Orion Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Icecube said: Starters are still there, ...actually I was hoping one of the backups was going to beat out our RG starter, Teller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 7:09 AM, Zombo said: This is a disturbing trend. Z It is very disturbing; but Rookie (backup) C Nick Harris should be able to back-up both Guards as well. Back in 2000, the undrafted Shaun O'Hara started off as a backup Center and Guard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 The position group that scares me the most and our opponents the least is Linebacker. It feels like we're asking 3 Dog Night to come play us some LBer in life after marijuana and music. Having said that, if we use 3 LBs instead of 2 - it should make their responsibilities a little more reasonable. Mack Wilson went from very good defensive schemes at Bama to a Defensive scheme that thought 2 LBers is a good idea in the NFL. That couldn't have been a fun NFL learning curve for the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Flugel said: The position group that scares me the most and our opponents the least is Linebacker. It feels like we're asking 3 Dog Night to come play us some LBer in life after marijuana and music. Having said that, if we use 3 LBs instead of 2 - it should make their responsibilities a little more reasonable. Mack Wilson went from very good defensive schemes at Bama to a Defensive scheme that thought 2 LBers is a good idea in the NFL. That couldn't have been a fun NFL learning curve for the guy. Oh brother! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Flugel said: Linebacker. It feels like we're asking 3 Dog Night to come play us some LBer in life after marijuana and music. Mom to Gregg Williams is holding on line one 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 10:45 AM, Flugel said: The position group that scares me the most and our opponents the least is Linebacker. It feels like we're asking 3 Dog Night to come play us some LBer in life after marijuana and music. Having said that, if we use 3 LBs instead of 2 - it should make their responsibilities a little more reasonable. Mack Wilson went from very good defensive schemes at Bama to a Defensive scheme that thought 2 LBers is a good idea in the NFL. That couldn't have been a fun NFL learning curve for the guy. Majority offensive snaps in the NFL are 11 personnel. Therefore a majority of defensive snaps in the NFL are nickel sets. So.... Yeah. It's a pretty good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 My contribution - watching newly signed MJ Stewart. I'm not seeing an outside corner. I'm actually not seeing a corner at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 8/11/20 Updated, every player on the current roster listed ... the depth and roster projections are all IMO QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, D. Ratley, K. Hodge, T.Taylor, J Natson, J. Moore WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Montgomery, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, K. Lamm, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , J. Dunn C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown, C.Dunn RG W. Teller , W. Wright, RT J. Conklin, C. Hubbard, DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas, R. McCray DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, P. Gustin, G.Obinna MLB M. Wilson, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB S. Takitaki, J Phillips, W. Harvey S. Ajayi CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis, Slot K. Johnson, A. Green, MJ Stewart, FS G. Delpit, A.Sendejo, S. Redwine, M. Meander SS K. Joseph, JT Hassell, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (D. Johnson) (T.Thomas) (J. Natson) PR (D. Peoples-Jones) (J. Landry) (J. Natson) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 hours ago, tiamat63 said: My contribution - watching newly signed MJ Stewart. I'm not seeing an outside corner. I'm actually not seeing a corner at all. From what I read he has safety skillset. Might not make the team, probably giving him a looksie because he's a former second rounder with playing experience, but I don't know where he fits in. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 am seeing a lot of Big Nickle Safety's on the field & Steward will be in that mix.Lamar week 1..Am beginning to really wonder, what Wood's want's seen👀 on these live streamed Camp practice's? 🤔.. MJ is a scrappy baller on ST's too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Depth chart in the best shape I’ve seen in awhile. Maybe add a Guard? An Experienced DT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 7:58 AM, Zombo said: From what I read he has safety skillset. Might not make the team, probably giving him a looksie because he's a former second rounder with playing experience, but I don't know where he fits in. Zombo It's not so much the skillset I see, but the skillset I don't see. That sudden burst, the smooth lateral change of direction and hip fluidity in all good corners - I just don"t see it here. I haven't even checked out his listed speed, but I would doubt he's a mid 4.4 runner. His build and downhill pursuit scream hash, but just "moving" from CB to S isn't a transition as easy and common as many make it sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 7:57 AM, Zombo said: RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, D. Ratley, K. Hodge, T.Taylor, J