CaineDeSoulis Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 http://draftbreakdown.com/video/davis-webb-vs-san-diego-state-2016/I Watched the 2 games posted here and a few other videos and I came away more impressed with this kid than the other top draft prospects of which I've watched more than few videos on each. I've been a supporter Luke Falk but I am REALLY intrigued by what i have seen from Webb. He has a sorta sidearm throw that's a little concerning but as it sits he really makes those 35-40+yard throws look effortless. He has the prototypical size 6'5" 225lb. I'm having a tough time judging just how much arm strength he has because of how easy he makes his throws look. but I can assure you it's more than most with the exception of maybe Kelly but you could argue for either having the stronger arm. He was a transfer from Texas Tech so i really didn't read much into him but damn he can really sling the ball. Now he has some issues with consistency and in the san diego state game he had a bad turnover on the blown screen and the game ender on a GREAT defensive play (Jumped the route).I Honestly cant sit here and give you one reason why he looks better than the rest to me but he looks better than the rest. Secondly he's playing at Cal so if Hue had some connections to the golden bears he's going to have an inside track with Webb. He's also playing in the same offense as Jared Goff so thats where the direct comparison will be i think.Looks Great to me everyone I honestly don't know if we'll be taking a QB at the top of the draft yet again this year. I Really think our needs at offensive line need to be addressed as well as our Linebackers and secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 http://draftbreakdown.com/video/davis-webb-vs-san-diego-state-2016/ I Watched the 2 games posted here and a few other videos and I came away more impressed with this kid than the other top draft prospects of which I've watched more than few videos on each. I've been a supporter Luke Falk but I am REALLY intrigued by what i have seen from Webb. He has a sorta sidearm throw that's a little concerning but as it sits he really makes those 35-40+yard throws look effortless. He has the prototypical size 6'5" 225lb. I'm having a tough time judging just how much arm strength he has because of how easy he makes his throws look. but I can assure you it's more than most with the exception of maybe Kelly but you could argue for either having the stronger arm. He was a transfer from Texas Tech so i really didn't read much into him but damn he can really sling the ball. Now he has some issues with consistency and in the san diego state game he had a bad turnover on the blown screen and the game ender on a GREAT defensive play (Jumped the route).I Honestly cant sit here and give you one reason why he looks better than the rest to me but he looks better than the rest. Secondly he's playing at Cal so if Hue had some connections to the golden bears he's going to have an inside track with Webb. He's also playing in the same offense as Jared Goff so thats where the direct comparison will be i think. Looks Great to me everyone I honestly don't know if we'll be taking a QB at the top of the draft yet again this year. I Really think our needs at offensive line need to be addressed as well as our Linebackers and secondary. I watched a lot of the SDSU game and the Texas game and he looked pretty good. When your QB throws 72 passes in a game there's bound to be a couple of INT's. He is a big guy with a strong arm. I'm not sure that the Jared Goff comparison is really a good one since he's sitting on the bench behind Case Keenum and would appear to be dumber than a box of rocks everytime I hear him speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Johnny's QB coach is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I watched a lot of the SDSU game and the Texas game and he looked pretty good. When your QB throws 72 passes in a game there's bound to be a couple of INT's. He is a big guy with a strong arm. I'm not sure that the Jared Goff comparison is really a good one since he's sitting on the bench behind Case Keenum and would appear to be dumber than a box of rocks everytime I hear him speak. well no I'm not saying that he is similar to Jared Goff I'm saying he played in the same system so you can kinda see which one will flourish more in that system. It's just kinda cool that we can compare in that aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Johnny's QB coach is his. Who's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Who's that? Jack Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Jake Spavital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Jake Spavital Then stay away from this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 That guy looks effortless throwing it long. Meaning someone will fall in love. But it's such a small part of being a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Seems inaccurate - lots of the short throws the receiver had to adjust to make the catch before going for extra yards. plenty of yards left on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I like this guy a lot. Also like Deshonne Kizer from Notre Dame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 So, are you saying that this Cal QB may be better than the last Cal QB.....who, by the way, was the #1 overall pick in the draft? (FYI, it wouldn't surprise me if that is the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Idk too early for me to judge the QB draft class - so much can change between now and the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Idk too early for me to judge the QB draft class - so much can change between now and the combine. Too late, Gipper's made his mind up. Next april when people are talking about this guy in the fifth round, gipper will be asking why we're not taking him first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Too late, Gipper's made his mind up. Next april when people are talking about this guy in the fifth round, gipper will be asking why we're not taking him first overall. No, I just said that this guy may end better than Goff. (Even as a 5th rounder, this may be the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Seems inaccurate - lots of the short throws the receiver had to adjust to make the catch before going for extra yards. plenty of yards left on the field. Michael Vick then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Davis webb went 32/56 57% completion for 478 yds 5 TD and 2 INT. In a loss to Arizona State. of the 2 ints he threw both were poor decision making one being a pick 6 and the other