2020 Browns Depth Chart

[Zombo]

Time to line them up and see where are, pre-draft:

Here is my current 53. Did we go to 55? doesn't matter, we are about to add a shit ton of players, and then we can figure it out:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B A. Janovich

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Ratley,  T.Taylor

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge, D. Montgomery, J Natson

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , P. Brown, S. Carlson

LT C. Hubbard

LG J. Bitonio 

C J.Tretter 

RG  W. Teller , D. Forbes

RT J. Conklin, K. Lamm 

 

DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi,  A. Billings

DT  S. Richardson, D. Eukale, E. Ankou

DE O. Vernon,  A. Clayborn

MLB M. Wilson, J. Grace

SLB  S. Takitaki, Tae Davis

WLB B.J. Goodson

CB D. Ward , K. Johnson, T. Thomas

CB  G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis

FS A.Sendejo, S. Redwine,

SS  K. Joseph, JT Hassell

 

K A. Seibert

P  J. Gillan

LS Hughlett

KR  J. Natson (T.Thomas)

PR  J. Natson (J. Landry)

 

My Biggest pre-draft needs:

1. Left Tackle. Hubbard just a place-setter, he will be the swing tackle

2. OLB At LEAST one starter needs to be found

3. WR3 ... Don't think our third WR is on the roster.

4. Safety ... Someone could easily come in and win that FS job.

5. DE ... If we don't keep Vernon we need some immediate impact

6. OL depth

7. CB depth

8. DT depth

Zombo

[The Gipper]

Related:

A. We lost  2 TEs:   Harris and Seal-Jones.   Got Hooper back.   Still have  Njoku,  Pharoah,  Carlson......I think we are in good shape here...no draft priority.

B.  ILB:   Lost  Schobert and  Kirksey...and probably Adarious Taylor.   Got back BJ Goodson.  Still have Takitaki, and maybe Mack Wilson some.  Still a major area of need IMO

C. Safeties:  Lost:  Murray/Burris/Randall/and Burnett.   Replaced them so far with Karl Joseph and Sandejo.  Still have Redwine.    Still an area of significant  need IMO

D. Offensive Guard:   Lost  McCray/Kush.   No FA pickups.  Still have starters Bito/Teller and Drew Forbes.  Definite need for depth if not one starter.

E.  Offensive Tackle:   Lost  Robinson.  Picked up Conklin.  Still have Hubbard.  Absolute area of need even with Conklin on board,  probably #1

F.  Quarterback:   No losses....well Drew Stanton if you want to count him.    Picked up Keenum.  Still have Baker/Gilbert.    NO need here. 

G.   Running back .  NO losses.   Still have   Chubb/Hunt (re-signed)/Hilliard/Johnson.  See NO need here.

H. Center.     NO losses.   Picked up Evan Brown for backup.  Still have Tretter.  See NO need here. 

I. Wide Receiver.  Higgins status up in air. May lose.   Picked up JoJo Natson, listed as WR, but to be ST/PR.  We still have   OBJ/Landry and a half dozen other backups.. of undetermined value.   Seems a minor area of need. 

J. Defensive Tackle.  NO losses.   Picked up Andrew Billings for backup.  Have Ogunjobi/Richardson as starters, and Eli Ankou backup plus a few others.   Maybe could use a guy, but a minor priority.

K. Defensive Ends.  Looks like we lose Brian Cox Jr.  Picked up Andrew Clayborn.   Still have Garrett, Olivier, Chad Thomas.   Clayborn over Cox should be a net gain, so it seems like we are good...but it may not hurt to get someone. 

L. OLBs. Did not lose anyone here,  but our OLBs now are listed as Willie Harvey and  Mack Wilson.  Backups are no names like Jermaine Grace/Trevon Young.   Definite area of need IMO.

M.  Special Teams.....no major losses.   We picked up a guy named Tavierre Thomas who is listed as top KR...and Natson is supposed to be  PR (though he is not listed there on depth chart). We have  Kicker/Punter/Holder/Long Snapper well in hand.   Punt and Kick returner?  There is Natson/Thomas...and there are guys on the depth chart  (Landry listed as our #1 PR).     We could certainly use someone...be it a guy already on the roster/draft/FA?

