Deep Thoughts with BrownsFaninPA

[SdBacker80]

4 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

Homeless guy didn't have the scouting department.

 

The same Fiesta bowl where Texas scored 3 points in the entire 1st half?   If anything, that was the first defense to make Colt look human.

Although I was good with him being picked in the 3rd round.  I really feel the injury cost him quite a bit in terms of NFL production.  Despite not being the biggest QB, Colt had a pretty live arm at Texas.   Was never the same in Cleveland.

He had 414 passing yards against a D with guys like Jenkins Laurinaitis Heyward.  Impressive game winning drive too

[Orion]

2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

2 hours ago, Canton Mike said:

Count me as one who thinks the Patriots will NOT suck without Brady.

Make that two... I expect to see a strong D and ground game.

...and I say, They'll be as good as their QB.

[The Gipper]

2 hours ago, SdBacker80 said:

He had 414 passing yards against a D with guys like Jenkins Laurinaitis Heyward.  Impressive game winning drive too

Feint praise:   he actually did better in a Browns uniform than  did Brady Quinn.

 

Passing

 

Johnny

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					15	8	2-6-0	147	258	57.0	1675	7	2.7	7	2.7	78	61	6.5	5.8	11.4	111.7	74.4		22	167	5.39	4.76	7.9			5
2014	22	CLE	qb	2	5	2	0-2-0	18	35	51.4	175	0	0.0	2	5.7	6	32	5.0	2.4	9.7	35.0	42.0	7.3	3	26	3.92	1.55	7.9			1
2015	23	CLE	qb	2	10	6	2-4-0	129	223	57.8	1500	7	3.1	5	2.2	72	61	6.7	6.3	11.6	150.0	79.4	54.1	19	141	5.62	5.26	7.9			4

 

Passing.....Quinn.....Just look at the Cleveland numbers

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					24	20	4-16-0	296	550	53.8	3043	12	2.2	17	3.1	148	59	5.5	4.6	10.3	126.8	64.4		41	236	4.75	3.86	6.9	1	2	2
3 yrs		CLE			14	12	3-9-0	184	353	52.1	1902	10	2.8	9	2.5	99	59	5.4	4.8	10.3	135.9	66.8		20	113	4.80	4.25	5.4	1	2	3
1 yr		KAN			10	8	1-7-0	112	197	56.9	1141	2	1.0	8	4.1	49	57	5.8	4.2	10.2	114.1	60.1		21	123	4.67	3.20	9.6			-1
2007	23	CLE		10	1	0		3	8	37.5	45	0	0.0	0	0.0	3	18	5.6	5.6	15.0	45.0	56.8	67.0	0	0	5.63	5.63	0.0			0
2008	24	CLE		10	3	3	1-2-0	45	89	50.6	518	2	2.2	2	2.2	24	42	5.8	5.3	11.5	172.7	66.6	46.5	1	9	5.66	5.10	1.1	1	1	1
2009	25	CLE	QB	10	10	9	2-7-0	136	256	53.1	1339	8	3.1	7	2.7	72	59	5.2	4.6	9.8	133.9	67.2	42.7	19	104	4.49	3.93	6.9	0	1	2
2012	28	KAN	qb	9	10	8	1-7-0	112	197	56.9	1141	2	1.0	8	4.1	49	57	5.8	4.2	10.2	114.1	60.1	26.0	21	123	4.67	3.20	9.6			-1

1 comeback, 2 game-winning drives - full summary

[Tour2ma]

1 hour ago, The Gipper said:

Feint praise:   he actually did better in a Browns uniform than  did Brady Quinn.

[CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS]

18 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Yea....fucking hell....so do I.  We have a 17 pt. lead on the road vs Shittstown.    Butch goes into motherfucking prevent defense in the middle of the 3rd qtr.....giving those Spermsuckers momentum.  (Foge Fazio...RIP...our DC was livid about that).  Still, if Northcutt hadn't committed  "The Drop"  ....every bit as bad in my mind as The Fumble.....worse actually, because at least with Byner the fumble was caused by a good defensive play....here, it was just an out and out Drop.  If not for The Drop,  we still win that game. 

Go to the 15:30 mark about:

 

 

Man that game was choked, hard. The possession before that Northcutt drop, 3rd and 3, and Holcomb throws a duck 20 yards downfield. Just get the first down and keep the chains moving ...
At the end, that last ditch attempt to get out of bounds and give Phil Dawson a chance to tie bothers me.. we all know he would’ve made it.

