Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I figure to comment on most of your subjects, Chris, but I thought the post it self was too widespread so I'm isolating this, and probably others, as individual subject. I began by enforcing the laws on the books. I would like to see the 14th amendment changed or repealed. The children born to illegal immigrants would be illegal as well.. As to legal immigration I would geease the skids, make it easier for people to legally apply for and receive citizen ship within the United States. I would give bonus points for immigrants who are educated and can bring a needed skill set to the country. We need the best and brightest to come here and contribute as we did with defectors during World War 2. Of course I want background and health checks. as for those extremely poor and illiterate immigrants who have little to offer besides cheap labor, which includes many of them living here now, I want a guest worker program. You can stay and contribute but you must be documented. I think that's a half way mark between free citizenship and deportation. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 the 14th amendment, saying that if you're born in the US, you're de facto american? Apart from people sneaking over the border to give birth, what's the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think he means changed to reflect that tourists/illegals who have children here are not automatically U.S. Citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Right, I can get behind that. Perhaps then rather than repealing it, amend it such that if reflects the fact that you have citizenship if you are born in the US to a mother or father who has the right to live and work in the US indefinitely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Right, I can get behind that. Perhaps then rather than repealing it, amend it such that if reflects the fact that you have citizenship if you are born in the US to a mother or father who has the right to live and work in the US indefinitely?actually I thought that was reasonably clear since I said changed or repealed. Today two illegal immigrants can squirt out a pup on US soil and it is immediately an American citizen. I would change it so that the child would be the same status as its parents.WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 OK so I'm 28, have a masters degree and have been in my current job a few years - good enough? You would likely fit under the second tier with a masters degree alone, http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/employment.html, so you would get fast tracked if you felt like immigrating to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 actually I thought that was reasonably clear since I said changed or repealed. Today two illegal immigrants can squirt out a pup on US soil and it is immediately an American citizen. I would change it so that the child would be the same status as its parents. WSS I wouldn't mind seeing it amended to people who are here legally, for any reason(temporary work permit/refugee/etc.) but it would take 2/3rds of the states to agree on something and I don't see that happening lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't mind seeing it amended to people who are here legally, for any reason(temporary work permit/refugee/etc.) but it would take 2/3rds of the states to agree on something and I don't see that happening lol. Heh, I'd be surprised if anything worthwhile can actually be done about anything... But cynicism aside that would be what Id do if were it in my power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Duh I misunderstood you Chris. I guess I need to be deported myself! Yes with your qualifications I'd say you are fast tracked. Well you do speak English right? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Duh I misunderstood you Chris. I guess I need to be deported myself! Yes with your qualifications I'd say you are fast tracked. Well you do speak English right? WSS Yes ser, I speek de gud Inglish, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Tricky part would be getting the job offer without actually being in the US. Other places I've been to you can get a work visa without actually having a job lined up, and it lets you stay for 6 months or something until you get a job, and if not then you're on your way back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Tricky part would be getting the job offer without actually being in the US. Other places I've been to you can get a work visa without actually having a job lined up, and it lets you stay for 6 months or something until you get a job, and if not then you're on your way back home. We will do that when I'm dictator, don't worry. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I do know that taxes are a lot less here then in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I do know that taxes are a lot less here then in the UK. Yes, but they usually pay more elsewhere(such as the cost of Gas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I don't understand your post. I said they pay more taxes in England then the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah I think there was something lost in translation. Brits definitely get hammered on taxes. Even worse at the pump.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My ex-roommate is from philly, and he basically, reckons that if something costs $10 in NYC, it costs £10 here, for example, that everything is one to one, except wages, where if you earn $100k there is'nt about £60k here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 My ex-roommate is from philly, and he basically, reckons that if something costs $10 in NYC, it costs £10 here, for example, that everything is one to one, except wages, where if you earn $100k there is'nt about £60k here. The few Brits I worked with went bananas when they were brought in for contract work and were getting paid by their home office. They marveled at how cheap everything was compared to home due to the conversion rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Also, I would avoid NYC like dick cancer. Visit but don't live there. I dated a girl who lived in Brooklyn (by the bridge and Dumbo Park) and NYC is meant to be visited but not lived in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't understand your post. I said they pay more taxes in England then the US. It was my fault I misread your post, thought you had said they paid less in taxes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 It was my fault I misread your post, thought you had said they paid less in taxes.... Nope, taxes are high and cost of living is high. If I get a pay rise of a few £k, then I'm in to the 40% bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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