Kvoethe Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 As much as I am a baker fan...saquon has really done a helluva job. 2000 rushing yards...3rd time for a rook in nfl Caught more balls than obj his rookie season. Baker may get it still as a more skill position Its close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Both are deserving. Of course Barkley played all year and Baker was held out of a few games. (Baker DID set a rookie QB record) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Baker should get it due to the circumstances he had to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Baker hands down.. he had more to do with team victories than Barkley did for his.. And did more with less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: As much as I am a baker fan...saquon has really done a helluva job. 2000 rushing yards...3rd time for a rook in nfl Caught more balls than obj his rookie season. Baker may get it still as a more skill position Its close One correction. Saquon did NOT have 2,000 yards rushing, he had 2,000 COMBINED yards, rushing & receiving (see stats below). Impressive, but not nearly as impressive as Baker's numbers at the QB position. Our kid deserves Offensive Rookie of the Year. Mike 4th NFC East (5-11-0) http://www.giants.com/ Founded: 1925 Stadium: MetLife Stadium Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Eli Manning 576 380 4299 66.0 7.5 21 3.6 11 1.9 58 47 358 92.4 Kyle Lauletta 5 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 1 20.0 -- 0 0 0.0 Odell Beckham 2 2 106 100.0 53.0 2 100.0 0 0.0 57 0 0 158.3 RUSHING STATISTICS Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD Saquon Barkley 261 1307 5.0 78 11 Wayne Gallman 51 176 3.5 9 1 Eli Manning 15 20 1.3 7 1 Elijhaa Penny 7 25 3.6 8 0 Jonathan Stewart 6 17 2.8 5 0 Odell Beckham 5 19 3.8 11 0 Evan Engram 3 36 12.0 14 0 Sterling Shepard 3 33 11.0 27 0 Riley Dixon 1 14 14.0 14 0 Corey Coleman 1 5 5.0 5 0 Kyle Lauletta 1 -2 -2.0 -2 0 RECEIVING STATISTICS Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD Saquon Barkley 91 721 7.9 57 4 Odell Beckham 77 1052 13.7 51 6 Sterling Shepard 66 872 13.2 58 4 Evan Engram 45 577 12.8 54 3 Rhett Ellison 25 272 10.9 29 1 Bennie Fowler 16 199 12.4 26 1 Wayne Gallman 14 89 6.4 21 0 Cody Latimer 11 190 17.3 39 1 Russell Shepard 10 188 18.8 49 2 Scott Simonson 9 86 9.6 24 1 Elijhaa Penny 8 50 6.3 16 0 Corey Coleman 5 71 14.2 30 0 Jawill Davis 4 40 10.0 22 0 Spencer Pulley 1 -2 -2.0 -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Baker zero question. None. 27 TD's in fucking cleveland? And not playing in 3 games? If he doesnt get it, then its more NFL who cares about clev bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Doesn't Collin cowherd get a vote? We Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Pretty clear Baker gets it just for putting up with the Clueless One at the start of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 It’s a toss up IMO both are great at there respective positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Thank You , Baker!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 BTW, here are Baker's stats..... Mike PASSING STATISTICS Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Baker Mayfield 486 310 3725 63.8 7.7 27 5.6 14 2.9 71 25 173 93.7 Tyrod Taylor 85 42 473 49.4 5.6 2 2.4 2 2.4 47 13 81 64.5 Jarvis Landry 2 1 63 50.0 31.5 0 0.0 0 0.0 63 0 0 95.8 Dontrell Hilliard 1 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 1 100.0 -- 0 0 0.0 RUSHING STATISTICS Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD Nick Chubb 192 996 5.2 92 8 Duke Johnson 40 201 5.0 23 0 Baker Mayfield 39 131 3.4 35 0 Tyrod Taylor 16 125 7.8 24 1 Breshad Perriman 4 2 0.5 7 0 Jarvis Landry 3 60 20.0 51 1 Antonio Callaway 2 7 3.5 15 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Took Grandson to the airport a couple hours ago to fly him back to San Antonio & looked into the gift shop at Akron Canton Airport. Staring at me was THIS shirt...... I couldn't pass it by! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 My view on Baker. That fateful Thursday night....playing the Jets with Tyrod as our starter....I (like the rest of us) was watching with my typical Browns long-face. We looked awful. I said to Mrs. Wife, "We're not gonna win a game all season." AND THEN, Tyrod got hurt......and EVERYTHING changed. When Baker took the snap in victory formation I turned my tv up to 39 volume (quite loud). I wanted to be a part of that celebration. From there, Baker Mayfield took an 0-16 football team to 7 wins and had us in the playoff hunt until the second last week of the season. (might have made playoffs if they'd have jettisoned Hue & Haley sooner) So, if we're talking MVP.....well, what he did for an 0-16 football team seems to be the definition of most valuable player. What the criteria for Rookie Of The Year is, I'm not sure. But as has been said, he has set an NFL rookie TD passes record. No other rookie QB has ever thrown for as many TD's as he did. .....having said all that, Barkely's rookie season matches all of the hype surrounding him - Pre Draft. He had a phenomenal rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Great season by Barkley, but Baker is the clear choice. Best rookie season by a QB ever. