DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 2,547 Confirmed Cases in Ohio 222 Number of ICU admissions 679 Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio 65 Number of Deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 US death toll at 5k. A little under 2 weeks into the real meat of the dinner =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 got this in an email from the township: this is serious crap. Like an invasion of an microscopic alien species 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 5:07 AM, OldBrownsFan said: OK our latest Trump Derangement Syndrome victim. To root against the success of this drug because Trump supported it is insanity but that is what TDS is. Fuck you... I'm not rooting against anything. I actually hope it works, but unlike you or your Dear Leader, I'm not going to raise anyone's hopes falsely. I'm banging on the door trying to wake you the fuck up. Fuck it... sleep well, OBF... hope your awakening is not a rude one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 11:58 AM, Gorka said: The unknown here is the ages of the 700 that have recovered. In the half of the interview I listened to the Dr. said he provides primary care to a Hasidic community where the average age is 15. Doesn't fill in the blank you raise, but does tip the likely demographics towards a younger population sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 12:26 AM, hoorta said: Sure, accurate on what we currently know. You're ignoring the very real possibility that there's tons of undiagnosed asymptomatic cases out there when we start doing mass screening. Already said - the way Italy is counting covid deaths is padding the stats from my POV. How much? Hard to say. USA- 160,000 cases 3,000 deaths 1.7%. Of diagnosed cases. I'm ignoring nothing. You can't ignore data that doesn't exist yet. Do I think it is likely that there are undiagnosed cases out there? Absolutely, but there are also likely unattributed deaths out there. Can't do a calculation using unknown data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 7:30 AM, MLD Woody said: You never answered Tour tho, are you an electrical engineer? On 3/31/2020 at 8:45 AM, Gorka said: Not at all. Earning a degree in any engineering field is not easy.. Although my job title is FSE...Field Service Engineer, I am not really an engineer, but my background is in electronics. I work for a company that manufactures equipment used mainly in medical research and diagnostics. I'm the one who bitches at engineers over the way they design the stuff.lol ChemE... we're the ones who bitch at Chemists about choosing the hardest routes to synthesize a compound.... Bastages, the lot of 'em... I agree that EEs use the most math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: ChemE... we're the ones who bitch at Chemists about choosing the hardest routes to synthesize a compound.... Bastages, the lot of 'em... I agree that EEs use the most math. Fargi g sneaky bastidges at that. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Fuck you... I'm not rooting against anything. I actually hope it works, but unlike you or your Dear Leader, I'm not going to raise anyone's hopes falsely. I'm banging on the door trying to wake you the fuck up. Fuck it... sleep well, OBF... hope your awakening is not a rude one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: In the half of the interview I listened to the Dr. said he provides primary care to a Hasidic community where the average age is 15. Doesn't fill in the blank you raise, but does tip the likely demographics towards a younger population sample. So 699 cases and they're mainly younger? (not directed at you Tour, I'm sure you know this) Basically you need to perform a statistical test and figure out whether the drug he's using is providing any statistically significant improvement Let's say the fatality rate of young adults or teens is only 0.1%. Then the odds of surviving currently are then 99.9%. That makes the odds of 699 people all surviving 49.7%. That means that about 50% of the time 699 young adults would survive without his drug. If the fatality rate for young adults and teens is dropped to 0.01% then the odds of all 699 people surviving rise to 93% This isn't exactly how you do statistical hypothesis testing but you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Not "mean", cal... just channeling my inner Trump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Not "mean", cal... just channeling my inner Trump... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: So 699 cases and they're mainly younger? (not directed at you Tour, I'm sure you know this) Basically you need to perform a statistical test and figure out whether the drug he's using is providing any statistically significant improvement Can't say "mainly" or anything else about the "sample", but per the Dr.'s own words the population is definitely skewed to the young side. So it's a battle between the virus' apparent "affinity" for the old and the populations' energetic supply of the young that are at odds in determining who walked in the Doc's office. But, yes... a t-test with a null hypothesis between a test group and a control group... like the NIH is doing now on a large scale. Two small scale tests (30 subjects total split into two equal