DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Obama tees off into birthday weekend with golf . View gallery . DARLENE SUPERVILLE 9 hours agoPoliticsBarack ObamaWhite HouseMichelle Obama WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama kicked off his birthday weekend Saturday with a round of golf with friends and a getaway to Camp David. Obama, who turns 52 on Sunday, left the White House just after 8 a.m. EDT — that's unusually early for the half-hour motorcade ride to Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland — to squeeze in some golf before the celebration shifted to the presidential retreat nestled in Maryland's Catoctin Mountains. Before leaving, officials said Obama's counterterrorism adviser updated him on a potential al-Qaida threat that led the State Department on Friday to issue a global travel warning to Americans and order the weekend closure of 21 embassies and consulates across the Muslim world. The White House said the president's three golfing foursomes included some of his friends from Hawaii, where he grew up, and Chicago, where he lived before becoming president, along with current and former aides. Among them were childhood friends Bobby Titcomb and Mike Ramos, and Chicago pals Marty Nesbitt and Eric Whitaker. White House aides Marvin Nicholson and Sam Kass, an assistant chef, rounded out the group, along with Reggie Love, who for years had been Obama's personal assistant, or "body man," and basketball buddy until he left the White House in late 2011 to work on getting an MBA. View gallery." President Barack Obama, second from left, jogs up the ramp of Marine One as he leaves Andrews Air Fo … Due to the limited number of seats, only the winners at golf — Love, Kass and two other players — got to join Obama on the presidential helicopter. The losers went the long way, by car. First lady Michelle Obama traveled to Camp David separately. The White House said little about how Obama would celebrate on Saturday night and Sunday, but the birthday wishes started rolling in early. House Democrats presented Obama with a birthday cake when he went up to the Capitol this week, and American Legion youth members sang "Happy Birthday" to him during a White House visit late last month. For last year's birthday, which fell during his heated campaign for re-election, Obama also celebrated with a round of golf before heading to Camp David. But he later held several birthday-themed campaign fundraisers in Chicago, including one at his family's South Side home. Obama is scheduled to return to the White House on Sunday. ___ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I too am going golfing, in about an hour. I hope the world doesn't come to an end before I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Obamao = Imelda Marcos with a thousand pair of shoes. Shoving extravagance in their country's face, and laughing at it all. This failing dirtbag should never have gotten elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Obamao = Imelda Marcos with a thousand pair of shoes. Shoving extravagance in their country's face, and laughing at it all. This failing dirtbag should never have gotten elected. The reason he won is because the Republican's that ran against him sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 The place where he wears his phone is just plain weird. Who wears their phone straight up and down like that? And on the middle front too. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 The reason he won is because the Republican's that ran against him sucked Browns149 ************************************* And that is true, except McCain isn't a real Republican. I don't even know what he is, except for a wishy-washy, spineless politician. He should have been a democrat a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 And that is true, except McCain isn't a real Republican. I don't even know what he is, except for a wishy-washy, spineless politician. He should have been a democrat a long time ago. Plus he had Palin with him. Any ticket with her on it is going to lose for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Actually, without Palin he would have lost handily. McCain himiself said Palin bumped him up 3 pts in the polls. He was playing both sides, and still was too much a loser to win. I really, really wanted him to not get the nomination. It's getting so any Rep who runs for president knows he will get smeared, his family ridiculed and attacked to the very end. Sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Get off your high horse Cal. You honestly think only one side plays dirty politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FairHooker11 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 The reason he won is because the Republican's that ran against him sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So its everyone else's fault? It is the part of the population you don't like, their fault. Not the Republican party? Not the candidates for having too conservative of a stance on certain issues? Sounds like a sore loser to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 actually woody its real simple. You are correct the world is changing. Those who preach self reliance and so forth will probably be left in the past. But as society becomes more and more socialistic people will probably have a hard time voting against free stuff. And I don't mean just welfare. Still as you correctly pointed out those are the changes that are being implemented with every passing generation. And it doesn't really matter if it's good for us or if I like it or if some party called Republican or Democrat prospers it is what it is sir. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yeah yeah, "They just promise free stuff for votes". I've heard that from you plenty of times. You really think it was just based completely on the "free stuff" angle? Nothing at all about the candidates or any other of their policy views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well I don't think anything is based solely on any one factor. But yes I do think that's a major part of it. Republican or Democrat people will vote for the person they think will facilitate them and getting a better deal. Free school loans will appeal to students. free healthcare appeals to anyone who doesn't want to pay insurance premiums. Food stamps even if you don't really need them are a nice little bonus. Boost Social Security? Seniors are on your side. Strong military benefits folks in states with military contracts and or bases. I just think that when given the choice voting for something that benefits us personally or our sub group personally will almost always trump the minor issues we delight in fighting about.gay marriage civil rightsschool prayer displaying the Ten Commandments in the lobby, all of that will take a back seat to your own pocket book. and it's not like one candidate sucks and one candidate rules. These guys are pretty much the same. maybe if we really did have Hitler running against St Francis but... