tiamat63 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 @gumby73 something to say? I had a notification from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 12:11 PM, Icecube said: It seems like it. This means they need some vets to step up to provide leadership. It is a must. Yet the front office is not bringing in veteran LBs or OL to serve as back-ups. I just keep scratching my head at this. You know that back-ups will play a more important role this year, and the play of our linebackers so far is based on a hope. Not a good situation to be when we play the Ravens in just a few weeks and you want to contend, as was mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, gumby73 said: It's also... *Worth Mentioning we can take this link with a grain of salt with cut downs & a few possible additions? or just do this 🙈 till than... https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/browns-depth-chart-2020-what-it-looks-like-after-the-first-week-of-training-camp.html after seeing 3 go down in last 5 days?..I'm requesting that Kareem Hunt get's Saturday practice off & let's get to working on? whom's in* between Lemay/D'ern Johnson & D Hilliard? Looks like the risers so far have been Natson, WR/KR, Gustin DE, and M.J. Stewart in the nickle slot. Injuries are giving guys opportunities like Stewart and C Harris. And Harrison Bryant is getting a lot of reps for a rookie, nice to see. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barry said: Yet the front office is not bringing in veteran LBs or OL to serve as back-ups. I just keep scratching my head at this. You know that back-ups will play a more important role this year, and the play of our linebackers so far is based on a hope. Not a good situation to be when we play the Ravens in just a few weeks and you want to contend, as was mentioned. We've got two solid veteran backups in Lamm and Hubbard and the backup Center, Harris seems to be holding his own. Could be the kind of year where we sift through the veteran cuts to find a backup guard, there are always a few decent ones. As for linebacker ... I don't know what the hell is going on, but obviously not a position of priority with the new staff. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zombo said: We've got two solid veteran backups in Lamm and Hubbard and the backup Center, Harris seems to be holding his own. Could be the kind of year where we sift through the veteran cuts to find a backup guard, there are always a few decent ones. As for linebacker ... I don't know what the hell is going on, but obviously not a position of priority with the new staff. Zombo That's true. I should have said OG. Given the attention the OL received by the FO to improve it, I am surprised they haven't brought in better quality guards to look at. But as you mention, it pales to the lack of attention the LB group has received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, gumby73 said: posted a link that Big Rob, Bucks DT Robert Landers is coming in for a tryout today..thought you saw it👀 than deleted my buckeye homerism Nothing wrong with Buckeye hometown..... especially with no Buckeye football this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Zombo said: Looks like the risers so far have been Natson, WR/KR, Gustin DE, and M.J. Stewart in the nickle slot. Injuries are giving guys opportunities like Stewart and C Harris. And Harrison Bryant is getting a lot of reps for a rookie, nice to see. Zombo I guess am really bothered by losing Kevin Johnson anywhere.. He was pushing Greedy more than Ward, imho at Camp.. I've liked him for years since Wake Forest..MJ Steward, I also liked at Carolina..Did a little more looking & comparing with Money Mitch also in the slot...There all 6 foot.. MJ (200lbs) has 12 lbs more on KJ & 8 lbs more on T-mitch..They all ran 40's in 4.53's(that's not great for ankle breaking slot receivers)..MJ has over 3 inches more wingspan than T-Mitch.. 3-cones are huge in slots, due to all the quick's at slot WR.. MJ 6.90//T.Mitch 6.57👀...Steward's ain't bad while carrying that extra 8 lbs. of lumber over money Mitch... They also have spoken highly of this kid CB-Donovan Obumba* if we had any depth to lose? Corner might have been the right spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: if we had any depth to lose? Corner might have been the right spot? Well, hopefully your KJ is not lost. If he's as good as you like him to be then we could really use him. We need somebody to push Greedy & Ward to work hard in the classroom and on the field. Not to mention to be able to come in and play the position if one of 'em get hurt....which they tend to be kinda' fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Orion said: hopefully your KJ is not lost Lacerated liver is a rare injury -- last notable one in the NFL was Bo Scaife 13 years ago. Typical recovery time per this paper is 3 months before full speed with contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 18 hours ago, tiamat63 said: @gumby73 something to say? I had a notification from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Updated 8/24 I have Mack Wilson and Kevin Johnson off the roster now due to injury, but Johnson should come back at some point, not to sure about Wilson. At Linebacker I see Takitaki and Phillips on the field most, competing for time with veterans Goodson and Smith. QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, D. Ratley, T.Taylor, K. Hodge, , J. Moore WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Willis, J. Bradley, D. Montgomery TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, , C. Hubbard, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , M. Dunn C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown RG W. Teller , W. Wright RT J. Conklin, , K. Lamm, B. Aiello DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Thomas, DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, R. Walker DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, R. McCray (C.Weaver) MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB J Phillips, M. Smith, W. Harvey S. Ajayi, M. Meander (M. Wilson) CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis, Slot MJ Stewart, A. Green,(K. Johnson) FS R. Harrison, A.Sendejo, J. Moffat (G. Delpit) SS K. Joseph, S. Redwine, JT Hassell, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (R. Hilliard) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Drop Njoku a spot - possibly two. Gustin over Chad Thomas (a feeling) CB and Slot are interchangable in some cases and you're leaving out other cases as well when we run big nickel. Such as Delpit being the "slot" man. Grant won't be starting over Sendejo, barring last second miracle leap or injury. Possible he takes some snaps away from Karl Joseph though in more 3cb nickel looks. It's even possible you don't see Joseph on the field in dime looks if Grant and Mitchell are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 What’s up with Delpit? Heard he was carted off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, SdBacker80 said: What’s up with Delpit? Heard he was carted off Just read that. Grabbing his Achilles. Welp, scratch him for the whole season now. God. Damnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, tiamat63 said: Just read that. Grabbing his Achilles. Welp, scratch him for the whole season now. God. Damnit. That’s kind of a redshirt injury the following year too. You are back but you aren’t fully back. darn shame if it is The Achilles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, SdBacker80 said: That’s kind of a redshirt injury the following year too. You are back but you aren’t fully back. darn shame if it is The Achilles. Yep, going to take you until mid 2021 to be remotely normal at least. At lot of valuable snaps lost that mental reps simple can't replace. I'll be real, this offense might be fun, if not very fun to watch. Could quite easily duplicate a 7-9 record unless our secondary see's career years and we get surprise contributions from the young guys on the IDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Is this confirmed? Maybe consideration for Earl Thomas is back on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 The revolving door that is our Defensive Depth Chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 17 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Drop Njoku a spot - possibly two. Gustin over Chad Thomas (a feeling) CB and Slot are interchangable in some cases and you're leaving out other cases as well when we run big nickel. Such as Delpit being the "slot" man. Grant won't be starting over Sendejo, barring last second miracle leap or injury. Possible he takes some snaps away from Karl Joseph though in more 3cb nickel looks. It's even possible you don't see Joseph on the field in dime looks if Grant and Mitchell are in. Agreed on Gustin. Not agreed on Njoku. On CB/Slot, yes interchangeable, but when I look at "starters" on D, I am looking at who will be getting most snaps ... 5 top DBs and 2 top LBs The whole Grant/Sendejo point is moot now, and Mitchell may be one of our top 5 DBs, lots of banged up guys back there, so this is a fluid situation. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Andrew Hawkins is co-hosting a reality show -- Dodgeball Thunderdome. Don't trip over your thumbs typing that into Hulu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 My Final Projection My toughest choices were Ratley/Hodge/Taylor final WR, Wright/Brown interior backup OL (I think we'll pick up a veteran there), Thomas/Jackson/ Olumba for final corner spot, and the numbers game at LB and DE , I ended up cutting both Harvey and former 3rd round Chad Thomas. But with the expanded and protected practice squad this does not necessarily mean the end for some of these Browns. I know Joseph and Harrison are both strong safeties, but I see them on the field more than the top free safety, Sendejo. Good luck today, Brownies! QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, D. Ratley, K. Hodge, T.Taylor, WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Willis, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, , C. Hubbard, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , M. Dunn C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown RG W. Teller , W. Wright RT J. Conklin, , K. Lamm, B. Aiello DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Thomas, DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, R. McCray MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB J Phillips, M. Smith, W. Harvey S. Ajayi, M. Meander (M. Wilson) CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, Slot MJ Stewart, A. Green,(K. Johnson) FS R. Harrison, A.Sendejo, J. Moffat SS K. Joseph, S. Redwine, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (R. Hilliard) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Also