Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/browns-might-not-hire-oc Great idea, that always works! 😬 WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/browns-might-not-hire-oc Great idea, that always works! 😬 WSS lol. Except, if the right guy isn't available, why just add a guy who ends up not working out? The Browns have been burnt by this. Get the right OC, even if you have to wait to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 hours ago, gumby73 said: GM interviews start on 1-17-20.. #1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20) #3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd 9 hour interview in Cleveland Wednesday 1-22-20 Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job. COACHING STAFF HIRES #1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20 1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff #2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman #4) RB's- Stump Mitchell Coaches all strike me as no-brainers, so it's good Stef is getting those right. Best "get" to date, if indeed he is "gotten" in principle, has to be Callahan. https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/damien-woody-bill-callahan-might-be-best-hire-cleveland-browns-have-made-this-offseason/95-174ca0b1-fe08-4be4-bf1e-dd1b1127d804 GM search? Top two seem to be balking... Berry leery of Haslam and Paton leery of Depo reporting to Haslam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: lol. Except, if the right guy isn't available, why just add a guy who ends up not working out? The Browns have been burnt by this. Get the right OC, even if you have to wait to get him. Agree. This feels like a "Kubiak ain't coming" alternative. Plus in an age of Pass/run game coordinators it feels like the OC is optional when you have a playcalling HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Did George Paton go to Senior Bowl week at all? I wonder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Agree. This feels like a "Kubiak ain't coming" alternative. Plus in an age of Pass/run game coordinators it feels like the OC is optional when you have a playcalling HC. I was very disappointed when Kubiac took the Viks OC job instead of coming to the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: I was very disappointed when Kubiac took the Viks OC job instead of coming to the Browns. That might tell you a lot right there. Good OC and DC at the P5 college schools can make $500k to $1M+. Good NFL ones over $1M+ and starting HC around $5M+. (it's hard to get exact numbers on them). For most in the coaching profession the NFL job is the final stop, the dream job. In Cleveland it's become a revolving door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, mjp28 said: That might tell you a lot right there. Good OC and DC at the P5 college schools can make $500k to $1M+. Good NFL ones over $1M+ and starting HC around $5M+. (it's hard to get exact numbers on them). For most in the coaching profession the NFL job is the final stop, the dream job. In Cleveland it's become a revolving door. Kubiac is already a proven coach to the Viks ownership and with our idiot, that means nothing. Job security on the level that Kubiac wants to coach. He could easily have become someone's HC, but he's been there and did not really like it. Too stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 So? WTF is going on? Paton has been in twice for interviews. Berry has been in. Monti WTFever has been in, it seems like weeks ago. Are the Browns waiting on another name to surface? If so, Who? Are they considering someone who is still working with the 2 SuperBowl teams? Are they just taking 3 days to work out contract terms? Does anyone have a clue? As it certainly seems like the Browns do not. (but I guess that would be typical Haslam) Is Depo on vacation and are they waiting for him to come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Kubiac is already a proven coach to the Viks ownership and with our idiot, that means nothing. Job security on the level that Kubiac wants to coach. He could easily have become someone's HC, but he's been there and did not really like it. Too stressful. Kubiac's real job protecting the big asset in town. From twincities.com. https://www.twincities.com/2020/01/23/report-vikings-hire-veteran-coach-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator ......As much as Cook took his game to the next level in the zone scheme, no doubt the top priority for Kubiak now that he’s the man in charge will be continuing to get the most out of quarterback Kirk Cousins, who will be entering the final year of his fully guaranteed three-year, $84 million contract..... Kirk Cousins a FULLY GUARANTEED $84,000,000 contract? Really? Oh yeah I hope Gary Kubiac is well compensated for his work. Just 1% of the $84M would be $840,000 mind blowing at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, mjp28 said: Kubiac's real job protecting the big asset in town. From twincities.com. https://www.twincities.com/2020/01/23/report-vikings-hire-veteran-coach-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator ......As much as Cook took his game to the next level in the zone scheme, no doubt the top priority for Kubiak now that he’s the man in charge will be continuing to get the most out of quarterback Kirk Cousins, who will be entering the final year of his fully guaranteed three-year, $84 million contract..... Kirk Cousins a FULLY GUARANTEED $84,000,000 contract? Really? Oh yeah I hope Gary Kubiac is well compensated for his work. Just 1% of the $84M would be $840,000 mind blowing at times. Every HC or OC's main job is to get the most out of their starting QB. Nothing new or enlightening about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, mjp28 said: Kubiac's real job protecting the big asset in town. From twincities.com. https://www.twincities.com/2020/01/23/report-vikings-hire-veteran-coach-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator ......As much as Cook took his game to the next level in the zone scheme, no doubt the top priority for Kubiak now that he’s the man in charge will be continuing to get the most out of quarterback Kirk Cousins, who will be entering the final year of his fully guaranteed three-year, $84 million contract..... Kirk Cousins a FULLY GUARANTEED $84,000,000 contract? Really? Oh yeah I hope Gary Kubiac is well compensated for his work. Just 1% of the $84M would be $840,000 mind blowing at times. Um, Cousins' contract is puny compared to the fully guaranteed money top MLB players are currently hauling in..