escapes any responsibility for how bad it has gotten. So many paths not taken so many times that could have lessened the effects. This is making the rounds in the British Isles where they think America is just plain crazy. Sigh...you too obviously missed the post about the top 10 media lies against Trump. You honestly think someone other than maybe Woody is gonna watch that video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Gorka said: Sigh...you too obviously missed the post about the top 10 media lies against Trump. You honestly think someone other than maybe Woody is gonna watch that video? What a video that shows trumpy speaking every date about covid-19? You just don't want to hear the truth from his own lips. There is no media lie in it, but there have been a lot of lies from trumpy which basically try to tell you he has understood and been on top of this from the beginning. It's called self serving propaganda. It works on people with closed brainwashed minds quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Vambo said: Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Yep-a total mystery given all the BS he threw up on the public for way too long. And somehow he denies and escapes any responsibility for how bad it has gotten. So many paths not taken so many times that could have lessened the effects. This is making the rounds in the British Isles where they think America is just plain crazy. What we have here is self serving propaganda from the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: What a video that shows trumpy speaking every date about covid-19? You just don't want to hear the truth from his own lips. There is no media lie in it, but there have been a lot of lies from trumpy which basically try to tell you he has understood and been on top of this from the beginning. It's called self serving propaganda. It works on people with closed brainwashed minds quite well. Your such a buffoon. Trump can only say what he has been told. On Jan 21, Dr. Fauci, Trumps chief advisor on the Coronavirus said this: This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” Dr. Fauci told Newsmax’s Greg Kelly on January 21. What the fuck do you think Trump should have said instead dickhead??? Trump didn't call the virus a hoax...he was calling out assholes like you who were politicizing it as "their new hoax". Fact checkers at The Washington Post, Snopes, PolitiFact and FacCheck.org have determined it is false to claim Trump called the coronavirus a hoax, The Hill reports. Trump's full quote was: "Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs, you say, 'How’s President Trump doing?' 'Oh, nothing, nothing.' They have no clue, they don’t have any clue...And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing." It's just amazing that people like you exist. A show of hand on who watched that video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 - I didn't watch it. I already know that he's tried to basically gaslight the public into thinking he's been all over this. It's plain as day if your head isn't up his ass - The NBC article shows past president's getting big boosts in approval rating during their own crises. If anything Trump's is lower than what would be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Gorka said: Your such a buffoon. Trump can only say what he has been told. On Jan 21, Dr. Fauci, Trumps chief advisor on the Coronavirus said this: This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” Dr. Fauci told Newsmax’s Greg Kelly on January 21. What the fuck do you think Trump should have said instead dickhead??? Trump didn't call the virus a hoax...he was calling out assholes like you who were politicizing it as "their new hoax". Fact checkers at The Washington Post, Snopes, PolitiFact and FacCheck.org have determined it is false to claim Trump called the coronavirus a hoax, The Hill reports. Trump's full quote was: "Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs, you say, 'How’s President Trump doing?' 'Oh, nothing, nothing.' They have no clue, they don’t have any clue...And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing." It's just amazing that people like you exist. A show of hand on who watched that video. You obviously did not watch the press conference when trumpy contradicted all his advisors who had just spoken on the stage in front of him when he said there were 15 cases that were going back to zero. He's a fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 OK. who the heck taught woody the "g" word??? ("gaslighting") stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/media/karen-whitsett-trump-hydroxychloroquine-saved-my-life Whitsett says that she has chronic Lyme disease and had heard of hydroxychloroquine but would not have thought of it as a potential coronavirus treatment if not for Trump's briefings. "If President Trump had not talked about this it wouldn't have been something that would be accessible for anyone to be able to get right now," she said, adding that within a few hours of taking her prescription, she was feeling much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 https://www.newsmax.com/politics/navarro-memo-deaths-pandemic/2020/04/07/id/961682/?ns_mail_uid=6d52df85-236f-4a8f-8332-d84fdb5d6ebf&ns_mail_job=DM102293_04072020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102mn0pff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/navarro-memo-deaths-pandemic/2020/04/07/id/961682/?ns_mail_uid=6d52df85-236f-4a8f-8332-d84fdb5d6ebf&ns_mail_job=DM102293_04072020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102mn0pff And who is the real flu pandemic expert but Dr. Fauci and what was he saying about the flu risk to our country in late January and February. He said it was minimal. I would also note Navarro was the one arguing with Fauci about hydroxychloriquiune and thank God we had Trump giving out valuable information about hydroxychloroquine at pressers and getting FDA approval while Faucci downplays the drug every chance he speaks about it. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-adviser-navarro-clashes-fauci-hydroxychloroquine-unproven-drug/story?id=70002207 https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/michigan-democrat-says-hydroxychloroquine-saved-her-life/ Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands Feb 17 2020 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Actually I agree with trumpy that someone very sick with COVID-19 has nothing to lose and should be allowed to volunteer to take the meds if they want to. They can sign a waiver for any adverse effects and roll the dice. It should be available as an option. Nothing better than a live guinea pig who doesn't mind volunteering for that role as long as they fully understand the risks involved with the medication in advance of agreement to take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: Actually I agree with trumpy that someone very sick with COVID-19 has nothing to lose and should be allowed to volunteer to take the meds if they want to. They can sign a waiver for any adverse effects and roll the dice. It should be available as an option. Nothing better than a live guinea pig who doesn't mind volunteering for that role as long as they fully understand the risks involved with the medication in advance of agreement to take it. The risks of hydroxychloroquine are very minimal when prescribed by a doctor and taking proper doses. It is a drug that has been used for decades with little problems. So on that side of the ledger there is little risk for taking it. As for it working the results have been promising but we haven't studied it enough yet to know for sure. I know this though if I had severe symptoms of covid19 and was staring at the prospect of being put on a ventilator I would want the option to at least try the hydroxychloroquine. We do know the prospects are not good for patients put on ventilators. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 https://abcnews.go.com/US/recovering-coronavirus-patient-talks-icu-experience-owe-life/story?id=70003513 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tour2ma Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 What's mysterious about the public rallying to a President in a time of crisis? It happened after 9/11 to "W". But here's the thing... the rallying does not last long and Trump is hastening the decline by turning his Covid Pressers into transparent "rallies". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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