heckofajobbrownie Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's like he can't even read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find the irony overwhelming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Heckbunker and Woody translations: "Why, oh why, won't it go away...boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo...'sniff' ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 IRS Scandal Fizzles as Issue for Republicans Bloomberg: "The Internal Revenue Service used terms such as 'progressive' and evidence of advocacy on Israel to flag groups' tax-exempt applications for extra attention, complicating what had been seen as targeted scrutiny for small-government groups." First Read: "The IRS controversy/scandal looks much more like an agency controversy/scandal (where wrongdoing was committed by bureaucrats) than a full-blown political controversy/scandal (where it goes all the way to the top). And in retrospect, that also applies to those Benghazi talking points." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Could be Heck. I suppose you would need to prove that the progressive, Jewish etc group were targeted in equal or at least proportional numbers and faced the similar delays. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Well, not really. You'd have to prove that the targeting was directed from someone above - someone with a political motivation. Otherwise you've just got bureaucratic clumsiness. There's no evidence of political motivations. You've got no ties to the White House, to any Democratic official. You don't even have any political direction from anyone in the Washington office of the IRS. The only person they can find who designed these searches is a conservative Republican. It's simply not a political scandal. It looked like it was and then ...it turned out it really wasn't. Now, what did I say about the Republicans overplaying their hand? Well, watch them continue to embarrass themselves as yet another one of their scandals crumbles. Because they "don't stop believing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Meanwhile, it gets worse for the IRS. Corruption abounds, and this Obamao regime is losing respect all over the world because of lies, damn spying lies, corruption, and incompetence. It doesn't have to come directly from Obamao in printed form, for it not to be wrong. Targeting was sure the hell done, and that's a disgrace worse than Watergate. And, "BLOOMBERG" as an authoritative source? LOL LOL http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/25/usa-tax-irs-contracting-idUSL2N0F110O20130625?feedType=RSS&feedName=bondsNews&rpc=43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Bloomberg: bad The Blaze: good. Welcome to the Republican Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hang on to that feeeelliiinnng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The IRS gets even worse. More fraud. Obamao put most all these people in gov. Now all these dept scandals? The buck stops with ObaMao. http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/DA7512Q00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Worse again. It's like heckbunker is afraid to read. http://news.yahoo.com/irs-consumer-group-wants-apology-payments-amid-tea-140418140.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Well, not really. You'd have to prove that the targeting was directed from someone above - someone with a political motivation. Otherwise you've just got bureaucratic clumsiness. There's no evidence of political motivations. " well we are talking about two different things. I think you are probably correct and if there is a link to the White House it has been hidden well enough. However political motivation would be clear if, in fact, that only a few liberal organizations were targeted and were given less stringentscrutiny and or delay time than conservatives. You understand that I'm sure.like if a sobriety checkpoint stopped almost all black motorists but claimed it was fair because they also stopped a few whites and then it turned out that the lights were released within minutes while the blacks waited for an hour or more. It doesn't mean that its not politically motivated. but no matter. Whether it was a bureaucratic mistake or someone trying to do something on their own to boost the Democrats it probably won't reach Pennsylvania Avenue. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sorry to disappoint you once again. But hey, you can still imagine that it did come from the White House, but "it has been hidden well enough." It's just not going to "reach Pennsylvania Avenue." Easier than going by what the evidence tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think it's enough that Obamao put these dirtbags into his regime in the first place. Holder, Lerner, the whole bunch are radicals who will act out on their idealogy, regardless of whether or not Obamao explicitly told them to, to incur responsibility for their behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 actually the evidence is that someone was targeting conservative group and targeting them in a disproportionate matter. Because that's what happened. my suspicions as to who or why are absolutely meaningless without solid evidence as it should be. So there you are. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 True dat. Though they're often revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think it's enough that Obamao put these dirtbags into his regime in the first place. Holder, Lerner, the whole bunch are radicals who will act out on their idealogy, regardless of whether or not Obamao explicitly told them to, to incur responsibility for their behavior. shouldn't you be posting a thread about the injustice of the gay marriage ban being lifted? this from a majority of conservs on the supreme court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 shouldn't you be posting a thread about the injustice of the gay marriage ban being lifted? this from a majority of conservs on the supreme court. Oh shit. Out of nowhere miktoxic shows up and gets off a good one. Well cal, shouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Beats me. They simply? referred back to the Cali order, right? I don't know if it's a state gets to decide or not. If a state doesn't have a state court overruling a ban, then the ban would stand, and the court would not intervene? I don't know. I'm far more concerned about the evils of the sick and twisted Obamaonazis screwing up our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewy Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Oh shit. Out of nowhere miktoxic shows up and gets off a good one. Well cal, shouldn't you? He shows up now because he may be gay...you're the one that would know for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Try to come back from that