SdBacker80 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 I think Jaycee Horn should be higher. Newsome as well. I have a feeling the Browns like both. And I also have feeling they are gone by 26. I get the feeling the Browns want an elite corner this year. Rousseau is an intriguing prospect. I’ve liked him since the start of the draft process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 19 hours ago, gumby73 said: We can throw this red 🚩up next to their names if anybody can help with a medical issue link...(most we won't get reads on unless a agent/player leaks it) Explains why he has fallen on some boards. All up to individual team Med Staffs to clear or not... Doubt we will gain any insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: Rousseau is an intriguing prospect. I’ve liked him since the start of the draft process. Thoughts on his DE counterpart at Miami, Jaelan Phillips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Explains why he has fallen on some boards. All up to individual team Med Staffs to clear or not... Doubt we will gain any insight. falling Yep.. visits can't happen unless this was changed? https://steelersnow.com/nfl-releases-further-details-of-altered-draft-process/ Farley & 149 others will have one last medical check.. https://www.nfl.com/news/around-150-draft-prospects-to-undergo-in-person-medical-evaluations-in-indianapo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Thoughts on his DE counterpart at Miami, Jaelan Phillips? Medical concerns perhaps... Concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 18 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: I think Jaycee Horn should be higher. Newsome as well. I have a feeling the Browns like both. I did slide Horn just above Moehrig..I had them as a pick'em tie..Horn blew up his proday & boards are now moving him out of our range if we stay at #26..A Corner value maybe greater than a Safety at this point ? Finished Jamin Davis tape, got Newsome on deck 👀 (see both as 25 to 30 draftee values... within browns reach at #26) And I also have feeling they are gone by 26. I get the feeling the Browns want an elite corner this year. I tossed out 12-13 players off the board at the get go.. Another dozen would have to fall off my board before the Browns hit the clock at pick #26..So yes, my top 12... maybe gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Boards are in real flux ATM... but the scenario is the same. Namely only 25 players can be selected before we are OTC including... 5 QBs... Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Lance and Jones. RB? Could be up to 2 in Harris and Etienne, but I'm not counting on either. 3 to 5 WRs...Chase, Waddle, Smith with a couple more possibles in R. Moore and Bateman. 1 TE... Pitts 5 or 6 OTs... Cosmi, Sewell, Darrisaw, Mayfield, Slater, Jenkins and maybe even Vera-Tucker with a couple moving inside as a Pro. That's 14 to 19 of the 25 right there at positions of low to no, Round-One interest to us. Defensive talent will be pushed down the board and into our arms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Boards are in real flux ATM... but the scenario is the same. Namely only 25 players can be selected before we are OTC including... 5 QBs... Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Lance and Jones. RB? Could be up to 2 in Harris and Etienne, but I'm not counting on either. 3 to 5 WRs...Chase, Waddle, Smith with a couple more possibles in R. Moore and Bateman. 1 TE... Pitts 5 or 6 OTs... Cosmi, Sewell, Darrisaw, Mayfield, Slater, Jenkins and maybe even Vera-Tucker with a couple moving inside as a Pro. That's 14 to 19 of the 25 right there at positions of low to no, Round-One interest to us. Defensive talent will be pushed down the board and into our arms. A good prospect at DE and CB are both going to be there so will be interesting to see which way they go, BPA according to their board on just those two positions makes sense......unless a WR they really like is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 1:04 PM, LondonBrown said: A good prospect at DE and CB are both going to be there so will be interesting to see which way they go, BPA according to their board on just those two positions makes sense......unless a WR they really like is there Q: If the Browns trade up in the draft, do you think it will be for a defensive end or a cornerback? Any chance the team stays at 26 and takes a linebacker? I’m always going for the twofer. — @LeonardMullin10 A: Cornerback … and I think trading up for one of the top ones is a distinct possibility. I believe strongly the first pick will be a cornerback or a defensive end, as you mentioned, placing the probability at 80-90 percent. I picked cornerback