groups) to date have shown no difference between the test and control (placebo) groups. In one test 13 of 15 given the drug recovered while 14 of the control group recovered. And, yes, I took a stat class at San Jacinto JUCO... about 4 decades ago. Put that lil investment to some good use for during the last of my working years as Quality Manager - Manufacturing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Grim news of coronavirus infections and fatalities continued in the U.S. on Wednesday, with the number of confirmed cases rising above 200,000 and the number of deaths surpassing 5,000. The fatalities for Wednesday alone topped 1,000 -- a one-day toll more than double that usually recorded for lung cancer and influenza combined, USA Today reported. Some researchers predicted U.S. coronavirus deaths could surpass 2,000 per day by mid-April, exceeding daily deaths attributed to heart disease, the report said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Ohio Department of Health 2,902 Confirmed Coronavirus Cases Updated: 4/2/20 2:00 p.m. Cuyahoga County Confirmed Coronavirus Cases: 663 2,902 Confirmed Cases in Ohio 260 Number of ICU admissions 802 Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio 81 Number of Deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just saw where one Ohio family has lost three family members to the virus... in Grove City. https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/hilliard-woman-loses-three-family-members-to-covid-19-urges-social-distancing-for-others Won't be long before we all know someone who has it... ... hope it does not get to the point where we all know someone it has killed... but I'd be lying if I said I liked the odds of that staying true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 18 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I'm ignoring nothing. You can't ignore data that doesn't exist yet. Do I think it is likely that there are undiagnosed cases out there? Absolutely, but there are also likely unattributed deaths out there. Can't do a calculation using unknown data. Good, glad we agree there. As to unattributed deaths? Not so much. I'm willing to place a sizable bet that essentially anyone in the US who dies from sudden onset respiratory distress now is going to be checked for corona infection. Surprises me not at all the ratio of deaths is going up. 15 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Just saw where one Ohio family has lost three family members to the virus... in Grove City. https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/hilliard-woman-loses-three-family-members-to-covid-19-urges-social-distancing-for-others Won't be long before we all know someone who has it... ... hope it does not get to the point where we all know someone it has killed... but I'd be lying if I said I liked the odds of that staying true. Already know of seven folks in quarantine. (five of them employees from my wife's hospital lab) I'll bet Joe's (our Church Education Director) elderly mom who got hospitalized over the weekend has it. He's stuck in Cincinnati in quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Ohio Department of Health 3,312 Confirmed Coronavirus Cases Updated: 4/3/20 2:00 p.m. Cuyahoga Confirmed Coronavirus Cases: 780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Potential vaccine may be coming soon. https://www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/research-covid-19-pandemic-research/2020/04/02/id/961200/?ns_mail_uid=6d52df85-236f-4a8f-8332-d84fdb5d6ebf&ns_mail_job=DM102601_04032020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010124vivfdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Potential vaccine may be coming soon. https://www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/research-covid-19-pandemic-research/2020/04/02/id/961200/?ns_mail_uid=6d52df85-236f-4a8f-8332-d84fdb5d6ebf&ns_mail_job=DM102601_04032020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010124vivfdf That is really good news, for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Potential vaccine may be coming soon. https://www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/research-covid-19-pandemic-research/2020/04/02/id/961200/?ns_mail_uid=6d52df85-236f-4a8f-8332-d84fdb5d6ebf&ns_mail_job=DM102601_04032020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010124vivfdf It works on mice, but will it work on humans? Just my off the wall theory Ag. Those individuals showing no or only mild symptoms of covid probably have a good to very good immune response to the virus. OTOH, those with a poor immune response (and we're already seeing this in the elderly and immuno compromised) are the ones most likely to have a poor outcome.