hammertime Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Baby steps Tex.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: You have earned our respect with your service Tex but I cannot understand how your almost blind hatred for Trump prevents you from seeing all the good things he is doing for this country. I was not a Trump supporter in 2016 but he has won me over by all the good things he has done. But here is the thing OBF, my most important issue has always been my suspicion that Trump sold this country out to Putin years ago. Nothing he has done has countered that and everything he has done internationally leads right back to that. Helsinki was the final confirmation for me. I still see him as the Siberian Candidate. Once you make that a priority, maybe you'll get my disdain for the man who would be king. What good does it do to do good things for a country if you betray it to our enemies? And there are a lot of very smart people who are finally coming to that same conclusion, many long term Republicans. Hopefully they will shuck their RINO Halloween costumes on Nov. 1 and put a real Republican in that office by next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, hammertime said: Baby steps Tex.... I don't see you making any yet. Time will prove me right and history will look at trumpettes as fools who bought a liar's tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: But here is the thing OBF, my most important issue has always been my suspicion that Trump sold this country out to Putin years ago. Nothing he has done has countered that and everything he has done internationally leads right back to that. Helsinki was the final confirmation for me. I still see him as the Siberian Candidate. Once you make that a priority, maybe you'll get my disdain for the man who would be king. What good does it do to do good things for a country if you betray it to our enemies? And there are a lot of very smart people who are finally coming to that same conclusion, many long term Republicans. Hopefully they will shuck their RINO Halloween costumes on Nov. 1 and put a real Republican in that office by next election. China I believe is our biggest threat today. Look at all the grovelling being done and the bowing down to China now by the NBA and some of our corporations. When we opened up trade with China we were told part of that was to have a positive influence on them and bring our values to their country. What has happened is we turned them into a super power and now they are dictating their repressive values on to our own country and that is sad. Trump has been the strongest president to date in trying to force China to play fair while previous administrations made TERRIBLE trade agreements with China. Actions speak louder than words and in actions Trump has been tougher with Russia than previous administrations. Russia has nuclear weapons and they will always be a threat in that way but I was surprised to see economically speaking how low down the totem pole they actually are. I read once where their economy is roughly the size of Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: China I believe is our biggest threat today. Look at all the grovelling being done and the bowing down to China now by the NBA and some of our corporations. When we opened up trade with China we were told part of that was to have a positive influence on them and bring our values to their country. What has happened is we turned them into a super power and now they are dictating their repressive values on to our own country and that is sad. Trump has been the strongest president to date in trying to force China to play fair while previous administrations made TERRIBLE trade agreements with China. Actions speak louder than words and in actions Trump has been tougher with Russia than previous administrations. Russia has nuclear weapons and they will always be a threat in that way but I was surprised to see economically speaking how low down the totem pole they actually are. I read once where their economy is roughly the size of Italy. The sanctions on Russia were forced on Trump by Republicans in Congress and he has since backed off with minimal repercussions. He had that 2 hour meeting with Putin alone in Helsinki to explain himself. He's Putin's Pussy. We both know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: The sanctions on Russia were forced on Trump by Republicans in Congress and he has since backed off with minimal repercussions. He had that 2 hour meeting with Putin alone in Helsinki to explain himself. He's Putin's Pussy. We both know it. If the FBI and CIA and our intelligence agencies could not find any proof for what you are saying then why don't you accept it? You don't think for a moment that Clapper, Brennan or Comey would have nailed Trump if they had any evidence of what you are saying? You know they would but they didn't have anything and they were really looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: If the FBI and CIA and our intelligence agencies could not find any proof for what you are saying then why don't you accept it? You don't think for a moment that Clapper, Brennan or Comey would have nailed Trump if they had any evidence of what you are saying? You know they would but they didn't have anything and they were really looking. So now our Intel agencies aren't apart of the Deep State. Funny how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: So now our Intel agencies