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Military benefits and ss are earned, though. Well, except for the disabled, and the fakers who pretend to be disabled. The disabled deserve those benefits, need em. There is no free stuff community with leaders like Sharpton, jackson, Sheila lee, etc etc etc etc etc... like the black community. Blacks revere MLK, but I never even heard Frederick Douglas's story. He is the key to bringing Americans together, and uplifting the minorities and influencing them a better direction than the false promises and dependency on the dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I didn't mention military benefits. I mentioned contract and bases which bring economic profit. But I would object to Social Security being earned. When the Ponzi scheme gets too top heavy it flips over. When we start paying out more often we take in its welfare. If it was strictly earned then once the benefits exceeded what you had put in that would be the end of the line for the individual. One could also argue that public employees unions benefits are earned as well. But even if you took that side you have to face the fact that it's quite possible the benefits will eventually become too much for society to pay. Just bear in mind that when that point arrives those who receive those benefits will probably vote to keep them. And those who are forced to pay them will probably balk. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 And you don't win elections by bringing people together. Maybe in the few months after an enemy attack but that's about it. The key to success lately has been divide and conquer. I think we should remember that while we morally agree that disabled people deserve some benefit ask yourself how the vote would go if one side proposed linking say, drug testing to disability benefits? Or one side proposed stricter testing to see if the recipients actually were disabled? How do you think that vote would go? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 My SS benefits are damn sure earned. I've been paying into it since I was 16, so over 43 years. Not my problem that the government stole the money for other programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 1. You posted "Strong military benefits folks in states with military contracts". That is mentioning "military benefits". If I wrote a search algorithm for "military benefits" it would be found in your post, dangit. 2. SS is calculated based on one's earned income over the work lifetime to retirement date. That is earned. The right to receive it is earned. Now, if you live to be 95 whatever, and your SS supercedes what you earned, it's still an earned benefit. You earned the right to receive that benefit for the rest of your days. 3.I wonder how a black repub candidate would do in a pres election. I'd vote for K. Carl Smith over most candidates in the field. But would the black community avoid him, because of his Frederick Douglas stances? Mostly? Partly? Eventually, we have to get past the racial divide in politics. But that requires the part of the black community that lives in total dependency on the free stuff from dems, to get on the Frederick Douglas train as the most important start towards self sufficiency. 4. For now ,that is a good point. The rolls of welfare dived with the attempted work requirement. They skyrocketed when that requirement was shelved by you know who. Drug testing? Yes. But they say "no". And there are a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well Steve, its not like ONLY the group receiving benefits is voting. I'm sure there'd be a group that agrees with drug testing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Benefits is used as a verb....... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I would vote for drug testing people on welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Benefits is used as a verb.......WSS *************** Well.... I kinda almost knew that. @@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Benefits is used as a verb....... WSS *************** Well.... I kinda almost knew that. @@ I should have been more clear, my fault. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Well Steve, its not like ONLY the group receiving benefits is voting. I'm sure there'd be a group that agrees with drug testing as well.Yes of course there will always be some voters on the other side. But when most of the population is getting some free stuff, whatever it may be, they will usually outnumber the providers and those who don't want free stuff. Or more specifically don't want to pay for the free stuff. I don't have a link or a study but I would guess there are more cockroaches in the world then there are Border Collies.WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I was going to ask a question, but you said you don't have a link or a study, so nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I was going to ask a question, but you said you don't have a link or a study, so nevermind.Fair enough.If you think there are more border collies than cockroaches... Actually many many things should just be self evident and often its hard to find an exact set off graphs or charts on the net. But we are grown ups here and you are always free to say that you honestly don't believe something. Unless I'm just being facetious anything I say is something I believe to be true whether or not I can give chapter and verse of where I read or saw it. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I like to stand by beliefs that can be proven or at least have facts and science on their side (hence the religion thing). Instead of just anecdotal evidence or beliefs that have been passed down and unchallenged or whatever. I'm just saying that you think you can just go "free stuff" and win an election. Like you said, people do enjoy free stuff, but not everyone will blindly take it because they realize its not actually free. Between those people and the people against free stuff because they aren't getting any I would think the opposition would be pretty decent. But I also don't have any charts on me right now. If I can poke holes in your side easily enough though, and its the same old thing you've been saying since it was clear Obama would win, I don't see a reason to agree without any facts to support it. Plus, I'd think you have the burden of proof here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Of course while you may like to think of yourself as being very analytical the great bulk of your posts never exceed the intellectual limit of calling somebody idiot or old. Just saying. But if you think I'm saying something that's wrong rather that bitch that I haven't provided you with a satisfactory graph feel free to post one that proves me wrong. That's what you did when we were discussing whether or not Mexico is a third world shit hole. I believe you ended up incorrect in that particular instance but it was well done that you found something that contradicted what I said. I then pointed out that there was a new chart updated in 2013. But point taken. If the battle cry is for more programs and benefits that should be paid for by taxing the rich I would say that there are lots more what programs and benefits than rich people. If you think that's incorrect feel free to find me a graph that shows most people in America are considered rich. If not then you might want to spin it some other way. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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