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 I think Baker won more games for Cle than Barkley did for nyg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Baker set the all time record for rookie TD passes, and he did that compared to having just 14 picks. Furthermore, he didn't even start the first 3 games, and he lost his head coach and offensive coordinator. And frankly, it might not be fair, but Baker did it in CLEVELAND. A place where QBs go to die. A place where nobody has succeeded. A place that evokes laughter and snickers across the world for so many painful reasons. This is not to take anything away from Saquon, as his season was spectacular and he's also known to be a high character individual worthy of winning accolades and prestige. He's going to be exceptional for a LONG TIME. But you know what? He's still not a QB. Might not be fair, but that's how it is in the NFL. Additionally, think of the players that Baker elevated this year. Look at Breshad Perriman for example. A player cut by 2 different teams in the same year. How about Callaway having a solid rookie season, and Rashard Higgins continuing to improve? Njoku increasing his stats and so on. Baker made so many players better, and while that's a function of his position, it's still incredibly fun to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 flipping Baker changed the damn culture of not only the team but of the city so ya he deserves it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Zombo said: Great season by Barkley, but Baker is the clear choice. Best rookie season by a QB ever. Zombo Well Z- turns out there's LOTS of different ROTY awards. Baker is almost certainly a lock for the Pepsi one considering it's based on fan voting, and he won ROTW way more than anyone else. He should get several- but if you peruse the lists, running backs have taken the honor a fair share of times... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Took Grandson to the airport a couple hours ago to fly him back to San Antonio & looked into the gift shop at Akron Canton Airport. Staring at me was THIS shirt...... I couldn't pass it by! Mike Mike try copying it again... No comprendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 41 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: Baker set the all time record for rookie TD passes, and he did that compared to having just 14 picks. Furthermore, he didn't even start the first 3 games, and he lost his head coach and offensive coordinator. And frankly, it might not be fair, but Baker did it in CLEVELAND. A place where QBs go to die. A place where nobody has succeeded. A place that evokes laughter and snickers across the world for so many painful reasons. Fuck you, Tallahassee. Aside from this team having been so bad...what else is it that you think there is to evoke laughter and snickers about Cleveland for? I have been to Tallahassee....and I saw nothing there that gives it an edge over Cleveland. This is not to take anything away from Saquon, as his season was spectacular and he's also known to be a high character individual worthy of winning accolades and prestige. He's going to be exceptional for a LONG TIME. But you know what? He's still not a QB. Might not be fair, but that's how it is in the NFL. Additionally, think of the players that Baker elevated this year. Look at Breshad Perriman for example. A player cut by 2 different teams in the same year. How about Callaway having a solid rookie season, and Rashard Higgins continuing to improve? Njoku increasing his stats and so on. Baker made so many players better, and while that's a function of his position, it's still incredibly fun to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, hoorta said: Well Z- turns out there's LOTS of different ROTY awards. Baker is almost certainly a lock for the Pepsi one considering it's based on fan voting, and he won ROTW way more than anyone else. He should get several- but if you peruse the lists, running backs have taken the honor a fair share of times... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award It is always easier for rookie RBs than rookie QBs. Their position is so much simpler, and with that ease, a talented one can come in and perform at a high...be it more instinctual level than a QB usually can right away. It is far, far, far harder for a QB to excel as a rookie than it is for a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Larry, Hopefully THIS works. I have one hell of a time posting pics. Pic of the shirt I couldn't pass up at the airport when we put Grandson on the plane. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: Fuck you, Tallahassee. Aside from this team having been so bad...what else is it that you think there is to evoke laughter and snickers about Cleveland for? I have been to Tallahassee....and I saw nothing there that gives it an edge over Cleveland. What the heck are you talking about, bro? I didn't mean the CITY of Cleveland, I meant the Browns. They evoked laughter and the like. Why would I make fun of a freaking city that I'm FROM? Relax man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Larry, Hopefully THIS works. I have one hell of a time posting pics. Pic of the shirt I couldn't pass up at the airport when we put Grandson on the plane. Mike Baker will be the first jersey I've purchased in YEARS! My last one? Peyton Hillis! Bwaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'm getting Me a Baker Jersey.. come hell or high water.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, nickers said: I'm getting Me a Baker Jersey.. come hell or high water.. ha I got 2 for christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, nickers said: I'm getting Me a Baker Jersey.. come hell or high water.. I bought a Baker jersey right after the draft, promising my "Baker doubter" friends that I wouldn't wear it until he started. They countered with the statement that he had better win. The 1st game I wore it to was the Jets' game...Just had a hunch!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, nickers said: I'm getting Me a Baker Jersey.. come hell or high water.. Don't get me wrong- I love Baker, but he's got to make a couple Pro Bowls before I'm spending the $$$ on one. The Couch jersey gathering dust in my basement is reason enough. That said, Baker has already shown 5X more than Tummuh ever did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, Canton Mike said: I bought a Baker jersey right after the draft, promising my "Baker doubter" friends that I wouldn't wear it until he started. They countered with the statement that he had better win. The 1st game I wore it to was the Jets' game...Just had a hunch!! Mike Its a little harder for me being on a fixed income... Im always looking out for a deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, ATOM said: ha I got 2 for christmas That's great! What color(s) are they? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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