Natson, J. Moore WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Montgomery, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, I'll be interested to see how Stef & Berry sort out the skill positions. No track record with them. We know Stef likes his TE's. And he likes to run anywhere along the LOS. I don't really see a good blocking TE in the bunch though. Probably keep four. At RB, LeMay is the little bowling ball of the bunch. Would he have a shot to be the third back? I think Hunt is a better receiving back than Hilliard. I'm guessing we only keep three since they'll probably keep one of the FB's on the roster. We've got a lot of WR's but I don't know how certain Higgins, Ratley or Hodge are of making the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 12:02 PM, SdBacker80 said: Depth chart in the best shape I’ve seen in awhile. Maybe add a Guard? An Experienced DT? On paper, they look talented. Stef has to be the man to bring it all together. Let him do his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 Maybe I grade to harshly? 🤓..On paper... 7-8 players on this offense could start elsewhere & am excluding Baker for now... But good lord look at that Defense! 👀 So I'll ask again..How many could start elsewhere not named Myles Garrett on this Defense?..... Richardson? Ogun? Ward? Joesph? Vernon? Any LB'er? Could they start for the Jets? Giants? Jags? Bengals? And those Teams are not feared by anyone in this league... Btw, Good Friday Morning! And the 10 Padded practices can't come soon enough 🏈.. Good Luck, Joe Woods! 😇 Edit-- Chip Banks..get well champ! 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, gumby73 said: Maybe I grade to harshly? 🤓..On paper... 7-8 players on this offense could start elsewhere & am excluding Baker for now... But good lord look at that Defense! 👀 So I'll ask again..How many could start elsewhere not named Myles Garrett on this Defense?..... Richardson? Ogun? Ward? Joesph? Vernon? Any LB'er? Could they start for the Jets? Giants? Jags? Bengals? And those Teams are not feared by anyone in this league... Btw, Good Friday Morning! And the 10 Padded practices can't come soon enough 🏈.. Good Luck, Joe Woods! 😇 Edit-- Chip Banks..get well champ! 🙏 Start elsewhere? You mean like, anywhere? I would say that they all could start elsewhere, somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 So here's what I saw after cutting up on Browns Daily Camp day 1 👀 1.) Wills has the tree trunk leg view over Conklin.. With Baker under center..LT-Wills LG-Bitonio C-Harris(tretter was out) RG-Teller RT-Conklin//// Two's= With Kenum under center..LT-Hubbard LG-Willie Wright C-Evan Brown RG-Dunn RT-Lamm ///Fair played LG3 with Gilbert under Center. And for what's it's worth? Carlson & P.Brown played TE3's 2) Hooper & Njoku TE1's//Njoku & Harrison Bryant TE2's with Keenum//TE3's P.Brown & Carlson.. Having a good look at Njoku, imho.. WR DPJ, had a nice high point of ball thrown by Keenum with the 2's 3) Sandejo & Joesph ran against the 1's..Delpit & Redwine saw 2's..Mack Wilson & Taki shared reps with both.. 4) Misc? CB Kevin Johnson had a nice press coverage pick. Than got beat deep by Keenum throwing a bomb to Hodge. Tavierre, Hodge, JoJo, DPJ & many other DB's & Lb'ers, may make this squad by ST's?..The extra bonus of position of need? Is what Josh Cribbs will find interesting at cut time Only Day 1..Things can Change & more likely will...Were off today & back at it Sunday for Day 2... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Updated 8/17 after reading some training camp notes and adding new acquisitions. QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, D. Ratley, T.Taylor, K. Hodge, , J. Moore WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Montgomery, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, , C. Hubbard, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , M. Dunn C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown, C.Dunn RG W. Teller , W. Wright RT J. Conklin, , K. Lamm DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas, R. McCray DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, R. Walker DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, P. Gustin, G.Obinna MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB M. Wilson, J Phillips, W. Harvey S. Ajayi, M. Meander CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis, Slot K. Johnson, A. Green, MJ Stewart, FS G. Delpit, A.Sendejo, J. Moffat SS K. Joseph, S. Redwine, JT Hassell, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (R. Hilliard) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Zombo said: Updated 8/17 after reading some training camp notes and adding new acquisitions. QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert, K. Davidson FB/H-B A. Janovich, J. Stanton RB N. Chubb, K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson, B. LeMay WR1 O. Beckham, J. Natson, D. Ratley, T.Taylor, K. Hodge, , J. Moore WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, D. Montgomery, J. Bradley TE A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson, LT J. Wills, K. Lamm, A. Taylor LG J. Bitonio , W. Wright C J.Tretter , N. Harris, E. Brown, C.Dunn RG W. Teller , M. Dunn RT J. Conklin, C. Hubbard, DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas, R. McCray DT Ogunjobi, E. Ankou, DT S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale, DE O. Vernon, A. Clayborn, P. Gustin, G.Obinna