aren't apart of the Deep State. Funny how that works. Of course there were those in these agencies who were trying to take down Trump but they had nothing. Three years of investigation by Mueller and his Trump hating prosecutors and millions of dollars spent and they came up empty. Now we are in round 2 of this sham with Ukraine where the transcript has been released (dems weren't counting on that) and the transcripts shows no (like in zero) quid pro quo or any of the allegations the CIA whistle blower (leaker) was claiming. In fact the only quid pro quo was from Joe Biden who ordered Ukraine to fire the prosecutor who coincidentally was looking into corruption involving Biden's son or they would not get any military aid. There may be nothing illegal with Biden's son getting millions of dollars to sit on boards with no experience but certainly there is a conflict of interest. There was no reason for Biden's son to get this position except these companies were buying influence. Everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Cease fire reached and people still want to blame Trump.....the hatred is strong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-who-praised-obama-for-troop-withdrawal-now-highly-critical-of-trump?fbclid=IwAR0vs-LRN4L3qCExydc8gzhERirZ5FNiG5lLPktdYqXAfSCQEuAGql6ICFo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Axe said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-who-praised-obama-for-troop-withdrawal-now-highly-critical-of-trump?fbclid=IwAR0vs-LRN4L3qCExydc8gzhERirZ5FNiG5lLPktdYqXAfSCQEuAGql6ICFo of course they do. It's all offensive, corrupt political theater, egged on by emotional knee jerks on the left. Meanwhile, you can NOT get any of the left to admit the economy is terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://videos.whatfinger.com/2019/10/17/lou-dobbs-scalise-says-syria-meeting-went-well-once-pelosi-schumer-stormed-out-heres-how-it-all-went-down/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 DIPLOMACY, TRUMP STYLE Erdogan agrees to Syria cease-fire after unusual letter, talks with Pence and Pompeo The deal is for a 120-hour cease-fire, during which time the Kurdish-led forces could pull back from the roughly 20-mile-wide safe zone on the Turkish-Syrian border. All Turkish military operations under the recent offensive known as Operation Peace Spring will pause during that time, and the operation itself will come to an end entirely upon the completion of the Kurdish withdrawal, under the terms of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 There. That solves that problem. Of course, the left will hate it. They just won't know exactly why. Like Tex, they will just keep saying mean things about Pres Trump. Drain the swamp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Meanwhile in Texas real Americans are lining up to cheer the POTUS👋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: There. That solves that problem. Of course, the left will hate it. They just won't know exactly why. Like Tex, they will just keep saying mean things about Pres Trump. Drain the swamp. We all know the left would have been cheering if Obama pulled troops out of Syria but since Trump did it they will criticize him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said: We all know the left would have been cheering if Obama pulled troops out of Syria but since Trump did it they will criticize him for it. Yep. They lost the election, and have been throwing a giant temper tantrum since their loss in 2016. The biggest reasons are - they nearly had 4 years of higgardly, who would have cemented the deep state's hold on OUR AMERICA. rigged elections, padded by desperate 12 million illegals voting, a strongly leftist Supreme Court that would do their bidding, and a flood of leftwing activist federal judges across our country. All hell would have broken loose, But they lost it all, and some at the top may very well end up in prison. But like has always been true - the liberals/left/communist types never FEEL they are wrong - they just didn't get to do more of what they did while in power. And any political opposition, any moral opposition (to their IMmoral), and any voice in opposition - is their enemy. Now, nearly all was lost for them getting all the power they desperately craved, and now, they aren't pretending it isn't true anymore. Way off the common sense American hayride wagon. Their emotions RULE, and facts only get in the way. Their principle, if any, are bogus - meant to gain power. They reverse the same principle if it gets them more power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 hours ago, tiamat63 said: So now our Intel agencies aren't apart of the Deep State. Funny how that works. See how what works funny man? Entire intelligence agencies weren't deep state. The "deep state" players were high level personnel...those people who convince themselves that what they're doing for the better good. What they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have. Those unelected bureaucrats who start viewing themselves as the guardians of the people are the deep state. Don't pretend like you're ignorant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: There is also a biblical side to world events today: GOD warns Iran (Persia), being fully directed, commanded, and controlled by Russia (Magog), along with a coalition of allies (including Turkey) WILL go to war and will attack and invade Israel. http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Warning 6 Russia Iran Invasion.html First one is a Head Fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Rush: Pelosi approved of Obama pulling our troops out of Iraq, which opened the door for ISIS, (who were only a JV team anyway). She also tried to defund soldiers in Afghanistan and in Iraq in order to force Bush to bring them home, now she is apoplectic because Trump has pulled a handful of troops out of Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/media/admiral-william-mcraven-trump-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR0DrOVQNVhpnnOgRI5uMhnnNpdnfG78GqSB2AFbwZNh2DnTvRBwdIWk7PA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Well, that was one hell of a solid ceasefire negotiation. Good to see Turkey respects President Trump and the United Sta.