hoorta Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I'll start it- since it's started. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102223/article/browns-new-gm-cuts-cb-tj-carrie-three-others https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/browns-first-cuts-what-they-mean-who-they-help-and-whats-next.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28723771/browns-cut-four-players-free-more-13-million-salary-cap BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns terminated the contracts of cornerback T.J. Carrie, tight end Demetrius Harris, guard Eric Kush and linebacker Adarius Taylor on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions. If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go: LT 1. DT 2. OG 3. RB 4. (or later, just need depth) S, LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Icecube said: These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions. If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go: LT 1. DT 2. OG 3. RB 4. (or later, just need depth) S, LB. I don't think we release Hurt or OBJ. We will tag Hunt. If he gets a offer we don't like, we will take the pick. OBJ is at most trade bait. We will listen to offers, but I don't think Stefanski wants him to go. Vernon is the interesting question. We might release him. $15.5 is a lot for a guy who hasn't played much the last 2-3 years. That doesn't mean he won't be able to this year. That is the tough decision of the off-season. We don't have anybody behind him unless you are related the Chad Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Icecube said: ...then in the draft go: LT 1. DT 2. OG 3. RB 4. (or later, just need depth) S, LB. Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft. I think it more a poster ranking needs as they see them. No doubt you have to see who is available. If Simmons is there when we pick, it would be hard to pass on him to take the 3rd or 4th best LT. That is why scouting and the FO have to have 2nd tier and 3rd tier guys laid out on the horizontal draft board. One also has to consider what happened in free agency. That is where you address needs. At least to me, the 2nd round pick is where you might lean on your horizontal board a bit more, but even then, if you have to drop more than 2-3-4 slots on the vertical board, you are probably making a mistake. The only real exceptions are early if you need a QB and late if you need a kicker of some sort or a long snapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 18 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft. It was assumptive tha BPA would be factored in. Jebus Christmas on a popsicle stick. Some live to whine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Scripting like this without knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft. 18 minutes ago, Icecube said: It was assumptive tha BPA would be factored in. Jebus Christmas on a popsicle stick. Some live to whine. Shall we take a poll as to which of the above sound like whining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Shall we take a poll as to which of the above sound like whining? Oh NO! Not a poll!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 I accept your surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 21 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I accept your surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 This is from a MKC source... carry a big stick... https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/lb-joe-schobert-will-hit-the-free-agent-market-and-will-not-be-back-with-the-browns-source-says.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Belongs here too- Kirksey released. Not much of a surprise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 Anyone heard anymore news on whether Vernon is sticking around or we cutting him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 Who knows? I just hope that this isn't one of those typical situations where the new GM wants to shit can everybody that the old GM brought in. I don't think Kush was Ryan Tucker but I thought he was at least a useful piece of the puzzle. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 John Dorkey knew he made a mistake signing Kush, so Wyat Teller was signed to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 10 hours ago, 7moses7 said: John Dorkey knew he made a mistake signing Kush, so he traded for Wyat Teller was signed to replace him. FIFY... Quote On August 29, 2019, Teller and a 2021 seventh-round pick was traded to the Cleveland Browns for 2020 fifth and sixth-round picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Morgan Burnett who? safety released, along with Hunt getting tagged.... Kirksey signs with Green Bay, two years $16 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hunt was tendered.... along with three others... Quote Tendered RB Kareem Hunt, TE Pharaoh Brown, RB Dontrell Hilliard and WR KhaDarel Hodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 2nd Fullback added... https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/17/browns-trade-future-draft-pick-for-broncos-fb-andy-janovich/ cost? a 2021 7th rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, hoorta said: Morgan Burnett who? safety released, along with Hunt getting tagged.... Kirksey signs with Green Bay, two years $16 million. Happy trails to Kirksey 2/$16M to go to the Packers. Not too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 We now have a Mike LB on the roster... https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/03/browns-agree-to-terms-with-packers-lb-bj-goodson.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Use same Link above now updated* .. Browns sign former #14 pick Raider S Karl Joseph to a 1 year deal...177 snaps in box//53 snaps in slot///315 snaps at FS.