The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, ballpeen said: It makes sense to me. I like the Falcons, so I follow them a bit. My thinking is why wait until you absolutely need a QB, or any position, when you are in a position to grab that position? Sure, if Ryan was 27, you don't, but he isn't. I don't think many are now complaining about the Packers selecting Rodgers when they did, or SF trading for Steve Young. Just because a team selects a player doesn't mean they are ready to move on from the incumbent. To me it's called planning ahead. Yes, but often the incumbent QB gets all butthurt when the team tries to do some future planning. See: Packers/Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Watson makes his request/demand for a trade official: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-officially-requests-trade-from-texans-hours-after-team-names-head-coach/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 So. QB Scorecard. Teams that could have a change at QB.......later to be filled in with who they did get: 1. Colts 2. Saints 3. Texans 4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams 5. Cowboys 6. Bears 7. Jaguars.....belief is that Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 8. Patriots 9. Broncos 10. Washington 11. Eagles 12. Panthers 13. Dolphins 14. Falcons 15. 49ers 16. Steelers 17. Packers 18. Rams? Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff. Over half the teams in the league. Note...this does not include Tampa whom we all believe will have stability with a 44 year old QB at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 So, look at it another way: which teams do NOT have an issue at QB? By division: AFCE: Only Buffalo with Josh Allen AFCS: Only Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill AFCN: Browns/Mayfield; Bengals/Burrow; Ravens/Jackson AFCW: Chiefs/Mahomes; Chargers/Herbert; RAiders/Carr?? NFCE: only Giants/Jones NFCS: Only Tampa Bay/Brady NFCN: Only Vikings/Cousins NFCW: Seattle/Wilson; Arizona/Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Gipper said: So. QB Scorecard. Teams that could have a change at QB.......later to be filled in with who they did get: 1. Colts 2. Saints 3. Texans 4. Lions 5. Cowboys 6. Bears 7. Jaguars.....belief is that Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 8. Patriots 9. Broncos 10. Washington 11. Eagles 12. Panthers 13. Dolphins 14. Falcons 15. 49ers 16. Steelers 17. Packers 18. Rams? Over half the teams in the league. Note...this does not include Tampa whom we all believe will have stability with a 44 year old QB at the helm. I can tell you with 100 percent certainty who will be quarterbacking the Packers and Cowboys. Z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Zombo said: I can tell you with 100 percent certainty who will be quarterbacking the Packers and Cowboys. Z I don't know that I can say 100%....but certainly the Packers would be foolish to trade Rodgers. Its just that he himself is the one making noises. Also, consider this on Prescott and the Cowboys. He WILL be a free agent as of the beginning of the FA season....unless the Cowboys either reach an agreement with him....or they Franchise Tag him at the apparent cost of 37 million dollars for the 2021 season. I think it is that price tag for him that has been the stumbling block so far in getting him signed. Dallas may not want to do that. They have seemed reluctant to do so so far. And looking on both sides of that coin: with so many QB openings, Dak may decide he would want to test that market; and Dallas may want to explore alternatives. So, I do think you are on more solid ground with GB than with Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, The Gipper said: Watson makes his request/demand for a trade official: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-officially-requests-trade-from-texans-hours-after-team-names-head-coach/ OK, not Browns related. But will someone please explain to me- WHY when all the (expert) talking heads are discussing possible landing spots for Watson- nary a peep about the Patriots making a move for him? I totally get the Colts would love to have him with Rivers retiring, but I can't see Houston being willing to trade him within the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, The Gipper said: So, look at it another way: which teams do NOT have an issue at QB? By division: AFCE: Only Buffalo with Josh Allen AFCS: Only Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill AFCN: Browns/Mayfield; Bengals/Burrow; Ravens/Jackson AFCW: Chiefs/Mahomes; Chargers/Herbert; Raiders/Carr?? NFCE: only Giants/Jones NFCS: Only Tampa Bay/Brady NFCN: Only Vikings/Cousins NFCW: Seattle/Wilson; Arizona/Murray I'll agree with Zombo on this 100%. Barring a great disturbance in the Force, Rodgers and Prescott will be the starting QBs on their respective teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, hoorta said: OK, not Browns related. But will someone please explain to me- WHY when all the (expert) talking heads are discussing possible landing spots for Watson- nary a peep about the Patriots making a move for him? I totally get the Colts would love to have him with Rivers retiring, but I can't see Houston being willing to trade him within the division. More talk has been of Stafford going to the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, hoorta said: I'll agree with Zombo on this 100%. Barring a great disturbance in the Force, Rodgers and Prescott will be the starting QBs on their respective teams. So, if Zombo is your Yoda, I guess that makes you Obi Wan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 hours ago, ballpeen said: It makes sense to me. I like the Falcons, so I follow them a bit. My thinking is why wait until you absolutely need a QB, or any position, when you are in a position to grab that position? Sure, if Ryan was 27, you don't, but he isn't. I don't think many are now complaining about the Packers selecting Rodgers when they did, or SF trading for Steve Young. Just because a team selects a player doesn't mean they are ready to move on from the incumbent. To me it's called planning ahead. Except Rogers wasn't selected 4, he dropped a lot and the value was too great to pass up, they got lucky. I guess it depends on how much you think Ryan has left, it you think he has 4 or more years left I pass on a QB and improve the team. The Falcons played better the 2nd half of the season so they may had a quick rebound in order. If they could have one fall to the them in round 2 that would be a different calculus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 hours ago, The Gipper said: I don't know that I can say 100%....but certainly the Packers would be foolish to trade Rodgers. Its just that he himself is the one making noises. Also, consider this on Prescott and the Cowboys. He WILL be a free agent as of the beginning of the FA season....unless the Cowboys either reach an agreement with him....or they Franchise Tag him at the apparent cost of 37 million dollars for the 2021 season. I think it is that price tag for him that has been the stumbling block so far in getting him signed. Dallas may not want to do that. They have seemed reluctant to do so so far. And looking on both sides of that coin: with so many QB openings, Dak may decide he would want to test that market; and Dallas may want to explore alternatives. So, I do think you are on more solid ground with GB than with Dallas. Rodgers is coming back. Cowboys aren't letting Zak go. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 21 hours ago, The Gipper said: More talk has been of Stafford going to the Colts. That makes a ton of sense. Depends on how much the Lions would want. More dum-dum emanating from Houston. What it Watson decides to give them the finger and hold out? https://www.nfl.com/news/texans-gm-nick-caserio-zero-interest-in-trading-deshaun-watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 1:48 AM, Nero said: About Stafford, he is one of my favorite QBs. I love his attitude and he is tough as nails. He hasn't missed many games and has played through many injuries. I think he has never been the main problem for the low performance by the Lion's and whoever gets him will have a reliable QB. I don't know about the contract, but I wouldn't like seeing him go if I were a Lions fan. I might be mistaken, though. Agree for the most part, but I have never thought of Stafford as "that guy". The QB that can close the deal. Always thought he was in that Fool's Gold category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 4:47 AM, ballpeen said: My thinking is why wait until you absolutely need a QB, or any position, when you are in a position to grab that position? Sure, if Ryan was 27, you don't, but he isn't. I don't think many are now complaining about the Packers selecting Rodgers when they did, or SF trading for Steve Young. Just because a team selects a player doesn't mean they are ready to move on from the incumbent. To me it's called planning ahead. Have I ever mentioned that you always have to be looking for your next QB? Seems like I might have, but just not sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 5:04 PM, hoorta said: I'll agree with Zombo on this 100%. Barring a great disturbance in the Force, Rodgers and Prescott will be the starting QBs on their respective teams. Agree on Rodgers... not so sure about Dak. Besides some bad feelings DAL has significant cap constraints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Lots of trade speculation about Goff: https://sports.yahoo.com/report-rams-talked-multiple-teams-094506162.html And possibly on Wentz: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-rumors-insider-says-knows-230941294.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Redskins.....errrr WTFs may still have their QB for next year on their roster in Alex Smith....but they still have to make contingency plans to find his replacement, in light of the Haskell failure: https://sports.yahoo.com/alex-smith-sounds-wants-play-003000956.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 It seems possible that if Jets new coach Robert Saleh has anything to say about it, the Jets would be sticking with Darnold: https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-saleh-sam-darnold-unbelievable-195454790.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 In apparently the first move: Stafford to Rams, Goff to Detroit. See scorecard above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Washington supposedly in the market for a QB trade: As the trade market for prospective quarterbacks starts to heat up this offseason, it’s becoming clear that the Washington Football Team is doing everything they can to be involved. According to a report from ESPN’s Josina Anderson, Washington is willing to deal more than just a 1st-rounder for a veteran quarterback, assuming it is the right deal. That could mean, Deshaun Watson,.........., or Matt Ryan, or Derek Carr, potentially. A lot of players are on the market and potentially looking for new teams, and we can’t rule out that Washington might not be a good landing spot for any of them. We’ve gone over what it might take to land some top players like Watson or Stafford (now off the marke) in the past, and it’s becoming clear that Ron Rivera and his guys are planning to be in the mix. This is the first time I have heard that Derek Carr could be the subject of a possible trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think the Stafford-Goff deal spun the carousel off its axis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I think the Stafford-Goff deal spun the carousel off its axis... Nope, still spinning. At least 15 more riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 11:58 AM, The Gipper said: Watson makes his request/demand for a trade official: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-officially-requests-trade-from-texans-hours-after-team-names-head-coach/ It kind of made me sick to see some Browns fans want Watson on our team. First of all, the guy has TWO reconstructive surgeries on his knees. He holds onto the ball forever. I don't want that. At all. My quarterback is on our team. I adored him the second he said he was the man who could fix the Browns, and I stood up for him ALL year. I remember some members of the forum asking me why I was so steadfast in my support of Baker, and if you remember, early on our QB play was a tad iffy. It's incredible to see how he grew and you can just tell people love playing with him. That second Bengals game drove it all home. Man, Baker is so freaking good. We've got to pay a BUNCH of people, and unfortunately we can't keep them all. But you know what? Next year everyone will be back, and we can worry about the money later. It's going to be very fun, and we're going to be a BITCH to stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Watson isn't close to worth any trade because the gap over Baker is marginal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 6:50 PM, The Gipper said: So, if Zombo is your Yoda, I guess that makes you Obi Wan. "Obi Wan? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a longtime." Just call me Obi-wine Ken-wood-obi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 15 hours ago, hoorta said: Obi-wine Ken-wood-obi. I'm going to guess this is not a nod to an old audio name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: I'm going to guess this is not a nod to an old audio name... Nah, hoorta's gettin' so old he actually meant Kenil-worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I'm going to guess this is not a nod to an old audio name... Actually, maybe an old amusement park near Pittsburgh. https://www.kennywood.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Bears and Colts in bidding war over Wentz? Perhaps: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-rumors-bears-colts-carson-194441723.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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