Fauxcahontis Drops Presidential Bid

[htownbrown]

19 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Hey that's one way to put words in someone's mouth I guess

My bad Woody.  I didn't know you felt that way about Democrats.

[Westside Steve]

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/compare/belief-in-god/by/racial-and-ethnic-composition/

So here's a few more Celiac numbers. First of all according to pew so here's a few more sale at numbers. First of all according to pew black people in general are more opposed to homosexuals buy a margin of about 11 %. Compared to white people in general. When strong belief in God is added in that number drops for both races. Black people appear to be substantially more Believers than whites.

I was surprised about the Latinos but...

Of course young people probably believe Less in God and More in the gay agenda. Fair enough. Unfortunately over the course of this primary that particular group has been conspicuously absent from the voting booth. Which is probably the reason for the over performance by Joe Biden and the under-performance of Senator Biden. And I doubt that it's a top priority foremost young people anyway I believe you're likely in the minority of your demographic. 

WSS

 

[Westside Steve]

7 hours ago, htownbrown said:

My bad Woody.  I didn't know you felt that way about Democrats.

You didn't put any words in his mouth he's just bickering. He did mention that there's a group of people who wouldn't vote for any woman. I believe he's completely wrong and that most people would be happy to vote for a conservative woman if they are conservatives and gave him examples. Sarah Palin Michele Bachmann and some others are also examples. Hillary didn't get beaten because she's a woman she got beaten because she's Hillary.

WSS

[Canton Dawg]

Rumor has it that Liz is in negotiations with Biden & Sanders about her future in the race.

Her scripted departure, and which campaign can give her the best incentives for her endorsement.

This only highlights her inauthentic nature.

[hoorta]

22 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Bernie and his Bernie bros are not the smartest bunch. Bernie and his bros are getting the shaft again by the democrat establishment and Bernie is going to take it like a whipped puppy like he did in 2016. Not just the democrat establishment but they have been using their media allies as well for weeks to take down Sanders. When Biden was failing the democrat establishment  parachuted in Bloomberg as a back up plan and when Bloomberg failed they went back to Joe Biden. Then they cleared out all the other candidates to give Biden a clear path. So the lesson Bernie and his bros don't ever learn is that the democrat establishment will let them play in their sandbox but they should never get the idea that they will be allowed to win.

It would be great to see Bernie run as an independent (which he actually is) but he won't. He will take the shaft from the democrat establishment and support Biden and the Bernie bros will soon be the Biden bros. 

Only because  "The Democratic  Establishment " has long known Bernie will/would get smeared by Trump  in November.  Job #1 is nominating someone who  at least has a chance in the fall. I  could see Warren getting  the VP nod. 

 Sanders isn't a Democrat  anyway.  He's a  Socialist  masquerading as  one. Trump would love to see Bernie  run as an Independent.  Guaranteed win splitting the  Democratic  vote. 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

 

 

Donald J. Trump

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I will protect your Social Security and Medicare, just as I have for the past 3 years. Sleepy Joe Biden will destroy both in very short order, and he won’t even know he’s doing it!

[MLD Woody]

13 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/15/pete-buttigieg-black-voters-1322396

and

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/racial-and-ethnic-composition/black/

 

13 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/11/pete-buttigieg-black-americans-democrats

 

5 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/compare/belief-in-god/by/racial-and-ethnic-composition/

So here's a few more Celiac numbers. First of all according to pew so here's a few more sale at numbers. First of all according to pew black people in general are more opposed to homosexuals buy a margin of about 11 %. Compared to white people in general. When strong belief in God is added in that number drops for both races. Black people appear to be substantially more Believers than whites.

I was surprised about the Latinos but...

Of course young people probably believe Less in God and More in the gay agenda. Fair enough. Unfortunately over the course of this primary that particular group has been conspicuously absent from the voting booth. Which is probably the reason for the over performance by Joe Biden and the under-performance of Senator Biden. And I doubt that it's a top priority foremost young people anyway I believe you're likely in the minority of your demographic. 