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Report: CB Donovan Olumba to Sign With Browns https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Report-CB-Donovan-Olumba-to-Sign-With-Browns-145254171/ ByJared Mueller 55 minutes ago The Cleveland Browns have added a lot of players to their roster so far in free agency and, according to a report from his agent, the team has added cornerback Donovan Olumba: Olumba is an interesting add for the Browns. At 6'2" and just over 200 pounds, he is an outside cornerback primarily and fits the mold of corners that the Seattle Seahawks have used for a long time. That system is one Browns defensive coordinator Joe Woods has an affinity for. Woods spent the last few seasons with Richard Sherman who came to prominence in that system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/03/trent-williams-still-an-option-for-the-browns-odell-beckham-not-on-the-block-anthony-harris-not-in-the-cards-more.html 1. Redskins left tackle Trent Williams is still a possibility for the Browns The Browns explored trading for Williams after the Redskins gave him permission to seek a deal two weeks ago. He is still a possibility if the Redskins lower their asking price and/or if Williams is willing to accept less in an extension. If the Browns surrender a higher pick, they’d likely want a longer-term deal, which would effectively take them out of the strong left tackle market in the draft. There are other things to consider with Williams, including the fact that he’ll be 32 on July 19. But his former Redskins offensive line coach Bill Callahan is now with the Browns in that capacity, and thinks highly of Williams. A seven-time Pro Bowler, Williams would give the Browns a player the caliber of Joe Thomas, and Baker Mayfield’s blind side would be set for years to come. Williams is currently under contract for $10.85 million in 2020 and $12.5 million in 2021, and his market value, according to spotrac.com, is three years, $45.77 million, or about $15.25 million a year. I’m also told that the cancerous growth removed from his head is not a concern. 2. Odell Beckham Jr. not on the trading block Former Jets and Ravens linebacker Bart Scott grabbed a few headlines last week when he proclaimed on his ESPN radio show “Bart and Hahn” that Odell Beckham Jr. is on the trading block. But it’s currently not the case and hasn’t been. “Just know you heard it here first,” Scott said. “I’m telling you right now, Odell Beckham is on the trading block and it’s real right now.” Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski made it clear at the NFL combine that Beckham is a key part of their future, and owner Jimmy Haslam stated that he anticipates that Beckham will be a “big, big producer” for the Browns in 2020. Berry did say he’d listen to offers for Beckham, but he’s not actively trying to trade him. 3. Anthony Harris not in the cards right now The Browns explored a trade last week for Vikings franchised safety Anthony Harris, but he’s not in the cards at this point. The Browns made that clear when they signed safeties Karl Joseph and Andrew Sendejo to one-year deals last week. In addition to a source telling cleveland.com that the Vikings would want at least a third-round pick for Harris and probably a second, he’d also likely want double-digit millions on an extension. Both things are too rich for the Browns right now. With Harris tagged, there’s also no sense of urgency to force the issue right now. They could always revisit it down the road depending on what they do in the draft. 4. Olivier Vernon and Chris Hubbard still kicking The first week of free agency came and went with Vernon still on the roster at $15.5 million for 2020 and right tackle Chris Hubbard still on the books for $6.15 million for this season despite the fact he lost his starting job to Jack Conklin. Vernon’s salary is the highest on the team, but if he can stay healthy in 2020, he provides a good complement to Myles Garrett, and the Browns would probably rather pay him that than give potentially more to free agent Jadeveon Clowney, who originally wanted $20 million a year despite notching only 3.0 sacks in 2019. As for Hubbard, he has a good chance to stick around as the Browns’ swing tackle and can fill in at guard if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 And thus ends Bart Scott's latest 15-minutes... Hubbard looks like fairly expensive OT depth until you consider that 1/3rd of his 2020 price tag is dead money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: And thus ends Bart Scott's latest 15-minutes... Hubbard looks like fairly expensive OT depth until you consider that 1/3rd of his 2020 price tag is dead money. What happened with Bart Scott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, The Gipper said: What happened with Bart Scott? On 3/19/2020 at 10:19 PM, The Gipper said: BS.....Bart Scott. I get it. And I agree. ... or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Browns bring back TE Pharaoh Brown as exclusive rights free agent https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/20/browns-bring-back-te-pharaoh-brown-as-exclusive-rights-free-agent/ It was more of a paperwork formality than any great question, but the Cleveland Browns have officially brought back tight end Pharaoh Brown for the 2020 NFL season. Brown signed his exclusive rights free agent offer extended by the team. As an ERFA, Brown could not negotiate with other teams unless the Browns refused to give him a qualifying offer to remain in Cleveland. The Browns did that, and now the tight end is locked up for another season. Brown, who turns 26 in May, caught two passes for 27 yards in 2019. He was acquired off the Raiders practice squad in 2018 but never made it to the Browns active roster until last fall. He is a Cleveland native. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 ... and there was great rejoicing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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