Westside Steve Posted April 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/04/heading-into-year-4-of-baker-mayfield-how-should-fans-feel-terrys-talkin-browns.html I would hate it if they bailed on Mayfield. Don't trust Clowney either. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/04/heading-into-year-4-of-baker-mayfield-how-should-fans-feel-terrys-talkin-browns.html I mentioned that Paul Brown never won a title without Otto Graham.“He never even won a playoff game without Otto Graham,” said the executive. “Great coach, but he needed the quarterback.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 Of course in most of Paul's day with a non-expansion team there was only one "playoff game"... ... so there's that. Late in his career he had Dr. Frank (who won a championship under Collier) and then Ken Anderson in Cinci after the team got pretty good. Both QBs were better than good. Bottom line: While a great innovator in his days in H.S., college, the AAFC and early NFL, the NFL caught up with pretty quickly. Not even good QBs could help him enough to make, let alone go deep into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/04/inside-the-browns-decision-to-sign-jadeveon-clowney-terry-pluto.html?outputType=amp I'm still on the fence over clowney. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 6:19 PM, Tour2ma said: Of course in most of Paul's day with a non-expansion team there was only one "playoff game"... ... so there's that. Late in his career he had Dr. Frank (who won a championship under Collier) and then Ken Anderson in Cinci after the team got pretty good. Both QBs were better than good. Bottom line: While a great innovator in his days in H.S., college, the AAFC and early NFL, the NFL caught up with pretty quickly. Not even good QBs could help him enough to make, let alone go deep into the playoffs. Perhaps the key to the Browns was Jim Brown? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/04/inside-the-browns-decision-to-sign-jadeveon-clowney-terry-pluto.html?outputType=amp I'm still on the fence over clowney. WSS Not me. And here is why because this is exactly how I see him. "6. The Browns aren’t thinking about their line in the traditional four-man front with two defensive tackles and two defensive ends lining up in the same spots. They see Clowney as a versatile player who can line up at defensive end or inside. He is very strong against the run, perhaps his best attribute. That allows the Browns to move him into various spots along the line." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 12. The Browns don’t say this, but you can view the Clowney signing as a low-risk gamble with a possible high payoff. It’s doubtful they’d find someone in this draft capable of immediately producing to the level of a reasonably healthy Clowney. If he struggles and/or is injured, the defense doesn’t rise or fall with him. ---------- I 'upvote' this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/are-you-smiling-about-the-browns-draft-if-so-why-not-i-feel-the-same-way-terry-pluto.html?outputType=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/are-you-smiling-about-the-browns-draft-if-so-why-not-i-feel-the-same-way-terry-pluto.html?outputType=amp Bottom line- "We just watched Part 2 over the last few months. This should be a much better defense now than a year ago." Much like the offense was better in 2020. And I think we added some very special ST players as well. That has been under publicized, but there are 3 major parts to a real competitive team, not just two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/how-about-some-guys-from-ohio-state-and-cincinnati-terry-plutos-browns-scribbles.html?outputType=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 PLUTO MERCURY URANUS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orion Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 Quote 10. So the Browns after five rounds picked two linebackers. Now there’s something I never expected to write about this draft, given how the Browns have tended to downgrade the position in the past. ...but that was one of the Browns biggest needs. And they've shown that some of the LB'ers that they already have really don't fit their new model for the position. (and they actually traded UP for one - sacrilege!) I wasn't too suprised. I expected at least one to be chosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted May 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/draft-is-over-so-lets-take-a-realistic-look-at-what-it-means-in-2021-terrys-talkin-browns.html?outputType=amp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 Pluto is good. He sees what we see and tells it like we see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 PLUTO: CLEVELAND, Ohio – Talking to myself about the Browns’ draft now that a few weeks have passed: QUESTION: How many of the rookies will start this season? ANSWER: Probably one. Q: One? ONE? I thought they had a great draft. A: Browns fans have to adjust to a shocking fact of life – they really do have a good team. There are some people who can claim the 11-5 record was fluke thanks to a weak schedule, a few breaks, etc. Let’s say they were 10-6 or even 9-7...... And they're not picking 1st anymore. We BROWNS fans still have to adjust to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 I was almost going to take a sip of coffee, and didn't. Sure enough, I laughed out loud at this one: URANUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/any-comparison-to-1981-browns-baker-a-system-qb-how-about-jadeveon-clowney-hey-terry.html?outputType=amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/sports-4-cle/2021/05/terry-pluto-on-otas-baker-mayfield-and-jadeveon-clowney-matt-dery-on-current-state-of-indians-on-wednesdays-sports-4-cle.html?outputType=amp Fair amount of bs before the video starts. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/are-they-legit-super-bowl-contenders-or-will-fans-be-burned-again-terrys-talkin-browns.html Not one of Terry's best... Getting burned is always possible, but there are degrees. It's not as if we are prohibitive favorites to "win it all". And nothing burns like 0-16... except maybe 1-31... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted May 30, 2021 Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Getting burned is always possible, but there are degrees. It's not as if we are prohibitive favorites to "win it all". And nothing burns like 0-16... except maybe 1-31... Exactly. I'm not buying into all of the hype about our defense, or any other hype by the media - and some fans, regarding anything. I'm expecting a winning season and will be disappointed with anything south of 9-7, but it would have to be a total shit show for me to be 'burned', and I believe in Kevin too much for that to be a fear of mine. The Browns have lots of new faces and they'll have to dodge the injury and COVID opponents, get some lucky bounces and calls, and beat some really good teams just to live up to the lofty hype that has been bestowed to them... none of those are gimmies. ^ So that was a long winded way of saying I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the realistic and will be wearing 100SPF all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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