luke8878 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Now Hunt and JOK are out. Not really sure what I want to say here but seems to me injuries are up ever since the collective bargaining agreement a while back when you could only practice so much during a day and contact practice was cut back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, luke8878 said: Now Hunt and JOK are out. Not really sure what I want to say here but seems to me injuries are up ever since the collective bargaining agreement a while back when you could only practice so much during a day and contact practice was cut back. Its that same with pitchers in Baseball.. They don't get the reps they used to... They rarely finish complete games anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, nickers said: Its that same with pitchers in Baseball.. They don't get the reps they used to... They rarely finish complete games anymore pitchers like koufax seaver etc would not much like what is going on with baseball today..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, browns52 said: pitchers like koufax seaver etc would not much like what is going on with baseball today..... Koufax blew out his arm and retired at 30, because of the workload he pulled off in the 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 athletic training staff and strength and conditioning staff should be fired 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 It was strange watching the Browns and Chargers where we were physically more dominant (at least I thought) yet our guys were dropping like flies and they had a guard out and a WR limp off and go back on the field a few plays later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, browns52 said: pitchers like koufax seaver etc would not much like what is going on with baseball today..... You know it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Injuries mount as more players get hurt... Bigger faster stronger. make contact more violent... anyone who thinks more contact in practice would help knows nothing. Staff to blame? Produce the evidence.... soft tissue vs. Joint.... non-contact vs. contct... etc.... or just bay at the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 6:11 PM, Dutch Oven said: Koufax blew out his arm and retired at 30, because of the workload he pulled off in the 60s. hard to believe since he had drysdale...sutton and someone else that i can't remember...was it johnny podres....i think he was a relief pitcher...help me out.....sutton did not blow his arm out and either did drysdale.....drysdale played 14 seasons with the dodgers...that i know...thats a long time....for that era....koufax pitched 12 seasons which is also a long time for that era...they did not have the technology back then or upgraded rehab either....keep that in mind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nero Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 6:15 AM, Tour2ma said: Injuries mount as more players get hurt... Bigger faster stronger. make contact more violent... anyone who thinks more contact in practice would help knows nothing. Staff to blame? Produce the evidence.... soft tissue vs. Joint.... non-contact vs. contct... etc.... or just bay at the moon. I remember that last year I think it was the Titans who stomped the Bills after having almost no practise due to COVID protocol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 6:11 PM, Dutch Oven said: Koufax blew out his arm and retired at 30, because of the workload he pulled off in the 60s. True, but as a whole, pitchers aren't pitching the innings anymore. If a boxer only fights in 7 round bouts, he is probably going to falter if all of a sudden he is going 15 rounds. If pitching 80 pitches has been you limit, you are probably going to have a hard time throwing 115 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 This year feels a lot like the 49ers season last year. It's really hard not to point the finger somewhere, that's for sure. Really is a damn shame how much it's impacting what God willing can still be a really good football team. Each week gets a lot harder, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 if you look around the NFL - injuries are all over. The Bills sure are lucky with fewer injuries. and they still lost their last game. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/ NFL Injuries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: if you look around the NFL - injuries are all over. The Bills sure are lucky with fewer injuries. and they still lost their last game. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/ NFL Injuries American tackle football, it's a tough game. And these guys are bigger, much faster and stronger and definitely have more high impact collisions 💥 especially at the professional level. It's no wonder the average lifespan in the NFL is about 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Not for nothin' but players wear hardly any pads these days. And the ones they DO where are itty-bitty compared to yesteryears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Orion said: Not for nothin' but players wear hardly any pads these days. And the ones they DO where are itty-bitty compared to yesteryears. Oh, really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 The Browns aren't the only team with significant & numerous injuries. As often stated, football is a violent game The league may need to look at more significant roster expansion, game day actives, & raising of salary cap to accommodate same. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Canton Mike said: The Browns aren't the only team with significant & numerous injuries. As often stated, football is a violent game The league may need to look at more significant roster expansion, game day actives, & raising of salary cap to accommodate same. Mike A violent game that has had its season extended by another game, with an 18th game a matter of when, not if. Not smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Oh, really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns fan 1977 Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 Injuries or not we look worse now than we have in the last 12 years, We were favored to win but lost by like 30, we missed tackles dropped passes missed passes ran wrong routs and as if they needed it had the refs making sure they lost as well. No our finest game BUT we are .500 and the season is far from over however we lose tomorrow that will be 3 in a row and teams don't lose 3 in a row and still make playoffs. Our coach needs to understand 3 points is better than 0 points, Every time we went on 4th down and not the FG it was a SACK, Meanwhile our D gave up a 3rd and goal from the 21 . IDC who is hurt no Pro team should ever let that shit happen, Next man up? They are still a pro s they need to act like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 hours ago, mjp28 said: American tackle football, it's a tough game. And these guys are bigger, much faster and stronger and definitely have more high impact collisions 💥 especially at the professional level. It's no wonder the average lifespan in the NFL is about 3 years. I don't know that injury drops it all that much no matter what the average might be, but no doubt it has to drop it some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Orion said: I think that kind of proves his point. Players have gotten away from large sets like Mack wore. Chubb would look good in those. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 9:43 PM, browns52 said: was it johnny podres.. My head is whispering Don Newcomb.... I'll check.123 starts in the top 3 does not leave much. 154 game seasons back then IIRC. Podres got 22, but at lrast his name appears.... so points to you No Newcomb... but Osteen, not an unfamiliar name, with 287 IP .in 40 starts looks to have been the #4. have e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 Sutterer on Derrick Henry's noncontact season-ending foot injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 DPD on this -- Can't disagree. It's not just the raw players, it's the conditioning also.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 As in "the defenders are as or better conditioned than the Offense these days? In JB's day, nearly all the best athletes were on Offense. Now even the biggest baddest RBs can't survive... Draft/sign a variety pack and when initial deal is done, move on... NEVER FALL IN LOVE ! Check out the HOFers... https://www.profootballhof.com/heroes-of-the-game/positions/ RB/QB (24) Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 John Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Benny Friedman (QB) 1927-1934 Harold Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Earl Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Alphonse Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 John McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Clarence Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Purusing the list I linked to the 1st non-skill position inductee I see is an OT... Albert Glen Edwards (T) 1932-1940 Defender? Doug Atkins (DE) 1953-1969 QED... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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