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Things may be bad for Marty Schottenheimer.   He has been placed in hospice care.   That usually means you are on your way out.   Alzheimer's:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/03/marty-schottenheimer-listed-in-stable-condition-at-hospice-facility/

Former NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in 2014, was moved to a hospice facility near his home in Charlotte, North Carolina, his family announced in a statement.

Schottenheimer is in stable condition following complications with his disease.

“As a family we are surrounding him with love,” Schottenheimer’s wife, Pat, said in a statement, “and are soaking up the prayers and support from all those he impacted through his incredible life. In the way he taught us all, we are putting one foot in front of the other . . . one play at a time.”

The Schottenheimer family requested privacy.

Schottenheiemer, 77, last coached in the NFL in 2006 with the Chargers.

He spent 21 years as a head coach, coaching the Browns, Chiefs, Washington and the Chargers. Schottenheimer went 200-126-1 in the regular season 5-13 in the postseason.

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Marty is one of only  7 coaches in Pro football history to have 200 or more wins.     IMO.....he would have been a lock for HOF if only he had gotten to a Super Bowl or two:

Rank Coach Wins
1 ^ Don Shula 328
2 ^ George Halas 318
3 * Bill Belichick 280
4 ^ Tom Landry 250
5 ^ Curly Lambeau 226
6 * Andy Reid 221
7 Marty Schottenheimer 200

 

Let's put it this way:  Jimmy Johnson only won 80 games as an NFL coach.   And Marty had a much better overall win pct than Johnson:   .596 vs. .567. Yet JJ is in the HOF  and Marty isn't...just because he has those 2 Super Bowl wins. 

By the way....the HC with THE best  win pct. who is not in HOF:   Blanton Collier  .672 win pct.   which is 7th all time.    And he had  79 career wins, just one less than JJ,  plus he did win a championship. 

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A good coach and a better guy.  I wish him well.

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Sad news. I lost my Dad the day after Christmas, 2019 due to complications from Alzheimer's. 

Marty definitely made his mark here, just couldn't beat Elway. Those Browns teams were fun to watch, and real disciplined. 

 

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Terrible sad news, 

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7 years of beating Alzheimer from the age of 70? That's another WIN nobody can take back Coach Shot'z... 🙏 Prayers, our friend ..  

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Great moments.

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21 hours ago, Bob806 said:

Sad news. I lost my Dad the day after Christmas, 2019 due to complications from Alzheimer's. 

Marty definitely made his mark here, just couldn't beat Elway. Those Browns teams were fun to watch, and real disciplined. 

 

Lost my Mom to it 10 years ago next month. Went from a spry still hiking Rocky Mountain trials woman in her early 80's to death at 87 with no ability to remember anything she was told within 5 minutes of the conversation. It's a killer, not just a memory taker.

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22 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Things may be bad for Marty Schottenheimer.   He has been placed in hospice care.   That usually means you are on your way out.   Alzheimer's:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/03/marty-schottenheimer-listed-in-stable-condition-at-hospice-facility/

Former NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in 2014, was moved to a hospice facility near his home in Charlotte, North Carolina, his family announced in a statement.

Schottenheimer is in stable condition following complications with his disease.

“As a family we are surrounding him with love,” Schottenheimer’s wife, Pat, said in a statement, “and are soaking up the prayers and support from all those he impacted through his incredible life. In the way he taught us all, we are putting one foot in front of the other . . . one play at a time.”

The Schottenheimer family requested privacy.

Schottenheiemer, 77, last coached in the NFL in 2006 with the Chargers.

He spent 21 years as a head coach, coaching the Browns, Chiefs, Washington and the Chargers. Schottenheimer went 200-126-1 in the regular season 5-13 in the postseason.

no doubt.....once in a hospice, its just a matter of time.....sad news.....always liked marty......

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Just now, TexasAg1969 said:

Lost my Mom to it 10 years ago next month. Went from a spry still hiking Rocky Mountain trials woman in her early 80's to death at 87 with no ability to remember anything she was told within 5 minutes of the conversation. It's a killer, not just a memory taker.

hopefully they find a cure in the future....big pharma is at least making some progress on it.....knew some folks that died from it also.....terrible disease....

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There will always be a gleam Coach Schottenheimer, and I thank you for some great Browns memories. 

I hope your, and your family's suffering ends soon. 

Fuck Alzheimer's. 

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21 hours ago, Bob806 said:

Sad news. I lost my Dad the day after Christmas, 2019 due to complications from Alzheimer's. 

Marty definitely made his mark here, just couldn't beat Elway. Those Browns teams were fun to watch, and real disciplined. 

 

that was a great era with marty and bernie.....and the rest of the browns....

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22 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Marty is one of only  7 coaches in Pro football history to have 200 or more wins.     IMO.....he would have been a lock for HOF if only he had gotten to a Super Bowl or two:

Rank Coach Wins
1 ^ Don Shula 328
2 ^ George Halas 318
3 * Bill Belichick 280
4 ^ Tom Landry 250
5 ^ Curly Lambeau 226
6 * Andy Reid 221
7 Marty Schottenheimer 200

 

Let's put it this way:  Jimmy Johnson only won 80 games as an NFL coach.   And Marty had a much better overall win pct than Johnson:   .596 vs. .567. Yet JJ is in the HOF  and Marty isn't...just because he has those 2 Super Bowl wins. 