[nickers]

It's never good to dwell on failed investments.. Move on...

[Tour2ma]

[tiamat63]

On 4/16/2020 at 9:04 PM, SdBacker80 said:

He had 414 passing yards against a D with guys like Jenkins Laurinaitis Heyward.  Impressive game winning drive too

Christ, I'd hope so.  Pretty sure he threw the ball like 60 times that game.    

Even though I remember Obbanaya (spell check) being a capable back, he never got many touches.     Side note - Colt not winning the Heisman that year was a crime.

[TexasAg1969]

8 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

  Side note - Colt not winning the Heisman that year was a crime.

And yet who ended up with the better NFL career?😁

All I remember about Colt's last college game was wimping out against Bama in the 1st Q of NC game.

[Dutch Oven]

8 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And yet who ended up with the better NFL career?😁

All I remember about Colt's last college game was wimping out against Bama in the 1st Q of NC game.

Didn't he severely separate his throwing shoulder?

[TexasAg1969]

15 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Didn't he severely separate his throwing shoulder?

Didn't turn out so severe after all. More like his daddy told the coach he was not going back in. Didn't want to risk an NFL career over a "maybe" injury.

EDIT: Looked it up. "Pinched nerve" a.k.a. stinger.

[Dutch Oven]

30 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Didn't turn out so severe after all. More like his daddy told the coach he was not going back in. Didn't want to risk an NFL career over a "maybe" injury.

EDIT: Looked it up. "Pinched nerve" a.k.a. stinger.

I thought this was the injury that affected his throwing for years? Or did he get hurt with the Browns and I'm forgetting it? 

(Browns years some times feel like dog years... ten Browns seasons ago seem like 40) 

[TexasAg1969]

4 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

I thought this was the injury that affected his throwing for years? Or did he get hurt with the Browns and I'm forgetting it? 

(Browns years some times feel like dog years... ten Browns seasons ago seem like 40) 

He started the 6th game on for the Browns his rookie season after the 1st & 2nd stringers were injured. They had wanted to develop him more instead of playing him that year.

[tiamat63]

3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And yet who ended up with the better NFL career?😁

All I remember about Colt's last college game was wimping out against Bama in the 1st Q of NC game.

I mean, Colt is still in the league and Bradford isn't.  So.......

 

Edit: as for "whimping out".  I had something similar happen to me once.  Fullback caught me from the side on a lead, got under my pad and basically put his helmet square on my shoulder.   I still don't know how i stayed on my feet and helped in the scrum. But my arm started tingling then burning almost immediately.  About 20 minutes later I could barely make a fist.   Had little grip strength for a few days after that. 

I'm lucky it was a 230lb fullback and not a 310lb Marcel Dareus.

[TexasAg1969]

2 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

I mean, Colt is still in the league and Bradford isn't.  So.......

So Ingram is still in the league with a better career. I was thinking about 2009, Colt's Senior year.

[tiamat63]

18 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

So Ingram is still in the league with a better career. I was thinking about 2009, Colt's Senior year.

Neat.  McCoy should have won it in 08.

Toby Geheart should have in 09. But Bama apparently "needed" their 1st Heisman winner.

[TexasAg1969]

2 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

Neat.  McCoy should have won it in 08.

Toby Geheart should have in 09. But Bama apparently "needed" their 1st Heisman winner.

And he's proved it out over an excellent career.👍

[tiamat63]

11 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And he's proved it out over an excellent career.👍

By this logic 1/2 of your schools Heisman winners should hand back in their statue. Because Manti Te'o is still playing and starting on occasion, while Johnny Hate crime is probably out sucking dick for his fix.

Stick to the poli board, your own line of thinking was too easy to use against you.   Also, just a reminder, A&M is the useful idiot cousin of SEC schools.  You're a convenient program for them and little more.   So please, spare me your pimping of Bama's trophy winners.  They are at least a historically relavent program.

[Flugel]

On 4/16/2020 at 7:55 PM, Canton Mike said:

Count me as one who thinks the Patriots will NOT suck without Brady.

Mike

Didn't NE go 11-5 with Matt Cassel at QB in 2008 when Brady blew out his knee in the opener?  The last time Cleveland won 11 regular season games we had Vinny Testaverde starting at QB.   The thing both of these teams had in common was their Head Coach (Bill Belichick).  