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigalow80 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 just wait until the patrick mahomes contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 i read Mcadoo former giants coach was in cleveland oh god no I hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Radio is saying that Paton is pulling out of consideration for the GM job. Apparently there were issues about the "Power structure" and the division of labor that he was not comfortable with. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/george-paton-takes-himself-out-of-running-for-browns-gm-source-says-andrew-berry-the-leading-candidate.html So, I have no clue what this means. Speculation: A. He knew that working for Jimmy would just be a FUBAR situation all around, because JH wants to be a control freak....or Paton knew that trying to work with him would be chaotic. B. He knew that the Browns had their hearts set on Andrew Berry. C. He was being told that Elliot Wolf and Alonzo Highsmith were going to have certain jobs....and he didn't like being dictated to. Whatever it is, it is the Haslams being being fucked up bosses with no clue. Sound about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Whatever it is, it is the Haslams being being fucked up bosses with no clue. Sound about right? Yes, I'll also go with answer D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Orion said: Did George Paton go to Senior Bowl week at all? I wonder... ....umm.....never mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Um, Cousins' contract is puny compared to the fully guaranteed money top MLB players are currently hauling in..... MLB top contracts are insane to play beisbol. It started with that crazy deal with ARod which has been surpassed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 19 hours ago, The Gipper said: Are the Browns waiting on another name to surface? If so, Who? Are they considering someone who is still working with the 2 SuperBowl teams? Does anyone have a clue? I've checked both sides & I've found a Name that may match Stef...Daniel Ricci...Ricci worked in the Vikings Public relations dept. when Stef was with the Vikings..Ricci has been the Player Personal asst. in KC for the past 3 years..Would Haslam trust another Chief? 2 others at KC..Chris Shea-Hofstra law or Ryan Poles- Boston College 49'ers== VP to GM Keena Turner ain't leaving...Leaves only 2 asst GM's 1) Martin Mayhew has a Georgetown law degree & done work for Giants & Lions 2) Adam Peters- did tons of work with Broncos from 2009-16 If anybody, I'd keep a ear out for Stef trying to get Daniel Ricci from KC to Haslams house of horrors.. Yep all speculation...but hey.. at least am dumpster diving it's what Jimmy do In Browns Coaching Staff hiring news.. Former Vikings Off.Asst/Asst.WR/QB Coach/ than WR Coach.. Drew Petzing is said to be hired as next Browns TE Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/sports/nfl/browns/report-49ers-making-late-push-to-keep-joe-woods-from-taking-browns-defensive-coordinator-job/95-672f8d63-29e2-4ae6-ac03-00eabd958eb4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/sports/nfl/browns/report-49ers-making-late-push-to-keep-joe-woods-from-taking-browns-defensive-coordinator-job/95-672f8d63-29e2-4ae6-ac03-00eabd958eb4 really do not see a way they could stop him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, ATOM said: really do not see a way they could stop him Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?" That might work. WS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?" That might work. WS ...and if it doesn't, why would we want anyone stupid enough to come and work for Jimmuh after being warned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, Orion said: ...and if it doesn't, why would we want anyone stupid enough to come and work for Jimmuh after being warned? Well somebody's going to take the job. 😬 WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?" That might work. WS That would be the most Brownsish thing to happen... and then have to scramble way after the fact to come up with a DCoordinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 4:30 PM, ATOM said: i read Mcadoo former giants coach was in cleveland oh god no I hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Need to check the local porto-johns for our next piece of shit hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Either you do it right, or you don't do it. Haste makes waste. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/joel-bitonio-impressed-by-kevin-stefanski-excited-by-possibilities-on-offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 The Ohio Coaching list is maddening... Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH Don Shula-Grand River,OH Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH Les Myles-Elyria,OH Ron Zook-Ashland,OH Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH Dick LeBeau-London,OH Sean McVay-Dayton,OH All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? 🤔 Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 John Mackovic former Chiefs HC. As well as Texas Longhorns. From Barberton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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