could have been. One came on short slant route that was jumped ny the defender (pick 6) the other was a slant across mid field where he failed to look off the mlb enough. Of the 5 td 1 was a catch and run screen for 74 yds. 4 were 19 to 26 yds td passes that were absolutely beautifully thrown balls placement being his strong suit at the intermediate to long range. Overall the completion percentage was a little low at 57% and the turnovers were decision based. But bear in mind when you basically replace running with quick ins and wr screens your going to have ints from defenders making plays. Honestly i think webb would be better suited to a more traditional prostyle offense than air raid atleast thats what his games suggest. Puts him at over 1800 passing yards with 18 tds and 5 Ints on the year. He's being projected to break all of goffs single season records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Well he was half of every receiving highlight in the senior bowl practice for the south team lets see what he does in the real game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000720245/article/nfl-exec-cals-davis-webb-has-much-better-arm-than-jared-goff Well, he has the arm, apparently. Who knows. Ranked about 4th or 5th round. I suppose he would be like Weeden or Anderson. or not. Without a lot more information, ... not interested much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well MVP of the senior bowl is a pretty good showing. He really flourished in a pro offense. 11-16 165 yds and a TD. Also picked up a first down on 4th with his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 doesn't sound like it. The pros are a giant step up. I wouldn't waste a pick on him. Not even as a FA. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/davis-webb?id=2557897 WEAKNESSES Robotic decision-making. Decision on where to go with ball seems predetermined despite coverages. Needs to get better at manipulating safeties with his eyes. Inconsistent velocity to sideline causes nose of ball to dip. Drive throws sometime sail. Has slow setup in pocket with excessive pre-release steps. Cornerbacks contest too many throws due to lack of anticipation. Timing passes must come out sooner. Plagued by accuracy issues and decision-making outside the numbers on both intermediate and deep throws. Five of his 12 interceptions in 2016 were along deep sidelines due to under-throws and failure to read safety help. Touch and placement are an issue when forced to leave the pocket. Not a factor as a scrambler. SOURCES TELL US "He obviously is going to need coaching after being in those offenses at Texas Tech and Cal. I think he has enough between the ears to unlearn some of his bad habits and start to get things right. I see another Nick Foles if you give him time to develop." -- AFC area scout NFL COMPARISON Brock Osweiler BOTTOM LINE System quarterback with more than 65 percent of his attempts coming inside of 10 yards. Webb has enough raw talent to be considered a developmental prospect, but his decision-making and accuracy issues beyond 10 yards is a big red flag that might be tough to overcome in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jake-locker?id=2495194Well according to the same site this guy will be a future all pro QBi'd really suggest watching tape aswell looking up the senior bowl. He made every other QB there look foolish and he still has workable issue with his footwork and dropbacks but he has just as much potential as kizer/trubisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi There was an article the other day that specified we have 4 compensatory picks but 2 have already been traded leaving us with 2 comp picks in April. I believe the 2 we have left are in the 4th and 5th round but you might want to confirm that. I share your enthusiasm Gumby! Zay Jones was fun to watch. Runs good routes and catches well with his hands like you said. If all 3 of his TDs counted (or just 2 of them) - he's the MVP of that game. How about that Safety - Lorenzo Jerome out of St Francis? That guy produced more turnovers than Pillsbury yesterday. Speaking of St Francis, 3 turnovers in 1 game left the opponent thinking "Lighten up Francis!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I was really impressed with what I saw from arm strength to pocket presence to size to accuracy (especially considering how long he's worked with the receivers). That said, I've only seen a small fraction of his work. I think it was a smart move to transfer out of the CFL QB Meat Market there in the Big 12 to Cal. The good news is he's not going to be a first round QB which places him somewhat in bargain shopper territory. The guy threw 37 TD passes last year and maintained over a 61% completion rate throughout his college career. He has weaknesses just like any other QB in this draft; but we're drafting football ahead in lieu of what's parked in the rear view mirror. He could be a very good pick for somebody. It ain't a huge haystack this year making the needle easier to find especially after it's been threaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I like Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 How about that Safety - Lorenzo Jerome out of St Francis? That guy produced more turnovers than Pillsbury yesterday. Speaking of St Francis, 3 turnovers in 1 game left the opponent thinking "Lighten up Francis!" Tour is your guy that had this guy early.He posted a mock that had this kid that no one knew about including me. Than the St.Francis of Jerome stock took off..#inTourSashiwetrust (get this tour2ma kid in the war room) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Tour is your guy that had this guy early.He posted a mock that had this kid that no one knew about including me. Than the St.Francis of Jerome stock took off..#inTourSashiwetrust (get this tour2ma kid in the war room) Worthy of note! Looking at the game yesterday, it looks like that was 1 hell of a Tour Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi not sure when they announce the comp picks.....but have noticed that the draft game has added them.....we are upto 13 picks now.... Looks like they are giving us a late 3rd, late 4th and late 5th.....(the 3rd will go to NE for Collins tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 not sure when they announce the comp picks.....but have noticed that the draft game has added them.....we are upto 13 picks now.... Looks like they are giving us a late 3rd, late 4th and late 5th.....(the 3rd will go to NE for Collins tho) Oh goody, more WRs for all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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