WSS

 

 

 

Again... Steve.... none of  these are supporting the point you originally tried to make. All of these posts (well, most of them... some add nothing) are just saying a higher percentage of blacks would be against a gay president for being gay than whites would be. Something that I at no point disputed.

Your original point, in your original post, that you said and I quoted... was that backs and hispanics would be more anti gay than evangelicals.

I provided polling data that shows  that to be false. False by a 2 to 1 margin.

You have so far, at no point, provided anything that's supported your original claim. 

 

Now are you going to just keep posting articles and links that don't actually do anything to support your original point and the one I'm contesting or can you just admit you were wrong?

[MLD Woody]

5 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

You didn't put any words in his mouth he's just bickering. He did mention that there's a group of people who wouldn't vote for any woman. I believe he's completely wrong and that most people would be happy to vote for a conservative woman if they are conservatives and gave him examples. Sarah Palin Michele Bachmann and some others are also examples. Hillary didn't get beaten because she's a woman she got beaten because she's Hillary.

WSS

This board has a problem of talking in absolutes, or taking one post and putting words in someone's mouth. At no point did I say Hilary lost only because she's a woman. 

The point I'm making is  that conservatives on here say shit all of the time like "well those people only oted for him because he's black" or 'because she's a woman"... but never, ever acknowledge that the alternative exists. If you think there aren't any voters in this country that didn't vote for Obama because he was black then I can't help you. That isn't something I'll be able to convince you of. 

[calfoxwc]

35 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

This board has a problem of talking in absolutes, or taking one post and putting words in someone's mouth. At no point did I say Hilary lost only because she's a woman. 

The point I'm making is  that conservatives on here say shit all of the time like "well those people only oted for him because he's black" or 'because she's a woman"... but never, ever acknowledge that the alternative exists. If you think there aren't any voters in this country that didn't vote for Obama because he was black then I can't help you. That isn't something I'll be able to convince you of. 

that, coming from the woodpecker who voted for higgardly because she was a woman, albeit a fake, corrupt and mean-spirited frail witch.

that really must have twitched his tailfeathers. thought woodpecker did NOT LIKE POLLS ? LOL

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-most-americans-support-same-sex-unions/

[calfoxwc]

https://reason.com/2012/05/10/gay-marriage-vs-civil-unions/

"The New York Times reports that most Americans "say they support gay marriage or domestic partnerships." The or is a crucial part of that statement. While recent surveys indicate that more Americans support gay marriage than oppose it, the plurality ranges from slightly less than half to slightly more, and the polls' margin of error is typically three or four percentage points in either direction. You get a clear majority only if you include respondents who support "domestic partnerships" (a.k.a. "civil unions") but not "marriage" for same-sex couples. "

" In a February New York Times/CBS News poll, 40 percent of respondents supported "legal marriage" for gay couples, while an additional 23 percent favored "civil unions"; 31 percent said there should be "no legal recognition at all," and 6 percent were undecided. An August 2010 Fox News poll had similar results, with 37 percent saying gay couples "should be allowed to get legally married," 29 percent saying they should be "allowed a legal partnership similar to but not called marriage," 28 percent favoring "no legal recognition," and 6 percent undecided. "

[calfoxwc]

the VAST MAJORITY, as in, nearly all? don't fit your bigotry excuse, bigot bird.

God help us - if there was a forum on gardening - woodpecker would turn it into arguments about his favorite subject - gay everything.

[htownbrown]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

This board has a problem of talking in absolutes, or taking one post and putting words in someone's mouth. At no point did I say Hilary lost only because she's a woman. 

The point I'm making is  that conservatives on here say shit all of the time like "well those people only oted for him because he's black" or 'because she's a woman"... but never, ever acknowledge that the alternative exists. If you think there aren't any voters in this country that didn't vote for Obama because he was black then I can't help you. That isn't something I'll be able to convince you of. 

