tiamat63 Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 That is a HUGE get. One of the better DB's in the NFL. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Well the Browns should be solid at the safety position now. Lets find an edge rusher! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: That is a HUGE get. One of the better DB's in the NFL. Is he? More data please. If so super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Only 25 years old and ranked 3rd of all NFL safeties last year with PFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Is he? More data please. If so super. My assessment before I walk out of the door to the gym - under rated. And by a long way too. Kid can ball and the LA secondary was no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Three years, $33.75m with $24m guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I saw somewhere that he played 100% of the defensive snaps last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vagitron Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LondonBrown said: Only 25 years old and ranked 3rd of all NFL safeties last year with PFF PFF is seriously awful but Johnson is very legit. People need to separate from PFF. It’s like the hive mind determined a long time ago it was legit and people just go with it. Several of the worst takes I’ve seen all of last year came from some dipshit at PFF. either way big signing for the browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Vagitron said: PFF is seriously awful but Johnson is very legit. People need to separate from PFF. It’s like the hive mind determined a long time ago it was legit and people just go with it. Several of the worst takes I’ve seen all of last year came from some dipshit at PFF. I know what you’re saying but fact remains that NFL front offices use their data. I guess it’s the conclusions you draw that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, LondonBrown said: I know what you’re saying but fact remains that NFL front offices use their data. I guess it’s the conclusions you draw that matter If they do I bet they don’t use it much. Their metrics are dicked almost across the board. If front offices are using pff they are fucking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Is he? More data please. If so super. PFF has him graded out as the #3 Safety in the league last year...great acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 All good reading on this guy. Now for Carl Lawson please, if we can afford him now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vagitron said: If they do I bet they don’t use it much. Their metrics are dicked almost across the board. If front offices are using pff they are fucking up. If it were a Steelers signing Vag would be all over how good of a signing it was because of the PFF rating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 While I wait until he has actually signed the contract, I will say as a SoCal guy who has seen every Rams game, he will be an immediate impact player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: PFF has him graded out as the #3 Safety in the league last year...great acquisition. Who does he replace in our lineup? More SS or FS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Who does he replace in our lineup? More SS or FS? From what I read he’s the Strong with Delpit hopefully the Free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Who does he replace in our lineup? More SS or FS? Both. Think a younger version of Malcolm Jenkins. The dude really does a bit of it all - he can run, cover, hit. A very well rounded DB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 And we ran a 4-2-5 more than 50% of the time last season.. so I'd call him just a "Starting DB" right now. Note that this also does in a way address LB.. Taki is one starter and we only "need" one other who may be Phillips. Wouldn't hurt to resign Goodson of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Who does he replace in our lineup? More SS or FS? From what I can tell, Joe Wood is looking at using a 3 safety “dime defense”. https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/03/15/cleveland-browns-john-johnson/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Here is our depth chart, before the events of the last day or so: LCB 21 Ward, Denzel 18/1 28 Johnson, Kevin U/Buf 36 Stewart Jr., MJ W/TB 25 Allen, Brian P/Cin 38 Green, AJ CF20 SS 33 Harrison, Ronnie T/Jax 42 Joseph, Karl U/LV 29 Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4 41 Meander, Montrel CF18 FS 23 SENDEJO, ANDREW U/Min 22 Delpit, Grant 20/2 35 Moffatt, Jovante CF20 48 Benton, Elijah CF20 RCB 26 Williams, Greedy 19/2 39 Mitchell, Terrance U/KC 34 Jackson, Robert SF18 20 Thomas, Tavierre W/Arz Depth Charts do not list the situation if a 4-2-5 is run. Can we assume that Delpit would supplant Sendejo....and that Johnson would be sort of in the middle between SS and FS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 JJ, Harrison and Delpit will be your safeties. Big nickel or otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I believe we will get our edge in free agency, sign/retain 2-3 more, & have a real shot at going BPA in the draft. That is what I hope for. Can anyone recall the Browns drafting for BPA since the Paul Brown days? I can't. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Canton Mike said: I believe we will get our edge in free agency, sign/retain 2-3 more, & have a real shot at going BPA in the draft. That is what I hope for. Can anyone recall the Browns drafting for BPA since the Paul Brown days? I can't. Mike hope ur right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Jackson, Robert SF18 I thought we cut him a while back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Both. Agree... we should have our versatile pairing now. JJ played both Safeties for LAR during his 4-years there. That said I gotta think a fully recovered Delpit gets the lion's share of any single-high duty due to his length and speed advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 this is what happens when a good front office can recognize it's defenses worse starter.. Sayonara Sendejo! JJ played over 1000 snaps with a combined 105 tackles... Good Start, Andrew Berry ! Jake Trotter @Jake_Trotter · 4h Browns safeties allowed 12 passing TDs last year when they were the nearest defender in coverage, most in the NFL. John Johnson's 61 targets as the nearest defender in coverage was 3rd-most this season among safeties. And he allowed only 1 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Be still my heart... Safety John Johnson III turned down ‘significantly more money’ from another team to sign with the Browns, reps say - cleveland.com Quote His agents said Johnson really wanted to play for the Browns and can’t wait to get started. He loves the team that Browns GM Andrew Berry has assembled, and felt it was the perfect fit. One is an accident... Two is a coincidence... That's one... here's to a trend! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, The Gipper said: Here is our depth chart, before the events of the last day or so: LCB 21 Ward, Denzel 18/1 28 Johnson, Kevin U/Buf 36 Stewart Jr., MJ W/TB 25 Allen, Brian P/Cin 38 Green, AJ CF20 SS 33 Harrison, Ronnie T/Jax 42 Joseph, Karl U/LV 29 Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4 41 Meander, Montrel CF18 FS 23 SENDEJO, ANDREW U/Min 22 Delpit, Grant 20/2 35 Moffatt, Jovante CF20 48 Benton, Elijah CF20 RCB 26 Williams, Greedy 19/2 39 Mitchell, Terrance U/KC 34 Jackson, Robert SF18 20 Thomas, Tavierre W/Arz Depth Charts do not list the situation if a 4-2-5 is run. Can we assume that Delpit would supplant Sendejo....and that Johnson would be sort of in the middle between SS and FS? As Gumby said Sendejo is going to get sent packing- he was pretty terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 13 hours ago, The Gipper said: If it were a Steelers signing Vag would be all over how good of a signing it was because of the PFF rating he said it was a big signing for the browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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