Ibleedbrown Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-hiring-alex-van-pelt-as-browns-offensive-coordinator.html%3foutputType=amp Good stuff, we got a guy willing to be our OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-hiring-alex-van-pelt-as-browns-offensive-coordinator.html%3foutputType=amp Good stuff, we got a guy willing to be our OC. seems like an excellent staff being put together. Woods... and Van Pelt... "He’ll help run a version of the West Coast offense that Gary Kubiak, now the Vikings coordinator, installed in Minnesota last year with Stefanski running the offense. It’s virtually the same scheme that Kyle Shanahan coached to a Super Bowl berth Sunday against the Chiefs." 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zombo said: The Van Pelt family has a rich football history. If the Browns were to ever put a logo on their helmet, there it is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 this will call for some early morning research.. Am aware of only 2 Van Pelt's in my short lifetime..1) Scott on ESPN..2) and this hoodlum from the movie Jumanji hell, a couple weeks with Baker this could happen to anybody.. good night Merica!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 There was a Bradvan pelt who was a Michigan State linebacker oh back in the day maybe in the 70s very good player. There was also a van pelt that was a quarterback or is this Alex van pelt that guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Happy we even hired one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-hiring-alex-van-pelt-as-browns-offensive-coordinator.html%3foutputType=amp Good stuff, we got a guy willing to be our OC. Looking at Wiki, he's bounced around. A lot of his bouncing had to do when teams cut their entire coaching staff loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Alex van pelt is the quarterback van pelt that I’m thinking of. But with Brad Van Pelt the linebacker from Michigan State died in 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Smiled when I saw this news... and I don't know why. Those that wanted McCarthy should be pleased with the choice... Alex spent years rotating thru the skill positions under Mike. 3 hours ago, gumby73 said: this will call for some early morning research.. Am aware of only 2 Van Pelt's in my short lifetime..1) Scott on ESPN..2) and this hoodlum from the movie Jumanji You don't remember Brad? Good player on a bunch of bad NYG teams. He was starting LB for NYG for about a decade including a couple seasons at the end of his NY stint opposite LT. He then spent a season of two in OAK before having a cup of coffee with us just prior to retiring. He went to a few Pro Bowls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Aaron Rodgers has given some very (public) high praise of Van Pelt as his QB coach. Most notably his hard work, preparation and game day input. Hoping that translates to something. I really know little about his schematic and personnel philosophy but look forward to finding out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I am just waiting for flipping the roster upside down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Despair is.. really not the right reaction here. There's a time when he was a coveted hire Rodgers didn't want to let him go Van Pelt's impact on Cincy - "if you’re asking me who’s an early front-runner for Bengals coach of the year, it’s Van Pelt" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Despair is.. really not the right reaction here. There's a time when he was a coveted hire Rodgers didn't want to let him go Van Pelt's impact on Cincy - "if you’re asking me who’s an early front-runner for Bengals coach of the year, it’s Van Pelt" There's plenty of despair, doom and gloom making the rounds now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, hoorta said: There's plenty of despair, doom and gloom making the rounds now. More than enough to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, hoorta said: There's plenty of despair, doom and gloom making the rounds now. It is all a symptom of mistrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: It is all a symptom of mistrust To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, stillmotion said: To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, stillmotion said: To be fair, Jimmy's given us absolutely nothing to trust Precisely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: He's brought his go-getter attitude that gave the world a kick-ass rebate program at Flying J to the Browns! Except Jimmah knew nothing about that program... ... hummm... Maybe we need the Rebate Mgr running the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: Except Jimmah knew nothing about that program... ... hummm... Maybe we need the Rebate Mgr running the team... Jimmy couldn't be accountable for those rebates kind of like no one specifically could be held accountable for the clusterfuck that was The Process. I'm starting to see his never-dying love for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 https://theathletic.com/1620482/2020/02/19/interpreting-offensive-coordinator-alex-van-pelts-first-browns-news-conference/?source=shared_article&share_token=5e4db8bdd0abf6.50885006 Recent Pat McManamon article in the Athletic. The site said l could share the article with a friend, so l linked above. Let me know if it holds up. I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/browns-oc-alex-van-pelt-wants-baker-mayfield-leading-with-his-left-foot-will-double-as-qb-coach-not-wed-to-calling-plays.html%3foutputType=amp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 5:53 PM, Ibleedbrown said: I really like this Van Pelt guy. Says real “sink your teeth into” stuff. I’ll link a cleveland.com article below that had snippets of the interview. It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: It's early, but I like what I hear, specifically how Van Pelt is going to hammer Baker about his footwork. That's going to be key for reducing those awful high throws. I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!! Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 15 hours ago, Canton Mike said: I like it too. Imagine that...Browns Coaches who are preaching & teaching fundamentals...FINALLY!!! Mike Interesting to hear about Van Pelt not wanting Baker to get his own QB coach in the offseason. Probably the first time I've heard of that, but it makes sense. Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something like, "I don't need someone to tell me how to do a 3 step drop. If it needs work, I'll critique myself." I don't know the exact context, but I know that wasn't what I wanted to hear. It was obvious to everyone that Baker was missing the intermediate throws (normally high, which means you can't throw over the middle), was locking on PRE-SNAP (especially in red zone), and he wasn't staying in the pocket. I can understand not staying in the pocket, as our OL wasn't great in pass protection, but Baker darted out to his right FAR too often instead of stepping up and defenses were all to ready for it. You ready for the good news? OK, but before we get to it, we need a little history. Remember when the Vikings broke the bank and gave Kirk Cousins like the biggest guaranteed contract ever? Well, Kirk Cousins then went out and set the world on fire, right? Well, kind of. Although he threw 30 tds against 10 picks, the offense was clunky and Minnesota actually let go of their OC during the season and none other than Kevin Stefanski finished the year in the role. The offense got better under Stefanski and he was invited back to be the OC for the 2019 season where Minnesota enjoyed a versatile attack that heavily relied on the ground game and devastating play-action passing attacks. If you want to see what Minnesota's offense looks like just check out the YouTube highlights of their games, or you can watch the San Francisco 49's offense. They look very similar (with obvious differences of course) and they rely on multiple variations of the exact same formation to confuse defenses. OK, so you remember when the 49's beat our asses into the ground? Remember how there were receivers wide open, running backs gashing us, and essentially we couldn't do anything to stop them? Yeah...that's what will happen if a defense isn't prepared properly, and THAT'S what our offense CAN look like. Can anybody tell me the names of the 49's best wide receivers? Other than Kittle, I have no clue. Imagine our offense looking like theirs but with Chubb, OBJ, and Landry. Would anybody say that Garoppolo or Cousins are more talented than Baker Mayfield? Throw better? I don't think so. So if you put Baker in a similar offense to what the Vikings and 49's ran, is it fair to expect similar results? I think it is, especially when we bring in a real TE and fullback. Don't forget, our TEs were garbage last year and I had no faith in any of them. If I had to see Baker force that play-action pass over the middle to Harris ONE more time, I would have gone crazy. Stefanski in Minnesota was all about detail, which will be a stark contrast to Kitchens. Be prepared for a total culture shock and a baptism of sorts. I'm telling you, it's going to be night and day different in terms of preparation and play-calling, I know it. Remember when we'd get into the red zone, like inside the 5, and it was total chaos? Now, it got better with the arrival of Hunt, but Jesus we looked lost sometimes. Remember against Buffalo when it took 47 plays inside the 3 to score and our own PLAYERS were calling for the FG?! Have you ever seen that before? Now, obviously I have no way of being certain of anything, as I'm just some idiot who loves the Browns and drank too much coffee this morning which propelled me into writing this novel. There's one last thing I wanted to discuss (I know, I know) and that's our OL. We had the exact same tackles last year as the 2018 year yet virtually everyone is bemoaning how terrible they are, including me. In 2018 after Williams and Kitchens took over we'd had near historic levels of OL play. Like, we weren't counting sacks, we were counting QB "touches". Baker literally didn't get TOUCHED sometimes. So what happened last year? Playcalling happened, that's what. Teams knowing what we're doing, predictable calls, calling the same play multiple times in a row, calling plays we haven't practiced in weeks...ALL sorts of problems. Those kinds of errors will be gone. I don't think we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows, I mean, this is freakin Cleveland. But we're going to be better, and by better I mean fighting for playoffs...finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: Something else I didn't like hearing was Baker saying he didn't NEED help working on certain things. Even the world's top golfers have swing coaches... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Even the world's top golfers have swing coaches... I pointed out it's even more so in the sport I was 1\2 decent in- tennis. ALL the top players have coaches. Serving a tennis ball is sort of like hitting a drive off the tee.... Just because you've done it 100,000 times before doesn't mean you can't get out of whack and not know why..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Van Pelt's presser is on the team site. He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well. And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Orion said: Van Pelt's presser is on the team site. He's concerned about the OL and TE positions. Not sure he's got the TE that can block well and catch well. And he's gonna change Mayfield's footwork. Including starting with his left foot forward while in the shotgun, instead of his right. You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either. I think he gets it. Don’t get cute...you have talented skill guys, spread them out there’s bound to be mismatch...Baker needs to find the open guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SdBacker80 said: You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last year and quite honestly it wasn’t That talented for the week and half we had NJoku either. I might argue that an awful lot was asked of the TE group last year and they maybe weren’t put in the best position to succeed. Stuff like having the TE block the other team’s star DE within the play call. I also think Baker’s change up is a work in progress. There’s that certain style of timing touch pass that seems mighty effective with TEs and RBs from the backfield that Baker hasn’t quite got the hang of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: You could argue TE position group was the worst position group last I'd argue the OL...but...Njoku had an off year and, not that Fells was a great TE but he was pretty good and for some unknown reason we let him go to replace him with Pharoh Brown...who's no where near as good as Fells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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