Earl34 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (WillnAustin) Also? If Colt can't throw the ball, then why does he lead the NCAA in all-time completion percentage? (King Ghoolie) Bernie Kosar was deadly accurate, too. Why, because he threw for 3 yards on 3d and 11. McCoy is Noodles. ON that we all have to agree. Ghoolie, I am going to disagree...sort of. First, Colt McCoy had the highest completion pct in college because of the offense that he ran. Yes, he had the precision but it's much easier to be precise on a slant to Quan Cosby in the Fiesta Bowl than a 20 yard deep out. Second, I don't completely buy the notion that McCoy has a "noodle" arm. His velocity is much better than a Chad Pennington who played for many years because he made up for his lack of arm strength with other traits. McCoy doesn't have a CONSISTENTLY strong arm. That I will grant you. At least once a game however, I think he has been able to (with proper mechanics) drive the ball down the field. Am I the only one who remembers #10 trying throw downfield in 2009 only to see the damned ball go out of bounds because he couldn't keep it in the field of play? I think Colt is a step above that. If Colt McCoy fails in the NFL it will not be because of arm strength. Right now, it seems to me that he's struggling with what he's seeing on the field. His release is quick but he's hesitating which, to me, means that he's not comfortable in the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Did you read what you just wrote? Colt's arm is why he is pressured so much? That is ludicrous and laughable. If he is getting pressured it is because his line is not protecting. It doesn't matter how strong an arm he has. The problem with this offense is not Colt McCoy. He is not perfect, but he is not the major problem. Having a Browns QB throw 61 times in a game is the problem. That should never happen. Even in the NWCO the QB should only be throwing at most 30-35 times a game. Colts problems are totally correctable. 1. He sometimes seems to throw late 2. He sometime throws too much into traffic. The latter problem may be because no one can get open. The #1 and #2 most blitzed QB's in the league right now are Drew Brees and Mike Vick. Both short and one doesn't have a all world canon. Colt's both short and weak armed.....coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 You people knocking McCoy are flat-out wrong. The Browns O-line SUCKS. Get over it. The Browns have 2 first-rounders and 3 players who won't start at any other team in the league -- and the reason McCoy doesn't feel confident is because he shouldn't be. He will get leveled if he doesn't get rid of the ball in 2 seconds.. because the O-line can't block anyone. This isn't random theory, this is objective fact. Go to NFL.com and look at the stats for the O-line.. the Browns O-line is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Funny thread, throw the QB under the bus, when he has nothing to make plays...............Classic Cleveland for 20 years ............and then go woof woof classic cleveland that you continue to follow and knock on this door when it's beneficial to you to either throw a dig at somone or some comment or to become queen of the browns parade for a day. how about this: why don't you go fxk yourself? literally. sure you've got a couple of friends still on this board but when i say a couple...i mean a couple. you could disappear tomorrow and nobody would know or give a fxxk. you are obviously a one-way, selfish piece of shit whose family is praying you'll 'get lost in the woods' one day. how many other teams' forums are you on professing to be a fan of their team only to reveal your ugly fat polish bald head underneath a mask of mitt romney? GO FXXK YOURSELF X 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, or infinity!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 You people knocking McCoy are flat-out wrong. The Browns O-line SUCKS. Get over it. The Browns have 2 first-rounders and 3 players who won't start at any other team in the league -- and the reason McCoy doesn't feel confident is because he shouldn't be. He will get leveled if he doesn't get rid of the ball in 2 seconds.. because the O-line can't block anyone. This isn't random theory, this is objective fact. Go to NFL.com and look at the stats for the O-line.. the Browns O-line is not good. Objective fact? Really??? In those stats for the O-line does it say how long Colt holds onto the ball? Or that he only throws 5 yards down field, or that he's afraid to stand in the pocket????? Make some plays down field and you won't have 8 guys rushing every play....We have a top 10 offensive line in the league, but when there's no threat to throw the ball, there gonna play the run and blitz the hell outta you. A good QB takes advantage of a blitz happy D and give's his receivers a chance downfield. Colt's scrambles outside and throws 2 yards past the line of scrimmage to a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Lets just hope noodles starts pulling the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake24 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Lets just hope noodles starts pulling the trigger please stop talking about your little noodle its game time drinking game....taking shots everytime our WR's cant get open down field and yes looks like i wont be able to drive anywhere tonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 please stop talking about your little noodle its game time drinking game....taking shots everytime our WR's cant get open down field and yes looks like i wont be able to drive anywhere tonite yeah and who's buying the booze, the homeless guy on the skids outside the liquor store? cuz god knows you're not old enough. take it eeeeaaaazzzzyyyy slugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 LOL first pass play MoMass is wide open and he misses him, next play they send more