Or maybe you have a problem with making extremely vague or misleading statements, that "common" people would interpret in a way the English language would compel them to.

[calfoxwc]

21 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

Or maybe you have a problem with making extremely vague or misleading statements, that "common" people would interpret in a way the English language would compel them to.

I know a lot of conservatives. None of them ever say "s***" like that all the time. Woodpecker invents it, as a general truth, so he can ....feeeeeeellllll....that he is finally making a legit point. You'd think a woodpecker wouldn't need a feather in his cap, unless he has molted.

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

that, coming from the woodpecker who voted for higgardly because she was a woman, albeit a fake, corrupt and mean-spirited frail witch.

that really must have twitched his tailfeathers. thought woodpecker did NOT LIKE POLLS ? LOL

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-most-americans-support-same-sex-unions/

 

How stupid are you? No really, how do you get throughout your day?

I've gone on record here multiple times that I didn't vote for Hilary and that I don't like her. 

Are you just too dumb to read? Or are you actively just choosing not to?

Or are you incapable of taking in any new information that disagrees with what you've already settled on as being your reality?

 

I did not vote for Hilary

 

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, htownbrown said:

Or maybe you have a problem with making extremely vague or misleading statements, that "common" people would interpret in a way the English language would compel them to.

Alright man. Whatever you say. You've condescendingly said I'm too condescending. I'm over it. 

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

the VAST MAJORITY, as in, nearly all? don't fit your bigotry excuse, bigot bird.

God help us - if there was a forum on gardening - woodpecker would turn it into arguments about his favorite subject - gay everything.

You literally have no idea what the conversation at hand is right now. You saw something about gay marriage and just started spewing you're normal shit. All of which has nothing to do with what I was replying to Steve about

 

And now we're adequately off topic that Steve can avoid the originally point he made that I provided evidence to claim was false

So now we're where most threads like this end up. Either deliberately to avoid admitting you were wrong or aftee Cal or others do their normal nonsense in a thread

Ugh

 

[htownbrown]

13 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Alright man. Whatever you say. You've condescendingly said I'm too condescending. I'm over it. 

I feel like you just put words in my mouth, but I won't wet myself about it.  Moving on.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

[Westside Steve]

4 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

This board has a problem of talking in absolutes, or taking one post and putting words in someone's mouth. At no point did I say Hilary lost only because she's a woman. 

I never said you did. Go back and read and get back to me

The point I'm making is  that conservatives on here say shit all of the time like "well those people only oted for him because he's black" or 'because she's a woman"... but never, ever acknowledge that the alternative exists. If you think there aren't any voters in this country that didn't vote for Obama because he was black then I can't help you. That isn't something I'll be able to convince you of. 

 and I never said that either. So did you have another point?

WSS

[MLD Woody]

14 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

WSS

I said this board, not necessarily you. 

And the second isn't saying you said that. I'm making a point about people ignoring the opposite scenario existing. 

 

But whatever, we can end that

 

Let's just get back to your first statement regarding Hispanics and blacks compared to evangelicals. Are you willing to admit you were wrong there?

[htownbrown]

Hahaha

The irony is amazing.

[Westside Steve]

11 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

I said this board, not necessarily you. 

And the second isn't saying you said that. I'm making a point about people ignoring the opposite scenario existing. 

 

But whatever, we can end that

 

Let's just get back to your first statement regarding Hispanics and blacks compared to evangelicals. Are you willing to admit you were wrong there?

Well I was surprised at the Latino polling but remember there's an 11 or 12 point gap between black people and white people. And as I showed you more African Americans consider themselves Believers. So even though  young blacks and young whites across-the-board don't care much about homosexuality or at least gay marriage (meaning they might be okay with the marriage but it still creeps them out) they don't vote. So mayor Pete would have more of a disconnect among the black people who do vote.

If young people had turned out Bernie Sanders would have a lot more delegates today. But...