other teams' cut-downs may be decent stopgap options this season -- Broncos' Jeff Davis was their ILB starter the last few seasons, above 65 PFF. Others' cuts at LB can have good tread left -- Demario Davis was a pro bowler last season in NO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Also other teams' cut-downs may be decent stopgap options this season -- Broncos' Jeff Davis was their ILB starter the last few seasons, above 65 PFF. Others' cuts at LB can have good tread left -- Demario Davis was a pro bowler last season in NO. How/why did we let him go? Demario Davis that is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, The Gipper said: How/why did we let him go? Demario Davis that is. Or the Jets for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, The Gipper said: How/why did we let him go? Demario Davis that is. Davis drafted by NYJ, Browns signed him as FA and played one season then traded back to NYJ in a 1:1 for Calvin Pryor. Pryor got in a fight with Ricardo Louis in training camp, was released, and neither have played a down since. Davis was signed the next offseason by NO. Ricardo Louis did collect 500k last season on the Dolphins IR but was released on 9/1/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Unsympathetic said: Davis drafted by NYJ, Browns signed him as FA and played one season then traded back to NYJ in a 1:1 for Calvin Pryor. Pryor got in a fight with Ricardo Louis in training camp, was released, and neither have played a down since. Davis was signed the next offseason by NO. Ricardo Louis did collect 500k last season on the Dolphins IR but was released on 9/1/20. And who was the GM that made that beauty of a deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 8:03 AM, Zombo said: My Final Projection My toughest choices were Ratley/Hodge/Taylor final WR, Wright/Brown interior backup OL (I think we'll pick up a veteran there), Thomas/Jackson/ Olumba for final corner spot, and the numbers game at LB and DE , I ended up cutting both Harvey and former 3rd round Chad Thomas. But with the expanded and protected practice squad this does not necessarily mean the end for some of these Browns. I know Joseph and Harrison are both strong safeties, but I see them on the field more than the top free safety, Sendejo. Good luck today, Brownies! QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, D. Ratley, K. Hodge, T.Taylor, WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Willis, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, , C. Hubbard, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , M. Dunn C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown RG W. Teller , W. Wright RT J. Conklin, , K. Lamm, B. Aiello DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Thomas, DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, R. McCray MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB J Phillips, M. Smith, W. Harvey S. Ajayi, M. Meander (M. Wilson) CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, Slot MJ Stewart, A. Green,(K. Johnson) FS R. Harrison, A.Sendejo, J. Moffat SS K. Joseph, S. Redwine, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (R. Hilliard) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) The ones I missed: Out: RB D. Hilliard In: TE S. Carlson Out: WR D. Ratley In: WR K. Hodge Out: G W. Wright In: C/G E. Brown Out: CB A.J Green In: Hmmm, I must have had 54 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Depth Chart as it stands today: QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum FB/H-B A. Janovich RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Johnson WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, K. Hodge WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson LT J. Wills, C. Hubbard LG J. Bitonio C J.Tretter , N. Harris RG W. Teller , E. Brown RT J. Conklin, , K. Lamm DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis OLB J Phillips, M. Smith, (M. Wilson) CB D. Ward , T. Thomas CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell Slot MJ Stewart, (K. Johnson) FS R. Harrison, A.Sendejo, SS K. Joseph, S. Redwine, K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) One of those tight ends is going somewhere... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Good Job Z-man! Maybe, I could have helped ya out on K. Hodge? He's dropped nothing i saw on Browns Camp Daily👀. he has better football speed finding openings and may still be ahead of Higgins? All the trade rumors of Njoku I've read, lead to replacing Colts TE Tre Burton if IR'd..but the Colts brass says Burton will only miss 2 games... I still see a players bubble that may go something like this? Possible IR's? M.Wilson//K.Johnson//MJ Steward//Greedy?// T Alex Taylor waived injured maybe a late rookie IR stash? Bubble? Jojo Natson//Carlson or P.Brown if Nojoke stays?//Evan Brown//Eli Ankou or slim but, Jordan Elliott may get to PS?/////*Tre Davis//*Tav.Thomas//maybe even *Redwine? (*a dorsey thing?) I still kinda scratch my head on all the back-end guys coming back from injuries & than still cutting Olumba... but, they got to know much more than us 💡... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I don’t know much about JoJo Natson but apparently he is a burner and also has been receiving 1st team reps on offense👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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