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13 minutes ago, runyon27 said:

Ogunjobi should be fined, I don't think shoving Rudolph to the ground is suspension worthy.

Agree...... but it was a pussy move. 

3 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

I don't think anyone is defending it as a punishable offense.

The question is:  how punishable?  

Again, I hate to be a realist....or what some of you may want to call a legalist, but in any situation like this a whole range of factors have to be and probably will be taken into account.

I know that the minds of some of you can't fathom anything that goes beyond the content of what can fit on a bumper sticker, but in real jurisprudence situations, which, again, this is....a full and complete analysis of the entirety of the circumstances will become necessary.

What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".

I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.

WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions?  Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.

23 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

A lot of you are acting just like the Steelers fans you hate. 

Just sayin

Man, imagine if the players were reversed....... Baker instead of Mason, ect, ect, ect.....

Imagine the F U C K I N G crying that would be absolutely rampant throughout this forum. There wouldn't be ONE dude saying that Baker not only deserved it, but should also be suspended too........ NOT ONE MUTHER FUCKING DUDE. 

At the end of the day, Myles hurt his team and there should not be one true FAN that is proud of, or defends that. 

1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said:

I thought Baker Mayfield showed a lot of maturity,  wisdom and leadership in his interview directly after the game with his comments about what Garrett did being inexcusable and hurting the team. We just had a big win over the Steelers coming after a big win over the Bills. We should be celebrating now and moving forward but all anyone is going to talk about is what Garrett did with 8 seconds left in a game we had already won. Now more than ever the team is going to need leadership. Mayfield has taken the first step with his comments and Garrett himself has taken responsibility for his actions and apologized for them. What Garrett did is in the rear view mirror now and today is the first day  of the rest of the season for the Browns. Next up the Dolphins. The Browns can overcome this and move forward but it is going to take leadership. 

Man, I totally agree and that's an understatement. I was blown away by Baker's brutal honesty, especially so soon after the incident....... Too bad a lot of fans are so homeristic that they can't see what a selfish act it was. 

I'm guessing when those people's kids get a D on their test, they immediately blame the teacher and take little Johnny out for some ice cream.

7 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

Well, that isn't any worse than tomlin calling the play he did. What was the point? eight freaking seconds?

I suspect they called that play because they wanted to start a big fight and get Garrett, the Browns' start DE left on the line, suspended.

Remember, Tomlin is the toad that tried to trip a player running down the sideline.  They play the refs. Like their TE shoulder bumping the Browns db, and turning left but the pass was behind him, incomplete. Of course, the refs called pi on the db.

that is just so bogus...

When PoG upvotes your post, you know you have got to really rethink your position on the matter...........

17 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Also did not start with a bat in your hands apparently...

It started with the opposing team having one dude with a bat in his hands...... and no one picked it up and swung it. 

 

One loss of control incident does not make a player dirty.

When you hear the name Albert Haynesworth, what immediately comes to the minds of probably 99.9% of people?  (the .1% being his mom and PoG)

 

I'm out of this thread...... defend your boy all you want.

He da man. 

4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Anyone besides me ever been in a sports fight? I've been in 1 football and 2 basketball (one of which I was the team coach). .. and I never started one of them.

Remember how rationally you reacted: at their start? restrained while an opponent was trying to engage you?

 

Rationality is the first victim in any altercation.

 

Only been in one "sports fight" myself - a slow pitch softball fight if you can believe that shit.   (competitive city champ league stuff - not a beer league).

Anyway, while it was not one of my proudest moments, I didn't grab an aluminum bat and swing it at someone under the guise that "it was a fight, and the other dude should've known better than to start it with me".  I knew what the line was, even in that out of control moment............. most do. 

This is now how Myles will be remembered...... too bad.  

3 minutes ago, Duckpins said:

Big problem for the future for him is that expressed no remorse in his interview.  Honestly seeing that guys eyes, and listening to his take on what happened, I'd trade him as soon as possible and avoid him in a bar or restaurant.  He is like a pit bull, friendly but 20% have a gene that makes them deadly.