Anyway it's not a hot-button issue for many people I think you are in the minority. It's just not a big selling point to be homosexual. Unfortunately that was mayor Pete's claim to fame.

WSS

[calfoxwc]

19 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

How stupid are you? No really, how do you get throughout your day?

I've gone on record here multiple times that I didn't vote for Hilary and that I don't like her. 

Are you just too dumb to read? Or are you actively just choosing not to?

Or are you incapable of taking in any new information that disagrees with what you've already settled on as being your reality?

I did not vote for Hilary

nobody is stupid on this board,  birdbrain woodpecker. You would vote for higgardly in a NY second over Pres Trump.

You are just all wet in Egypt. Apparently you were not smart enough to not fall in.

 

[MLD Woody]

9 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Well I was surprised at the Latino polling but remember there's an 11 or 12 point gap between black people and white people. And as I showed you more African Americans consider themselves Believers. So even though  young blacks and young whites across-the-board don't care much about homosexuality or at least gay marriage (meaning they might be okay with the marriage but it still creeps them out) they don't vote. So mayor Pete would have more of a disconnect among the black people who do vote.

If young people had turned out Bernie Sanders would have a lot more delegates today. But...

Anyway it's not a hot-button issue for many people I think you are in the minority. It's just not a big selling point to be homosexual. Unfortunately that was mayor Pete's claim to fame.

WSS

Again, that doesn't support your first statement:

"5 they can't put Pete in his VP because the blacks and Hispanics hate queers worse than any Evangelistic Christian"

 

I posted polling data showing this to be false. All you've done is post about things that aren't supporting your original post.

Do you have anything for your statement above or are you going to admit you're wrong?

[MLD Woody]

4 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

nobody is stupid on this board,  birdbrain woodpecker. You would vote for higgardly in a NY second over Pres Trump.

You are just all wet in Egypt. Apparently you were not smart enough to not fall in.

 

Right ... I've told you multiple times I didn't vote for Hilary but, yeah, I'm the one in denial....

Fuck you're stupid

[Westside Steve]

49 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Again, that doesn't support your first statement:

"5 they can't put Pete in his VP because the blacks and Hispanics hate queers worse than any Evangelistic Christian"

 

I posted polling data showing this to be false. All you've done is post about things that aren't supporting your original post.

Do you have anything for your statement above or are you going to admit you're wrong?

Okay blacks in general don't hate them as bad as Evangelical Christians. Yes I was wrong. I know you don't want to talk about the evangelical among the black community. But blacks hate homosexuals more than whites. Correct?

WSS

[MLD Woody]

8 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Okay blacks in general don't hate them as bad as Evangelical Christians. Yes I was wrong. I know you don't want to talk about the evangelical among the black community. But blacks hate homosexuals more than whites. Correct?

WSS

What don't I want to talk about? I wanted you to address your original statement. And after multiple posts and me trying to get you back to that post, it seems you finally have. 

Sure. Blacks are marginally more anti gay than whites. But not nearly as much as evangelicals. Which was the point of my response

[calfoxwc]

15 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Right ... I've told you multiple times I didn't vote for Hilary but, yeah, I'm the one in denial....

Fuck you're stupid

I didn't say you did. I said you would now. frickin birdbrain woodpecker.

egad, you're a moron. and all WET IN EGYPT.

[Westside Steve]

7 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

What don't I want to talk about? I wanted you to address your original statement. And after multiple posts and me trying to get you back to that post, it seems you finally have. 

Sure. Blacks are marginally more anti gay than whites. But not nearly as much as evangelicals. Which was the point of my response

Just saying if there are more Christian blacks than Christian whites. Marginally? (Maybe but that's what cost Hillary the election.) And they are the ones that vote not the young Negroes. And again I was mistaken as to the numbers.

WSS

 

[MLD Woody]

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

And again I was mistaken as to the numbers.

WSS

 

A realization that others on this board need to have