bbedward Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-coach-hue-jackson-lines-up-offensive-assistants-but-says-he-doesn-t-plan-to-hire-an-offensive-coordinator-1.655024 Seems like he wants to keep calling the plays, but only have offensive assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I assumed this would be the case and I like it. Taking the lead and trusting himself, Pettine could learn something in that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 No real mention in the article if DeFlip would be one of the offensive assistants. I imagine even if he was offered he would rather try to get an OC job elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I don't hate the idea, I get that he's an offensive guy and wants to run his offense - but hopefully it doesn't detract too much of his attention from the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 "Fritz Pollard Alliance" what is this? is this where we are primarily getting our coaches from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Im ok with it long as he gets a real good dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I assumed this would be the case and I like it. Taking the lead and trusting himself, Pettine could learn something in that... Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Didn't the Browns go the "no-OC" route once before, under Pat Shur-loss? Here's hoping Hue has better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Is leslie Frasier an alliance member? Because Cover 2/Tampa 2. Would be an interesting look for the browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Didn't the Browns go the "no-OC" route once before, under Pat Shur-loss? Here's hoping Hue has better results. Yea but Pat never ran a successful offense in his career, whereas Hue has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yea but Pat never ran a successful offense in his career, whereas Hue has. True, but this team's offensive talent is rather lacking, when compared with other offenses Hue ran, so I have my doubts as to the effectiveness of his strategy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I assumed this would be the case and I like it. Taking the lead and trusting himself, Pettine could learn something in that... Bingo & well done on Pet. Don't see our division changing a damn thing in their defensive looks either. Hue is in the best situation to jump in & perform both duties. around here, damn it will be nice not to point a finger at anybody but yourself if it fails. That's what leaders are suppose to do. Now it's on the right personal & starts at a QB reading what he sees. This is where I think Dalton got better in 2015. Now lets hope Hue can get the ball out of Josh's hand & not hold it for Drago Ball!! Shur-lose never had a clue & never had Hue's experience in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Report: Browns' Hue Jackson meeting with Pep Hamilton Jan 15 2016, 5:03 PMDan Wilkins Introduced as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns on Wednesday, Hue Jackson is already putting together his staff for the 2016 season. Jackson is meeting with former Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton on Friday, according to Tony Grossi of ESPN. While it's not yet clear which position Hamilton is being considered for, offensive coordinator is one of many roles Jackson will need to fill. Hamilton, 41, returned to the NFL in 2013 after a brief stint at Stanford, overseeing the Colts' offense for two-plus seasons before being fired eight weeks into the 2015 campaign. The unit was among the league's most productive before its slow start this past season, finishing 2014 ranked third in total yardage and sixth in points. Jackson has not yet indicated whether he'd continue to call offensive plays as head coach, though he did maintain that responsibility during his one season at the helm of the Oakland Raiders in 2011. He has the name...Pep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedawg69 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I don't know for sure; but, I think he wants to call the plays until the OC can prove to Hue that he is ready to take over the job. A lot of successful leaders will do things this way. They lead by example first and then when a follower shows enough potential, the leader will delegate to them. I could be wrong but it makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Didn't the Browns go the "no-OC" route once before, under Pat Shur-loss? Here's hoping Hue has better results. Also with Marty if I'm not mistaken, with the DC. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Anybody have any insight on Pep Hamilton? I know he was the OC for Stanford and later got canned by the Colts. What kind of offense does he run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Pep is listed as a West Coast guy, but seemed more spread to me... I assumed this would be the case and I like it. Taking the lead and trusting himself, Pettine could learn something in that... Pet did learn... He learned that an HC cannot focus on one side of the too much. I can see an HC reserving play-calling responsibilities, but to not name an OC??? Don't like that at all. Among other things it creates too many direct reports for the HC at too many different levels in the Staff Organization. Didn't the Browns go the "no-OC" route once before, under Pat Shur-loss? Here's hoping Hue has better results. Marty, too... cost him his Browns HC gig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I've listened to a bunch of PFF broadcasts breaking down Pep's failures with Luck, and boy were they legion. He would always have Luck doing 5-7 step drops and throwing deep despite the fact that their OL was average and Luck's deep ball is also pretty average. Made no sense yet the rammed that square peg into that round hole until the dang thing broke. He had pretty much zero running game whatsoever. No thank you. Also strikes me as very dumb to not hire an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 head coach in the NFL is too time consuming a job by itself without trying to also handle the duties of an offensive coordinator, ESPECIALLY in your first year. merely calling plays on gameday is altogether different. it is a good way for new blood to learn how you like to have your system run firsthand, including your philosophy and mindset behind it and what, when, where, and how to employ wrinkles you are partial to. hopefully they hire an OC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 "Fritz Pollard Alliance" what is this? is this where we are primarily getting our coaches from? http://fritzpollard.org/mission/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 merely calling plays on gameday is altogether different. it is a good way for new blood to learn how you like to have your system run firsthand, including your philosophy and mindset behind it and what, when, where, and how to employ wrinkles you are partial to. hopefully they hire an OC... Good take right here......and, if I was putting a positive spin on no OC, this would be it..... Im sure there will be someone, other than Hue, game planning and strategizing during the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Good take right here......and, if I was putting a positive spin on no OC, this would be it..... Im sure there will be someone, other than Hue, game planning and strategizing during the week Associate HC and senior offensive Assistant seem like they fit the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 ... not to mention Run Game Coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Associate HC and senior offensive Assistant seem like they fit the bill ... not to mention Run Game Coordinator. Cheez whiz....Thats a lotta titles..... Next well have an associate offensive senior assistant coordinator in charge of run blocking and blitz protection......otherwise known as OLine coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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