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Old school military thinking. It’s what has kept us at war for so long. We don’t need to be in Syria. It’s not like we are closing up our bases all over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: https://www.foxnews.com/media/admiral-william-mcraven-trump-syria-turkey?fbclid=IwAR0DrOVQNVhpnnOgRI5uMhnnNpdnfG78GqSB2AFbwZNh2DnTvRBwdIWk7PA Guess he's a Clinton-shill now too, just like Gen. Mathis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said: Guess he's a Clinton-shill now too, just like Gen. Mathis If I remember right this admiral has been opposed to Trump for a while and has criticized him in the past. When it comes to our institutions being attacked I give most of the credit for that to the left. I don't have a problem with Trump pulling the troops out of Syria. He is doing what he campaigned on and I agree we have gotten too involved in conflicts around the world that we are better off not being involved with. The main problem I have with how Trump pulled out was he needed to negotiate a withdrawal to protect the Kurds. We owed them that much. What Trump is trying to do now with a cease fire I think he should have done before pulling the troops out. Even though he stated his intentions of pulling out of Syria he did it too abruptly imo. Some think our 50 troops would have kept the peace in the area but i don't think so. We needed to get them out of harms way. That is the lesson Reagan learned when we lost 275 marines in a terrorist bombing in Lebanon. He was wise enough to bring our troops home after that, to leave them there they were sitting ducks for terrorist attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said: Guess he's a Clinton-shill now too, just like Gen. Mathis Let me repeat this JB, generals and most military guys are extremely resistant to pulling troops out of anywhere. Other anti trumper's like Rand Paul are fine with reducing the United States military presence around the world. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: Well, that was one hell of a solid ceasefire negotiation. Good to see Turkey respects President Trump and the United Sta.... Donald J. Trump 32 mins · Just spoke to President Erdogan of Turkey. He told me there was minor sniper and mortar fire that was quickly eliminated. He very much wants the ceasefire, or pause, to work. Likewise, the Kurds want it, and the ultimate solution, to happen. Too bad there wasn’t this thinking years ago. Instead, it was always held together with very weak bandaids, & in an artificial manner. There is good will on both sides & a really good chance for success. The U.S. has secured the Oil, & the ISIS Fighters are double secured by Kurds & Turkey. I have just been notified that some European Nations are now willing, for the first time, to take the ISIS Fighters that came from their nations. This is good news, but should have been done after WE captured them. Anyway, big progress being made!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Donald J. Trump 32 mins · Just spoke to President Erdogan of Turkey. He told me there was minor sniper and mortar fire that was quickly eliminated. He very much wants the ceasefire, or pause, to work. Likewise, the Kurds want it, and the ultimate solution, to happen. Too bad there wasn’t this thinking years ago. Instead, it was always held together with very weak bandaids, & in an artificial manner. There is good will on both sides & a really good chance for success. The U.S. has secured the Oil, & the ISIS Fighters are double secured by Kurds & Turkey. I have just been notified that some European Nations are now willing, for the first time, to take the ISIS Fighters that came from their nations. This is good news, but should have been done after WE captured them. Anyway, big progress being made!!!! Well I sure believe that! After all he has such a great track record of truthfulness and he's got no strings to Putin. Trumpinoccio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 The best thing that could have happened a few years ago was that attempted military coup in Turkey would have been successful. Erdogan is trouble with a capital T. He is a muslim fanatic who has taken over the country and made Turkey into another Iran. They are not the same country today that they were when they became part of NATO. They have no business in NATO under Erdogan. He is an enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 They (Turkey) also purchased the S400 missile system from Russia. How they hell are they part of Nato is beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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