MLB S. Takitaki, B.J. Goodson, T.Davis, T. Young OLB M. Wilson, J Phillips, W. Harvey S. Ajayi CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, R. Jackson, D. Olumba CB G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis, Slot K. Johnson, A. Green, MJ Stewart, FS G. Delpit, A.Sendejo, S. Redwine, M. Meander SS K. Joseph, JT Hassell, E. Benton K A. Seibert P J. Gillan LS Hughlett KR (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (T.Thomas) PR (D. Peoples-Jones)(J. Natson) (J. Landry) So, what is this "Slot" position on defense? Is it actually anticipated that the Browns will be going with a 4-2-5 defense as their standard defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: So, what is this "Slot" position on defense? Is it actually anticipated that the Browns will be going with a 4-2-5 defense as their standard defense? It's the nickelback. I don't think we'll have three linebackers on the field more than 10 percent of the time, we didn't last year. Zombo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 I think we keep 3 QBs active in Mayfield, Keenum, and Gilbert. Davidson sticks to the Practice Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 5:57 PM, ballpeen said: I think we keep 3 QBs active in Mayfield, Keenum, and Gilbert. Davidson sticks to the Practice Squad. My take on that is that with the new rules, you can put veterans on the practice squad, and you can protect up to four guys on the practice squad and acitivate them right up to the morning before the game, so I see most teams keep 2 QBs and stashing their third on the protected practice squad list. So Gilbert goes to PS and Davidson goes home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 3:56 PM, Zombo said: It's the nickelback. I don't think we'll have three linebackers on the field more than 10 percent of the time, we didn't last year. Zombo And didn't that brilliant formation have them near dead last in rush D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Icecube said: And didn't that brilliant formation have them near dead last in rush D? Did they mainly run with only 2 LBs last year? I don't know if I recall that. Joe Woods taking over for Steve Wilks. Don't know if he is going to follow the same pattern. With Wilson perhaps out....we don't have more than 2 decent LBs that we can play, do we? Takitaki. Goodson. And who knows about the rookie Phillips. We could end up having 4 of our rookies starting: Wills, Harris (Tretter being hurt), Delpit, Phillips. Does that seem like a lot of rookies for a team that hopes to contend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Did they mainly run with only 2 LBs last year? I don't know if I recall that. Joe Woods taking over for Steve Wilks. Don't know if he is going to follow the same pattern. With Wilson perhaps out....we don't have more than 2 decent LBs that we can play, do we? Takitaki. Goodson. And who knows about the rookie Phillips. We could end up having 4 of our rookies starting: Wills, Harris (Tretter being hurt), Delpit, Phillips. Does that seem like a lot of rookies for a team that hopes to contend? It seems like it. This means they need some vets to step up to provide leadership. It is a must. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Our D-coordinator last year was a 2 LB'er guy. And yes, our run D wasn't great...and got progressively worse. I'm not 100% sure what to make of the 2 LB'er thing. I always felt that they were a liability on pass plays where they had to cover TE's or RB's. (we haven't been able to cover a TE this century) And I'll never forget ballpeen's comment on another board, "Us blitzing is like running 1 or 2 of our players off the field". Still makes me laugh. Now, of course, with Myles, we have a better DL so that when we blitz it IS more difficult for the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Sign Clay Matthews III !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Sign Clay Matthews III !!! Originally I was thinking, No. But after looking at the experience level of the LB'er room... Solomon Ajayi 58 LB 6-0 222 23 R Liberty Davis-Tae- 55 LB 6-1 224 24 3 Chattanooga Goodson-BJ- 93 LB 6-1 242 27 5 Clemson Harvey-Willie- 56 LB 5-11 230 24 2 Iowa State Meander-Montrel- 41 LB 6-2 215 25 1 Grambling State Phillips-Jacob- 50 LB 6-3 229 21 R LSU Takitaki-Sione- 44 LB 6-1 238 25 2 BYU Wilson-Mack- 51 LB 6-1 233 22 2 Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 8:56 AM, Zombo said: My take on that is that with the new rules, you can put veterans on the practice squad, and you can protect up to four guys on the practice squad and acitivate them right up to the morning before the game, so I see most teams keep 2 QBs and stashing their third on the protected practice squad list. So Gilbert goes to PS and Davidson goes home. Could be. I just like 3 qbs on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 It's also... *Worth Mentioning we can take this link with a grain of salt with cut downs & a few possible additions? or just do this 🙈 till than... https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/browns-depth-chart-2020-what-it-looks-like-after-the-first-week-of-training-camp.html after seeing 3 go down in last 5 days?..I'm requesting that Kareem Hunt get's Saturday practice off & let's get to working on? whom's in* between Lemay/D'ern Johnson & D Hilliard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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