So:  Draft Priorities:

1.  LT

2. OLB

3. MLB

4. Safety

5.  WR3

6. Backup OL

7. Backup DL

8. Punt/Kick Returner

 

[Orion]

I'm not convinced that our edge rusher position is solidified.  Vernon still being on the team is a bit of a surprise.

[Tour2ma]

5 hours ago, Zombo said:

MLB M. Wilson, J. Grace

SLB  S. Takitaki, Tae Davis

WLB B.J. Goodson

Jesus...

Knew it was bad, but it looks even worse in writing...

[Zombo]

14 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Jesus...

Knew it was bad, but it looks even worse in writing...

Yep. When I was putting it together, I was like wait ... where's the starters?

Zombo

[The Gipper]

45 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Jesus...

Knew it was bad, but it looks even worse in writing...

Now you know why I took  3 LBs  for the Browns in the BB mock draft. 

[Dutch Oven]

5 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Now you know why I took  3 LBs  for the Browns in the BB mock draft. 

I especially liked your Harrison pick. 

[The Gipper]

1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:

I especially liked your Harrison pick. 

What would be your thoughts.....or anyone's here,  on grabbing him at #41 even?   A reach?    Rating services had him about  mid 3rd round.  

Should the Browns be reaching on a position of such need.

Others that were rated around at the  #41 spot   were  Antoine Winfield Jr.  (who I did take)....Ashtyn  of Cal,  both safeties.    Go for one of those instead of "reaching"  for the LB? 

 

[Dutch Oven]

Just now, The Gipper said:

What would be your thoughts.....or anyone's here,  on grabbing him at #41 even?   A reach?    Rating services had him about  mid 3rd round.  

Should the Browns be reaching on a position of such need.

Others that were rated around at the  #41 spot   were  Antoine Winfield Jr.  (who I did take)....Ashtyn  of Cal,  both safeties.    Go for one of those instead of "reaching"  for the LB? 

 

I think safety would be a better pick there, I like Harrison in the 3rd. 

[CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS]

LT, OLB, DE, ILB, RG, WR, CB

Needs list. If we don’t have Higgins and Vernon. Might draft a safety, who knows. 

[Zombo]

Well, the Browns knock the first need out of the park, and the Depth Chart is real easy to update.

So now we are looking at LBs, WRs, Safeties and pass rushers ... Oh My!

 

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B A. Janovich

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Ratley,  T.Taylor

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge, D. Montgomery, J Natson

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , P. Brown, S. Carlson

LT J. Willis, C. Hubbard

LG J. Bitonio 

C J.Tretter 

RG  W. Teller , D. Forbes

RT J. Conklin, K. Lamm 

 

DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi,  A. Billings

DT  S. Richardson, D. Eukale, E. Ankou

DE O. Vernon,  A. Clayborn

MLB M. Wilson, J. Grace

SLB  B.J. Goodson, Tae Davis

WLB S. Takitaki

CB D. Ward , K. Johnson, T. Thomas

CB  G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis

FS A.Sendejo, S. Redwine,

SS  K. Joseph, JT Hassell

 

K A. Seibert

P  J. Gillan

LS Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson) (T.Thomas)

PR  (J. Natson) (J. Landry)

 

My Biggest pre-draft needs:

1. Left Tackle. Hubbard just a place-setter, he will be the swing tackle

2. OLB At LEAST one starter needs to be found

3. WR3 ... Don't think our third WR is on the roster.

4. Safety ... Someone could easily come in and win that FS job.

5. DE ... If we don't keep Vernon we need some immediate impact

6. OL depth

7. CB depth

8. DT depth

Zombo

[LBC mike]

Is Higgins still floating out there?  He still tweets as if he is still a brown.

[Zombo]

29 minutes ago, LBC mike said:

Is Higgins still floating out there?  He still tweets as if he is still a brown.

He's an unsigned free agent. Depending on how the draft goes, wont be surprised if the Browns bring him back.