than you can block and he doesn't look for a hot route.....buts thats the O-line and WR's fault right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 "We have a top 10 offensive line in the league" We have one of the top 10 worst offensive lines in the league. Mack is out today, so our line is one first-rounder and four scrubs who wouldn't start for anyone else. What makes you presume MoMass ran the correct route? What makes you presume any receiver noticed the blitz and broke the assigned route off? What makes you assume that, even if a receiver noticed the blitz, that the hot route they switched to.. was run into an open space? You're still wrong. But keep posting, you're very intimidating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 "We have a top 10 offensive line in the league" We have one of the top 10 worst offensive lines in the league. Mack is out today, so our line is one first-rounder and four scrubs who wouldn't start for anyone else. What makes you presume MoMass ran the correct route? What makes you presume any receiver noticed the blitz and broke the assigned route off? What makes you assume that, even if a receiver noticed the blitz, that the hot route they switched to.. was run into an open space? You're still wrong. But keep posting, you're very intimidating! LOL Macks playing....... and to the rest.....Ohh Lord LMFAO your probably right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 what is 'illegal shift' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 what is 'illegal shift' ? If two players are in motion at the same time they have to be reset for atleast one second before the ball is snapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 If two players are in motion at the same time they have to be reset for atleast one second before the ball is snapped thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Lets just hope noodles starts pulling the trigger noodles has pulled the trigger and more than once put the ball directly on the reciever just to have them drop it on man coverage. you have to win those matchups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 He's diffenently pulled the trigger on the deep ball, but I wouldn't say he put any directly on any receiver, one was close just a little over thrown. If only we played in 80 degree sunny Cali weather every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 im talking about short/intermediate throws on out routes or just little curl patterns. cribbs had the ball put a little high but it was in his hands. the long ball was on the money too and the receiver had space on his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 He's diffenently pulled the trigger on the deep ball, but I wouldn't say he put any directly on any receiver, one was close just a little over thrown. If only we played in 80 degree sunny Cali weather every week it has nothing to do with the weather it has to do with your receivers not coming down with catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Are all yall watching the kind of pocket that McCoy has to work with? You can see why its hard to find rhythm. No excuses, but its not all your QBs fault. There are a lot of factors going against a successful passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 It's not 80 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I hate to say it, but he really just doesn't seem to have that playmaker factor. He's a proven winner, however. He just doesn't look like much of a winner lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Passing games looked better, probably because of a combination of stretching the field more, Little getting more reps and the weather. At the beginning of the game they were rushing atleast 6 every down, then we started throwing down field and they backed off...Even though we didn't complete one, you still have to atleast make them think its a threat. He didn't do that in previous games, its good he's making an effort. He has to be able to do it in cold weather consistently too though, thats when most of our games are played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Carlos...all you have are excuses. If noodles has to have a perfect cockpit to succeed, he needs to go. Every pass...even the rd with Boone within 10 yards of him.....are off his back foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Carlos...all you have are excuses. If noodles has to have a perfect cockpit to succeed, he needs to go. Every pass...even the rd with Boone within 10 yards of him.....are off his back foot. cool story bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 im talking about short/intermediate throws on out routes or just little curl patterns. cribbs had the ball put a little high but it was in his hands. the long ball was on the money too and the receiver had space on his man. are you watching the game or pickin tomatoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Carlos been hittin the Tequila? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 the long ball was on the money too and the receiver had space on his man. If the receiver had space on his man and the ball was on the money then who's fault was it? The receiver dove for the ball and still didn't get a hand on it but the ball was on the money? I don't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 You know Montario Hardesty isn't gay... he can't catch balls for shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 If the receiver had space on his man and the ball was on the money then who's fault was it? The receiver dove for the ball and still didn't get a had on it but the ball was on the money? I don't understand? recievers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Carlos been hittin the Tequila? Nah. Also there's no need to capitalize "tequila". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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