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 hours ago, hoorta said: It works on mice, but will it work on humans? Just my off the wall theory Ag. Those individuals showing no or only mild symptoms of covid probably have a good to very good immune response to the virus. OTOH, those with a poor immune response (and we're already seeing this in the elderly and immuno compromised) are the ones most likely to have a poor outcome.... Good question... still have to have human trials. h, about your "off the wall"... are kids, under 10 known for having the stoutest immune responses? They still seem to be the least susceptible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 3,739 Confirmed Cases in Ohio Ohio Department of Health 04/04/2020 326 Number of ICU admissions 1,006 Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio 102 Number of Deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Wasn't about to say anything but I'll hit you with a dose of reality. My mother was told by a doctor to go to the ER 2 days ago. She was told the ONLY reason she was being tested for COVID was because she was deemed "high risk". That they're willing to ignore symptoms in many not deemed high risk just to ration tests. Got the results back 20 minutes ago - negative. Bad case of FLU type A it appears along with minor dehydration (which affects the heart) Apparently this is going to be a problem as type A has been big this year. People thinking they have it, especially given duration, and soaking up tests. I'm fortunate everybody is alright so far, but the idea that testing is available wide spread outside of major cities appears to be.... not accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 none of us have ever, ever seen this kind of crisis. It's stunning to see how it has spread to every state in the country. So many people infected, so many hospitalized, so many deaths. We're Americans. We'll win this - but it will take some time. per county Confirmed 3,739 +427 Deaths 102 +11 Recovered - Data is collected from multiple sources that update at different times and may not always align. Some states may not provide complete county-level info. Confirmed Deaths Recovered Cuyahoga 781 13 - Franklin 557 6 - Hamilton 288 2 - Lucas 272 7 - Mahoning 250 13 - Summit 184 7 - Lorain 105 2 - Stark 92 5 - Trumbull 90 6 - Lake 76 3 - Portage 74 3 - Medina 74 2 - Montgomery 69 2 - Miami 69 9 - Delaware 69 1 - Butler 59 1 - Licking 50 1 - Geauga 38 0 - Columbiana 36 5 - Fairfield 36 2 - Warren 35 0 - Darke 28 2 - Wayne 25 0 - Wood 23 0 - Clermont 20 1 - Pickaway 20 0 - Tuscarawas 19 0 - Belmont 17 0 - Allen 15 0 - Madison 15 2 - Richland 14 0 - Jefferson 14 0 - Marion 12 0 - Ashtabula 11 0 - Greene 11 1 - Shelby 10 0 - Hancock 9 0 - Coshocton 8 0 - Carroll 8 0 - Crawford 7 0 - Clinton 7 0 - Clark 7 0 - Defiance 7 0 - Union 7 0 - Lawrence 7 0 - Washington 6 0 - Auglaize 6 0 - Mercer 6 1 - Erie 6 1 - Knox 6 1 - Huron 6 1 - Champaign 5 0 - Sandusky 5 0 - Wyandot 5 0 - Seneca 5 1 - Ottawa 5 0 - Fulton 5 0 - Preble 4 0 - Ross 4 0 - Gallia 4 1 - Muskingum 4 0 - Highland 4 0 - Perry 3 0 - Brown 3 1 - Ashland 3 0 - Athens 3 1 - Logan 3 0 - Morrow 3 0 - Van Wert 2 0 - Fayette 2 0 - Williams 1 0 - Pike 1 0 - Adams 1 0 - Hardin 1 0 - Guernsey 1 0 - Holmes 1 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Wasn't about to say anything but I'll hit you with a dose of reality. My mother was told by a doctor to go to the ER 2 days ago. She was told the ONLY reason she was being tested for COVID was because she was deemed "high risk". That they're willing to ignore symptoms in many not deemed high risk just to ration tests. Got the results back 20 minutes ago - negative. Bad case of FLU type A it appears along with minor dehydration (which affects the heart) Apparently this is going to be a problem as type A has been big this year. People thinking they have it, especially given duration, and soaking up tests. I'm fortunate everybody is alright so far, but the idea that testing is available wide spread outside of major cities appears to be.... not accurate. I'm sorry to hear your family had such a scare. Do they have to design a test for every kind of flu? If that's true, we're always behind the 8-ball. so far, our county is doing ok. But the top counties are doing really bad. I hope and pray nobody on this forum knows anybody who gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I'm sorry to hear your family had such a scare. Do they have to design a test for every kind of flu? If that's true, we're always behind the 8-ball. so far, our county is doing ok. But the top counties are doing really bad. I hope and pray nobody on this forum knows anybody who gets it. I'm not entirely certain about the flu test, my guy. But the nice thing, being that it's a disease with centuries of history here, is that we're more than prepared for it. At the moment, we can't say the same for Corona. We're doing OK, I grant you that. But the line from OK to Oh, shit... is a fine one. And if we're being honest with ourselves, Tour was right about one big thing... Chances are we'll all know or share somebody who will have permanent lung function loss and/or possibly worst case scenario - no longer be with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Now I wonder if they had the virus. It wasn't even considered back then in Mid Feb. Chinese Bio lab located in Wuhan where corona virus started......... DieHardBrownsFan replied to DieHardBrownsFan's topic in POLITICAL DISCUSSION Both my younger brother and his wife have been sick since Thursday with fever, cough (bad) and severe chills and headaches. They are liberal 'anti vaxers' and didn't get the flu shots. I told them to go to an urgent care center to get tamiflu which works if you get it within 24-48 hours of symptoms... February 23 219 replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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