 

I haven't seen it yet. I thought for sure he would be nothing but remorseful. 

Anyone that's ever played the game - and was well coached, they know Myles crossed way over the fucking line regardless of what proceeded it. 

Those that didn't play, or were daddy ball coached probably don't get it. 

2 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

No it’s not all his fault but the genesis of the situation was caused by I am not taking a knee not giving up the game. And like I said he could’ve had his knee blown out in a normal kind of situation

^ That I agree with and would've just ran the ball had I have been calling plays. However Myles is a big boy and made his own conscious decision, no matter what lead up to that point.

10 minutes ago, Buzzsaw619 said:

Tapped?   Wow.   And asking for it?   A retaliatory punch...sure.  Smacking him with his own helmet.   Never.    I’m not sure excusing Garret’s conduct is the right angle to take on this as a fan base.  

Apparently some of us are like a parent who when their kid gets arrested for DUI, they blame Budweiser.......

I'm not one of them. 

Just now, The Gipper said:

It was a questionable coaching decision pure and simple if you can’t see that you’re blind deaf and dumb

Yep, it's alllllllllll Mike's fault.

1 minute ago, PoeticG said:

LOL okay, so you're gonna sit there and act like Rudolph didn't attack Garrett?

If you condone Myles then you aren't the type of person I thought you were.... now I know. 

2 minutes ago, PoeticG said:

Mason is a coward. He tried to rip Myles helmet off and kicked him in the balls. Then doesn't have the balls to say he tried to rip his helmet off. He's a bitch. My kids aren't bitches.  

 

Glad you never coached my ex D1 playing daughter...... At least you're honest about it I guess. 

13 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

Pretty much the perfect microcosm of today's society...... "Yea, I'm the one who screwed up, but it never woulda happened if............" 

12 minutes ago, PoeticG said:

Mason Rudolph found out what happens when you pull the lion's tail... 

He tried to rip Myles helmet off first. Myles was just trying to put his helmet back on him... 

Curious, if it were one of the kids that you coach who did the same thing..... no, too easy.

If one of your own kids did this, would it still be as cute?  Serious question. Just trying to see what makes you tick. 

Just turned the channel (LA Fox TV) and the consensus of Vince Ferragamo, Jackie Slater and Shawne Merriman is that Myles will be suspended the rest of the year at a minimum, and indefinitely at a maximum. All 3 ex players were extremely harsh and talked about how long it's going to take Myles to change the perception of himself that he himself created in 8 seconds. 

We'll all know pretty quick as the NFL will act swiftly on this.................... on a brighter note, we beat the fuckin' Stoolers.  

Right now on LA TV they are showing live press conferences of Freddie, Tomlin and Mason.....LA TV!! 

They don't even talk about their own Rams or Chargers...... never a live press conference. 

Just now, Tour2ma said:

Two games... plus anger counseling for Myles.

One game for Pouncey....

Multiple fines for both teams.

 

Not going to make apologies for Myles, but Rudolph was clearly trying to rip off Myles' helmet when they were on the ground. That set Myles off.

Stars don't get long suspensions for first offenses.

Bet ya a shinny buffalo nickle that Myles is gone for the rest of the season.

The NFL is going to come off the ropes and right down on Myles' head...... see what I did there? 

Freddie: "We've never beat Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the same year since 1999, and now we have to talk about this?" 

Freddie: "I've never seen that in my life". 

1 minute ago, bjh2130 said:

That's absolutely bullshit. So it's also Tomlin's fault Rudolph and pouncey acted the way they did? 

Funny talib when he was in new England got in a fight with mangold where he was ejected.  Bill must not have had good discipline that year. 

awwww shux. As usual, we'll agree to disagree. 

I hope he's gone all year. 

Jackie Slater on LA TV is absolutely killing Freddie and his lack of control of the team.