Z

[The Gipper]

Similarly:

So:  Draft Priorities:

1.  LT

2. OLB

3. MLB

4. Safety

5.  WR3

6. Backup OL

7. Backup DL

8. Punt/Kick Returner

There was not a single  Safety taken in round one.  Delpit, McKinney,  Winfield, Ashtyn Davis, Chinn,   all there.   Could be Browns move. 

LBs....top 3 taken:  Murray/Queen/Simmons.      Still on the board:   Baun, Harrison, Brooks,  Davis-Gaither.

Browns have 1 pick in round 2, 2 in round 3. 

[Tour2ma]

6 hours ago, Zombo said:

... the Depth Chart is real easy to update.

I know it doubles as a "nose count" for you, Z, but gotta think Hubbard is primary back up at both OTs... maybe via Conklin switching to LT, if a long term substitution is required.

Whatever puts the best 5 on the LOS on Game Day.

[Zombo]

Well, the Browns continue to go straight at their needs.

Here are my updated projections and needs:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B A. Janovich

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Ratley,  T.Taylor

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge, D. Montgomery, J Natson

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , P. Brown, S. Carlson

LT J. Wills, C. Hubbard

LG J. Bitonio 

C J.Tretter 

RG  W. Teller , D. Forbes

RT J. Conklin, K. Lamm 

 

DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi,  A. Billings, E. Ankou

DT  S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale,

DE O. Vernon,  A. Clayborn

MLB B.J. Goodson, J. Phillips

SLB M. Wilson , Tae Davis

WLB S. Takitaki, J. Grace

CB D. Ward , K. Johnson, T. Thomas

CB  G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis

FS G. Delpit, A.Sendejo, S. Redwine,

SS  K. Joseph, JT Hassell

 

K A. Seibert

P  J. Gillan

LS Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson) (T.Thomas)

PR  (J. Natson) (J. Landry)

 

My Biggest pre-draft needs:

1. Left Tackle. Hubbard just a place-setter, he will be the swing tackle

2. OLB At LEAST one starter needs to be found

3. WR3 ... Don't think our third WR is on the roster.

4. Safety ... Someone could easily come in and win that FS job.

5. DE ... If we don't keep Vernon we need some immediate impact

6. OL depth

7. CB depth

8. DT depth

Updated Needs (all depth at this point)

WR, LB, Edge/DE, OL, CB

 

 

[Zombo]

By the way ... regarding linebackers, you can line them up anyway you want and I wont argue with you. 

They are all inside linebackers in my book, so I don't know what we are doing. I know Wilson played outside that year and TikTok is talking about playing weakside this year, so it's probably Wilson and TikTok on the outside with Phillips challenging Goodson for the middle, we'll get it all straightened out by camp ... if there is a camp.

Z

[Tour2ma]

LBs alignment looks reasonable. I do see Goodson starting, but we shall see. Personally I am still holding out hope for a shot at Troy Dye with our first pick today.

Bigger question in my mind is Delpit...  as in which Safety slot will he best compete. I can see him working in the box more than not.

 

[Unsympathetic]

On 4/22/2020 at 8:34 PM, Dutch Oven said:

I especially liked your Harrison pick. 

Would've, could've.

[Unsympathetic]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

I don't know what we are doing.

Bring on the 5-2!  Or, the Belichick special.. Only Richardson sets up with his hand in the ground.

[Dutch Oven]

1 minute ago, Unsympathetic said:

Would've, could've.

Should've 

[mjp28]

4 hours ago, Zombo said:

 

My Biggest pre-draft needs:

1. Left Tackle. Hubbard just a place-setter, he will be the swing tackle

2. OLB At LEAST one starter needs to be found

3. WR3 ... Don't think our third WR is on the roster.

4. Safety ... Someone could easily come in and win that FS job.

5. DE ... If we don't keep Vernon we need some immediate impact

6. OL depth

7. CB depth

8. DT depth

Updated Needs (all depth at this point)

WR, LB, Edge/DE, OL, CB

 

 

Is a day 3 TE worth a shot?  I do agree on a WR3.