above defensive end for a trade up for a couple of reasons. I believe the talent at corner drops off at some point in the first round and the Browns won’t want to get stuck in the wrong tier, and defensive end has more options around No. 26. I also see cornerback being a more pressing need in the draft given the uncertainty surrounding Greedy Williams’ return from a shoulder injury and the likelihood the Browns will add a veteran defensive end at some point. I’m feeling generous today, so for the double dip: Yes. In my view, linebacker and receiver are the two other possibilities at No. 26. I don’t think the Browns need a linebacker and I believe they value the position the least on defense, but I wouldn’t rule it out if they’ve fallen in love with a playmaker they believe could elevate the second level of the defense. Scott Petrak On 3/27/2021 at 1:45 PM, LondonBrown said: One trade mock Current Pick: Round 1 Pick 21 Team: Browns (received from IND) Pick traded from Indianapolis Colts to Cleveland Browns. Details: IND receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 26 (26) (CLE), Round 3 Pick 25 (89) (CLE), Round 6 Pick 26 (209) (CLE) CLE receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 21 (21) (IND) Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 21 (IND): Kwity Paye, DE/OLB, Michigan (A) Round 2 Pick 27: Asante Samuel Jr, CB, Florida State (A) Round 3 Pick 27: Alim McNeill, DT, North Carolina State (A+) Round 4 Pick 5: Baron Browning, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A+) Round 4 Pick 27: Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi (A+) Round 5 Pick 25: Ben Cleveland, OG, Georgia (A+) Round 7 Pick 29: Jamien Sherwood, FS/SS, Auburn (A+) Where there's smoke? There's Fire ! 🔥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 11:11 PM, gumby73 said: 22 days left until draft night in Cleveland.. most have re-scrambled their Big Boards https://www.pff.com/draft/big-board?season=2021 UpDated Caleb Farley 🚩, Virginia Tech * chance gone @#26/mocks Kwity Paye, Michigan Micah Parsons, Penn State Jaycee Horn, South Carolina Gregory Rousseau, Miami Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame Jaelan Phillips, Miami Zaven Collins, Tulsa Patrick Surtain II, Alabama Trevon Moehrig, TCU Jamin Davis, Kentucky Greg Newsome II, Northwestern _________________________________________# 26.. Browns on the Clock..we'll need this>>14 to 19 of the 25, at positions of low to no, Round-One interest to us. Christian Barmore, Alabama Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU Azeez Olujari, Georgia Rashod Bateman, Minnesota Kadarius Toney, Florida Levi Onwuzurike, Washington Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest Nick Bolton, Missouri Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State Joe Tryon, Washington Elijah Moore, Old Miss Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky Joseph Ossai, Texas Elijah Molten, Washington Rondale Moore, Purdue Future Player edit possible adds--- Daniel Jeremiah's 3.0 is not seeing much left for the Browns at pick #26.... https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2021-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-49ers-go-all-in-on-mac-jones Don't Panic ! GM's make everybody's mock drafts disappear...🚮 (including mine!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: Daniel Jeremiah's 3.0 is not seeing much left for the Browns at pick #26.... https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2021-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-49ers-go-all-in-on-mac-jones Don't Panic ! GM's make everybody's mock drafts disappear...🚮 (including mine!) I'd be very tempted to take Joe Tryon there as Edge to compliment MG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 I think I’m set. Major Trade up give me Pitts. Think Julio Jones type deal we made 10 years ago. Slight Trade up give me Jaycee Horn. I think he’s going to be stud. Stay put: Greg Rousseau or Jamin Davis. The forum has swayed me on Jamin. He looks fast and very instinctive (two qualities we lack at LB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 You know what they say - Happy Tia, happy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 Someone actually says that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Someone actually says that? My GF did.... like, once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 22 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: I think I’m set. Major Trade up give me Pitts. Think Julio Jones type deal we made 10 years ago. Slight Trade up give me Jaycee Horn. I think he’s going to be stud. Stay put: Greg Rousseau or Jamin Davis. The forum has swayed me on Jamin. He looks fast and very instinctive (two qualities we lack at LB). I took my 🏈 and went home 🤓 last night.. I played every known mock football game known to the internet last night... No* Team would trade down to pick #26 .. Horn/Paye/Phillips/R-seau/Farley all start coming off boards around Dallas pick #10.. by pick #26, I opted out of many, trying to trade up from pick #8 thru 24.. and ended up looking at guys like.... Asante Samuel/Oweh/Olujari ... at pick 26..I took Boogie Basham 👍 This may take a trading team needing a TE like Njoku? I'm looking at you 👀 Dallas/Eagles, Jets & Giants ! ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 hours ago, gumby73 said: I took my 🏈 and went home 🤓 last night.. I played every known mock football game known to the internet last night... No* Team would trade down to pick #26 .. Horn/Paye/Phillips/R-seau/Farley all start coming off boards around Dallas pick #10.. by pick #26, I opted out of many, trying to trade up from pick #8 thru 24.. and ended up looking at guys like.... Asante Samuel/Oweh/Olujari ... at pick 26..I took Boogie Basham 👍 This may take a trading team needing a TE like Njoku? I'm looking at you 👀 Dallas/Eagles, Jets & Giants ! ! I think we will have a defensive guy or two tumble. Too many intriguing QBs, WRs, Tackle prospects this year and loads of teams with those specific needs. But there are teams just ahead of us 17-25 that appear to have defensive needs like ours. If we trade (if we can even trade) maybe we jump right ahead of that pack. I don’t know what Njoku fetches but we are going needs picks and other reinforcements 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 hours ago, gumby73 said: I took my 🏈 and went home 🤓 last night.. I played every known mock football game known to the internet last night... No* Team would trade down to pick #26 .. Horn/Paye/Phillips/R-seau/Farley all start coming off boards around Dallas pick #10.. by pick #26, I opted out of many, trying to trade up from pick #8 thru 24.. and ended up looking at guys like.... Asante Samuel/Oweh/Olujari ... at pick 26..I took Boogie Basham 👍 This may take a trading team needing a TE like Njoku? I'm looking at you 👀 Dallas/Eagles, Jets & Giants ! ! Slight trade down with this mock but I think this covers all of our bases and gives up major Front 7 help. Dline competition at training camp will be fierce. No Safety though. I took two of my sleepers. Davis Mills QB and Jaylen Twyman DT. Took a corner over 6 foot. We bring in a kicker too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 Interesting mock V4.0 from si.com... R1: Ossai (Edge) Texas... gifted athlete, raw, very young... will be 21 at time of draft R2: Trade up for Melifonu (CB) 'Cuse ... trade our 2nd (#59), a 3rd (#91) and a 4th (#132) to move into the 40's... more than enough R3: Wallace (WR) OSU... meh R4: Tuipulotu (DT) USC... sleeper R5: Hall (CB) SDSU... R6: Forrest (S) UC... meh #2 R7: Johnson (LB) TAMU... S/T thumper with decent speed and great motor Except for the mehs I could live with this one. https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/browns-2021-mock-draft-vol-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Tour2ma said: R7: Johnson (LB) TAMU... S/T thumper with decent speed and great motor Except for the mehs I could live with this one Since the beginning of the Sim's game Mocking season.. LB Buddy Johnson of A&M has been Mocked a 7th rounder.. I don't see that 🤓 Buddy Johnson should fall off the board right behind tBucks Justin Hilliard in the 4th or 5th...stay tuned.. Buddy's player grade is a 6.10.. That's the same as Bucks LB Pete Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: Since the beginning of the Sim's game Mocking season.. LB Buddy Johnson of A&M has been Mocked a 7th rounder.. I don't see that 🤓 Buddy Johnson should fall off the board right behind tBucks Justin Hilliard in the 4th or 5th...stay tuned.. Buddy's player grade is a 6.10.. That's the same as Bucks LB Pete Werner agree on Johnson and Hilliard. And If Hilliard stays healthy he’s going to be a steal. Pete Werner will be a third down specialist at the next level- cover backs out of the backfield and those TE flat and curl routes. I’ve seen 2nd and 3rd round on him. I think you need more than that to be drafted in those areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 7:33 PM, Tour2ma said: Interesting mock V4.0 from si.com... R1: Ossai (Edge) Texas... gifted athlete, raw, very young... will be 21 at time of draft Could he be another Danielle Hunter? Very raw but off the charts athletically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 6:24 PM, LondonBrown said: Could he be another Danielle Hunter? Very raw but off the charts athletically Dunno, but Ossai is not projected to be a hand-in-the-dirt, 