By the way....the HC with THE best  win pct. who is not in HOF:   Blanton Collier  .672 win pct.   which is 7th all time.    And he had  79 career wins, just one less than JJ,  plus he did win a championship. 

there is no doubt he would have with a sb appearance......who knows....maybe with some luck, he gets in anyway.....long shot but who knows...

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Quite sad.

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Lost my Mom to it 10 years ago next month. Went from a spry still hiking Rocky Mountain trials woman in her early 80's to death at 87 with no ability to remember anything she was told within 5 minutes of the conversation. It's a killer, not just a memory taker.

It took my Mom as well...

She said for over a decade that she was "losing it", but was self-sufficient up to her last 4-years when I moved her from her condo in Parma, OH to live with me in East Texas where she stayed for almost all the 4.

At the end she was in Memory Care assisted living and thought I was my Dad... who'd passed two decades earlier.

Terrible disease... especially during the stage when the sufferer still has those periods of lucidity those around the afflicted relish, but are a source of pain to the afflicted as they realize they are truly losing it.

 

 

Thanks for the memories, Marty... even as they fade from you...

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love ya coach

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Sorry to hear that.  I wish Marty and his family the best in tough times.

 

At the risk of being inappropriate, Marty showed signs many years ago when he forgot about all else except for the linebacker position, bringing us Mike Junkin and Cliff Charleton.

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15 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Lost my Mom to it 10 years ago next month. Went from a spry still hiking Rocky Mountain trials woman in her early 80's to death at 87 with no ability to remember anything she was told within 5 minutes of the conversation. It's a killer, not just a memory taker.

Yep. My dad was so bad he basically forgot how to eat & swallow. Inhaled some scrambled eggs at an assisted living place, got aspiration pneumonia, and was gone in a few days. 

Just an awful disease.

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24 minutes ago, Bob806 said:

Yep. My dad was so bad he basically forgot how to eat & swallow. Inhaled some scrambled eggs at an assisted living place, got aspiration pneumonia, and was gone in a few days. 

Just an awful disease.

Yes it is. I've been tested thoroughly by a diagnostic specialist since both her younger brother and sister also died of it. Fortunately it's not in my cards.

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1 hour ago, Bob806 said:

Yep. My dad was so bad he basically forgot how to eat & swallow. Inhaled some scrambled eggs at an assisted living place, got aspiration pneumonia, and was gone in a few days. 

Just an awful disease.

This is the part I think some folks don't realize is what actually kills people who have this disease, most of the time.. Your brain literally deteriorates to the point where your body doesn't remember how to survive. Watching my grandfather go from dementia to Alzheimer's was such a heartbreaking period of my life.  The worst, to me, were those moments of lucidity where I saw a man who was aware at that point in time he was literally losing his mind. Talk about something I don't wish on my worst enemy. I hope Marty is able to be at peace.

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10 minutes ago, jrb12711 said:

The worst, to me, were those moments of lucidity where I saw a man who was aware at that point in time he was literally losing his mind. Talk about something I don't wish on my worst enemy. I hope Marty is able to be at peace.

My mother kept asking me if she was going crazy or losing her mind. I just kept giving her the same answer since she asked it often near the end, "No, you are just losing your memory Mom." We all felt blessed that she could remember who we were all the way to the end. And could smile in recognition with our correct names when any of us 5 kids walked into the room.

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4 hours ago, ballpeen said:

Sorry to hear that.  I wish Marty and his family the best in tough times.

 

At the risk of being inappropriate, Marty showed signs many years ago when he forgot about all else except for the linebacker position, bringing us Mike Junkin and Cliff Charleton.

And, to be fair to Marty,  I don't know that he was the one making those picks.  Ernie Accorsi was still our GM at that point, and I am pretty sure he had final say. I am also sure that Marty had his input.   As good and respected as Ernie was....he obviously had his share of misses. (In his tenure here he also pick Eric Metcalf, Webster Slaughter, and  Eric Turner).

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My wife's best friend's mother was in the early stages of Alzheimer's when she died of heart failure, a year ago Monday.

It sounds cold, but I can't help to think it was for the best. Seeing someone you love get to the point where they don't know their own family has to be fucking brutal. 

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To a good coach and a great guy RIP Coach Marty.

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I said it in the other thread, I just hope Marty went as peacefully as possible. The last days of my grandfather in hospice with sever Alzheimer's were unfortunately not graceful, and extremely tough. 

I truly hope we find a breakthrough on this awful disease. RIP.

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RIP Coach, and thank you. 

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RIP Marty, some great memories.  

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Damn it.  But knew it was coming when they put him in hospice.

Fyi,  I had a client once.  He had to put his wife in a nursing home for her Alzheimer's,  but  she lived for like another  15-20 years even though she was totally non-cognitiant .  He was devoted to her....but he actually died first.  But then some die right away, like Marty here.  I wasn't sure which would be the case with him.  Now we know. 

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