one, Cysko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Meanwhile, they are discussing and will vote to recall Ms. Lerner, the central dingbat in the IRS controversy, who one person testified that Lerner was targeted them with nonsense and endless months of delays, etc. And it has now been proven that there was no corresponding degree, not much, of liberal groups being also harrassed and stonewalled like conservative groups were. haha, heckbunker, you stepped in it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 But then the IRS inspector general, a Republican, reported that the entire program came from within the agency, with no direction at all from Obama or any members of his team. It was just an agency scandal. Subsequent revelations have made the matter look even more benign. Apparently, the agency also targeted liberal groups for possible violations, using terms like progressive to flag political groups. In other words, there may be no scandal here at all. The IRS was looking to make sure political groups weren’t abusing the tax code by pretending to be nonpolitical, and it tried to search for such abuses by using terms like tea party and progressive that would signal partisanship. Why did we think the agency was targeting only conservatives? Because apparently Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, ordered the agency to audit its treatment of tea-party groups, and only tea-party groups. The IRS dutifully reported it was indeed targeting tea-party groups; everybody assumed it was doing no such thing to liberal groups. The IRS inspector general is defending its probe, but the IRS's flagging of conservative groups seems, at worst, to be marginally stricter than its flagging of liberal groups, not the one-sided political witch hunt potrayed by early reports. What about the rest of the scandals? Well, there aren’t any, and there never were. Benghazi is a case of a bunch of confused agencies caught up in a fast-moving story trying to coordinate talking points. The ever-shifting third leg of the Obama scandal trifecta — Obama’s prosecution of leaks, or use of the National Security Agency — is not a scandal at all. It’s a policy controversy. One can argue that Obama’s policy stance is wrong, or dangerous, or a threat to democracy. But when the president is carrying out duly passed laws and acting at every stage with judicial approval, then the issue is the laws themselves, not misconduct. That's Jon Chait in Ny Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Baloney. Still clinging to the spin in this thread? ************************************** Heckbunker insisted that the IRS targeting also included "progressives" and liberal groups, so conservative groups were not really targeted. Really? How about a board wide "HAHAHAHAHA !!!" ??? He just cherry picked one allegation, and tried to make the entire IRS scandal go away. And, I'll just post a search, or whatever source I do choose, will just get demeaned again. Heck loves the big lie when it suits his purposes. So, once again, here is "crow pie" for heck's lunch: **************************************************************** Washington Times Watchdog Found IRS Softer on 'Progressives' Than Tea PartiersABC News - by John Parkinson - 20 hours ago “Our audit did not find evidence that the IRS used the 'progressives' identifier as selection criteria for potential political cases between May ... Liberals Eating Crow: The IRS Did Not Target Progressives - Infowars www.infowars.com/liberals-eating-crow-the-irs-did-not-target-progressives/ 18 hours ago – “Our audit did not find evidence that the IRS used the 'progressives' identifier as selection criteria for potential political cases between May ... IRS Inspector General: Conservative Groups Were Definitely ... www.theblaze.com/.../treasury-ig-confirms-irs-scrutiny-wasnt-broad-spec... 22 hours ago – From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you identified, labeled 'progressives,' were used by the IRS to select potential ... IG: 'Progressive' Groups Not Targeted By IRS | National Review Online www.nationalreview.com/.../ig-progressive-groups-not-targeted-irs-elian... 22 hours ago – Liberal and progressive groups were not the subject of undue scrutiny... the criteria you identified, labeled 'Progressives,' were used by the IRS ... Treasury IG Insists: No Indication IRS Used Term 'Progressives' the ... cnsnews.com › News 23 hours ago – "Our audit did not find evidence that the IRS used the "Progressives" identifier as selection criteria for potential political cases between May ... “Progressive” Sideshow Trivializes IRS Victims for Political Theater ... www.redstate.com/.../progressive-sideshow-trivializes-victims-for-politic... 19 hours ago – From our audit work, [TIGTA] did not find evidence that the criteria … labeled “Progressives,” were used by the IRS to select potential political ... IRS auditor reaffirms that conservatives, not liberals, were targeted ... www.washingtontimes.com/.../irs-auditor-reaffirms-conservatives-not-lib... 1 day ago – From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you identified, labeled “Progressives,” were used by the IRS to select potential ... So much for the "IRS hassled progressives too" excuse | Human ... www.humanevents.com/.../so-much-for-the-irs-hassled-progressives-too-ex... 1 day ago – “Our audit did not find evidence that the IRS used the 'progressives' identifier as selection criteria for potential political cases between May ... IRS Investigator: Tea Party Groups Were Scrutinized More Than ... www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/irs-2012-election_n_3510455.html 22 hours ago – "From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you identified, labeled 'Progressives,' were used by the IRS to select potential ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Why make a new thread if you just end up putting it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 There's no proof that this is a political scandal, Cal. You're going to have to come up with some sort of directive instead of what you have, which is a conservative Republican saying that he designed these tests. It's not going to matter for you anyway because you don't think; you hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 You spin, and you hate not to spin. You keep saying it isn't a scandal, because it hasn't been proven that it came from Obamao directly. That's nonsense. It's a scandal because it happened by anybody who wanted to politically help the cause by intimidating and harrassing, and sandbagging conservative groups' applications for tax exempt status. Why do you always change the definition of words and terms, and subjects? Can't you just admit things that are true, and just discuss things that are still up in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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