4-3 Edge... more as a standup, OLB/Edge in a 3-4. I think he'd be our Will unless/until he grew into a DE. But whenever I try to project DEs "growing" I get a Mingo flashback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 I recorded the picks of numerous mock drafts (like 35), and these were their picks.....though these were pretty much pre-Clowney...so who knows how that may change the thinking.: Gregory Rousseau 6 votes Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 3 votes Jaelen Phillips 3 Zaven Collins 3 Jamin Davis 3 Azeez Ojulari 3 Jayson Oweh 2 Kwity Paye 2 Christian Barmore 2 Joe Tryon 1 Rashod Bateman 1 Asante Samuel Jr. 1 Greg Newsome 1 JOseph Ossai 1 Caleb Farley 1 Levi Onwuzurike 1 Most of these are "edge" guys....but with Clowney, perhaps it is more likely that the DT Barmore or the DBs Samuel or Newsome could be the pick, (most mocks had Farley long gone by 26) Fair to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 11:11 PM, gumby73 said: whats real ? ? 🤔 Caleb Farley 🚩, Virginia Tech Jaelan Phillips, Miami Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame ------------------------------------------------above still seems to be likely goners too.. Paye/Parsons/Surtain or JC Horn fall under a trade up Gregory Rousseau, Miami Christian Barmore, Alabama Zaven Collins, Tulsa Rashod Bateman, Minnesota Greg Newsome II, Northwestern Azeez Olujari, Georgia Trevon Moehrig, TCU ------------------------------------------------ with any Luck? some of these lucky 7 🎰 might be left around ? ^^^ Elijah Moore, Old Miss Kadarius Toney, Florida Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU Jamin Davis, Kentucky Rondale Moore, Purdue in no particular order ...... who's out? -- Or-- who'd you like to move up or down the board? feels to me 🤓... moving up to the teens, is the sweet spot, but might come with a higher extreme cost this draft season than most? I'd favor a 2nd or 3rd round slide up.. I'm still in the boat of adding a DE/CB & now DT... but, I can't toss out a coverage LB if JOK or Collins is still there..... and nobody has a clue... if Landry's or OBJ's replacement is taken early in this draft ? 11 days until draft night in Cleveland🎴... do what & whom ya thinking ? ( Andrew Berry sure ain't login in ) Edit-- BTW..give this mock draft sims a try.. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator seems legit & trading is fair game..login is pass-able 26 Round: 1 Jaelan Phillips EDGE | 59 Round: 2 Baron Browning LB | 89 Round: 3 Tommy Togiai DL | 91 Round: 3 Tyler Shelvin DL | 110 Round: 4 Kary Vincent Jr. CB | 132 Round: 4 Demetric Felton 169 Round: 5 Dan Moore Jr. OT | 211 Round: 6 Jonathon Cooper EDGE | 257 Round: 7 Camryn Bynum CB | a pair of DT's in the 3rd, back 2 back, almost got me..... 73 Round: 3 Alim McNeill DL | to the Panthers... while I'm sitting on 2 4ths/5th/6th & 7th... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Thanks, gum... 1st run to get a feel. I'm thinking I filled our DT void... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Meanwhile back at the thread... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2021/4/18/22390954/cleveland-browns-first-round-mock-draft-roundup-4-18-21 Sam Monson at Pro Football Focus: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, ND Dane Brugler at The Athletic (paywall): Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern Mel Kiper Jr. at ESPN (paywall): Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky Charles Davis at NFL.com: Azeez Ojulari, DE, Georgia Josh Edwards at CBS Sports: Joe Tryon, DE, Washington Eric Edholm at Yahoo Sports: Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern Vinnie Iyer at The Sporting News: Azeez Ojulari, LB, Georgia Matt Williamson at Pro Football Network: Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami Trevor Sikkema at The Draft Network: Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami (after trade up to No. 16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 I'll take this 3-round mock draft all day long and twice on Sundays. They're crazy to project Paye to last.. but you take him in a heartbeat. Wish they'd add more DB depth because TE isn't an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said: I'll take this mock draft all day long and twice on Sundays Jamin Davis is so good he was taken at #87 by the Steelers, and then two spots later by the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Jamin Davis is so good he was taken at #87 by the Steelers, and then two spots later by the Browns. Quitty at #26.......................................😂🤣😂🤣.........................long gone!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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