[TexasAg1969]

2 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

By this logic 1/2 of your schools Heisman winners should hand back in their statue. Because Manti Te'o is still playing and starting on occasion, while Johnny Hate crime is probably out sucking dick for his fix.

Stick to the poli board, your own line of thinking was too easy to use against you.   Also, just a reminder, A&M is the useful idiot cousin of SEC schools.  You're a convenient program for them and little more.   So please, spare me your pimping of Bama's trophy winners.  They are at least a historically relavent program.

Where did that come from? I've had no problem saying JFF was a miserable failure, so there really isn't any logic to use against me. I'll stop molesting your cat though.😹

[The Gipper]

2 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

By this logic 1/2 of your schools Heisman winners should hand back in their statue. Because Manti Te'o is still playing and starting on occasion, while Johnny Hate crime is probably out sucking dick for his fix.

Stick to the poli board, your own line of thinking was too easy to use against you.   Also, just a reminder, A&M is the useful idiot cousin of SEC schools.  You're a convenient program for them and little more.   So please, spare me your pimping of Bama's trophy winners.  They are at least a historically relavent program.

Maybe Bama should have had a couple of Heisman winners that were not:   Namath....but John Huarte won it his senior year.  1967...Stabler,  but  Gary Beban won  (but to be honest...Stabler did not have a great senior year....one of the reasons he dropped to 2d rounder)

[The Gipper]

55 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Didn't NE go 11-5 with Matt Cassel at QB in 2008 when Brady blew out his knee in the opener?  The last time Cleveland won 11 regular season games we had Vinny Testaverde starting at QB.   The thing both of these teams had in common was their Head Coach (Bill Belichick).  

But he also went 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe at QB,  And in addition to  the year with 11 wins with Vinny, he also had 2 seasons with losing records with Vinny and others at QB. 

I have always said:   Yes, BB is a good enough HC to have his team's make the occasional playoffs......but without Tom Brady....he has more losing seasons than winning seasons.  In fact, it is:   2 winning seasons  (1 making playoffs)   5 losing seasons  without Brady....  -0- losing seasons with him as his starter.

Just the facts ma'am.

But now we shall see going forward.  

[CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS]

You changed the title and content of this thread that already had replies.
 

Not cool man

[D Bone]

Saw the thread title and thought I'd only get 5 or 6 posts down before seeing this, but 2 pages later and nothing........You all disappoint me.

 

 

 

[The Gipper]

3 minutes ago, D Bone said:

Saw the thread title and thought I'd only get 5 or 6 posts down before seeing this, but 2 pages later and nothing........You all disappoint me.

 

 

 

Related to W.C. Handey? 

[Tour2ma]

1 hour ago, D Bone said:

Saw the thread title and thought I'd only get 5 or 6 posts down before seeing this, but 2 pages later and nothing........You all disappoint me.

The slinkie one I posted was a Jack Handey...

9 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

I thought this was the injury that affected his throwing for years? Or did he get hurt with the Browns and I'm forgetting it?

It was... the shot he took early in the BCS vs. BAMA severely damaged the nerve bundle running to his throwing arm. It took 5 years for it to repair itself.

It wasn't until his first year with WSH that his arm "felt alive". The added zip was visible.

[D Bone]

1 hour ago, Tour2ma said:

The slinkie one I posted was a Jack Handey...

My confidence in humanity has been restored..... and no surprise it was you. 

[tiamat63]

3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Where did that come from? I've had no problem saying JFF was a miserable failure, so there really isn't any logic to use against me. I'll stop molesting your cat though.😹

So.... what the problem was -   I've been doing intermittent fasting to help with my cuts before I clean bulk.   And when baby's blood sugar starts to get low, I am a fucking demon.  Good lord, I have no idea why I was so pissed off this morning.   I'm also taking a cycle of animal stak and I'm sure that shit isn't helping any.

A&M can still kiss my ass, but you ight by me =) 

[TexasAg1969]

3 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

So.... what the problem was -   I've been doing intermittent fasting to help with my cuts before I clean bulk.   And when baby's blood sugar starts to get low, I am a fucking demon.  Good lord, I have no idea why I was so pissed off this morning.   I'm also taking a cycle of animal stak and I'm sure that shit isn't helping any.

A&M can still kiss my ass, but you ight by me 😃

So I have permission to molest the cat then?😻😍

[tiamat63]

1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

So I have permission to molest the cat then?😻😍

Be gentle.