[Zombo]

10 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

Is a day 3 TE worth a shot?  I do agree on a WR3.

I like our tight ends. After the top two, Carlson has potential and Pharoah Brown is a good blocking TE.

Z

[Zombo]

2 hours ago, Zombo said:

I like our tight ends. After the top two, Carlson has potential and Pharoah Brown is a good blocking TE.

Z

I guess the Browns felt differently,  lol.

Z

[The Gipper]

So:  Draft Priorities:

1.  LT.......Wills

2. OLB

3. MLB  Phillips

4. Safety.....Delpit

5.  WR3.....Peeps. 

6. Backup OL.....Nick Harris

7. Backup DL.....Elliot

8. Punt/Kick Returner.....maybe Peeps here as well?   At least he can compete for one of them

Added:

9 Backup TE......Bryant.

So, only OLB seems to not have been addressed. 

[SdBacker80]

LB, 3rd Running Back, WR-  seem to be the hotter position battles to make the roster.  

 

[gumby73]

16 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So:  Draft Priorities:

1.  LT.......Wills

2. OLB

3. MLB  Phillips

4. Safety.....Delpit

5.  WR3.....Peeps. 

6. Backup OL.....Nick Harris

7. Backup DL.....Elliot

8. Punt/Kick Returner.....maybe Peeps here as well?   At least he can compete for one of them

Added:

9 Backup TE......Bryant.

So, only OLB seems to not have been addressed. 

for the  of all Cleveland.. Berry please go sign Clay Matthews son for a few dawg-bones 💪 

[Zombo]

Post-Draft Update.

Matthew Berry when right after our needs and didn't add any fluff or gambles, A+

Here is where we sit for now, not adding undrafted FAs yet, we have a long holding pattern ahead, I fear, but, on paper, we have a team:

Here are my updated projections and needs:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B A. Janovich

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt, D. Hilliard, D. Johnson

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Ratley,  D. Peoples-Jones, T.Taylor

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge,  J Natson, D. Montgomery

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, , H. Bryant , P. Brown, S. Carlson

LT J. Wills, C. Hubbard

LG J. Bitonio 

C J.Tretter , N. Harris

RG  W. Teller , D. Forbes

RT J. Conklin, K. Lamm 

 

DE M. Garrett, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi,  A. Billings, E. Ankou

DT  S. Richardson, J. Elliott, D. Eukale,

DE O. Vernon,  A. Clayborn

MLB B.J. Goodson, J. Phillips

SLB M. Wilson , Tae Davis

WLB S. Takitaki, J. Grace

CB D. Ward , K. Johnson, T. Thomas

CB  G. Williams, T. Mitchell, D. Lewis

FS G. Delpit, A.Sendejo, S. Redwine,

SS  K. Joseph, JT Hassell

 

K A. Seibert

P  J. Gillan

LS Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson) (T.Thomas)

PR  (J. Natson) (J. Landry)

 

My Biggest pre-draft needs:

1. Left Tackle. Hubbard just a place-setter, he will be the swing tackle

2. OLB At LEAST one starter needs to be found

3. WR3 ... Don't think our third WR is on the roster.

4. Safety ... Someone could easily come in and win that FS job.

5. DE ... If we don't keep Vernon we need some immediate impact

6. OL depth

7. CB depth

8. DT depth

 

Weakest roster spots IMO:

LB: Young guys really need to emerge if we are done here

WR3: Someone will need to breakthrough 

Edge/DE: If Vernon stays and returns to form of two years ago, then not as worried.

Someone mentioned Clay Matthews jr. ... Why not?

[Orion]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

Weakest roster spots IMO:

LB: Young guys really need to emerge if we are done here

WR3: Someone will need to breakthrough 

Edge/DE: If Vernon stays and returns to form of two years ago, then not as worried.

Someone mentioned Clay Matthews jr. ... Why not?

I'd probably add RG to that mix.

...and I actually like Johnson over Hilliard.

[Tour2ma]

55 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Someone mentioned Clay Matthews jr. ... Why not?

Yeah, maybe... Dad didn't finish his career with us, so maybe Jr. could. Still has some Will in him...