Orion Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well...two candidates became available today (Saturday). leaving Saleh and Bieniemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The Gipper said: Whatever this was supposed to be wasn't working. Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page: https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, MDDawg said: Saleh's grown on me, looks like a leader of men and I read he's very detail oriented and easily adapts to technology. I expect he wouldn't oppose analytics which maybe another reason why he's a finalist. Defensive coach but some defensive coaches have spearheaded some of the greatest offensive teams like Tony Dungy in Indy and Rivera had fairly good offenses when in Carolina. Edit: Hawkins on the ThomaHawk podcast also stated he's not an egomaniac/a**hole which also fits into Jimmy's alignment philosophy. Seems a defensive minded coach just sent those Ratbirds into hibernation... FWIW, I can't remember the last time I've been so happy that another team lost.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Orion said: Well...two candidates became available today (Saturday). leaving Saleh and Bieniemy. Roman and Stefansky....aufed. The fact that there has been no announcement about McDaniels being hired tells me it is still very much up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Orion said: Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page: https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills But that is just what we want.....some fire between a coach and his player. It seems to me that the Brady/McDaniel combo has worked pretty darn good over the years....and a little debate between them certainly is not indicative of an inability to "handle" a big ego. They handled each others egos together to the tune of Yay many Super Bowl rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: Dobbs had loads to do with the scouting getting the Colts OL right.. Yup... including a certain UFA OT that would help us considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, The Gipper said: But that is just what we want.....some fire I'm all for hiring Brady as HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 14 hours ago, tiamat63 said: I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team. Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story. He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation. NOT an ideal combination. And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical. Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category. Tia, I like some of the points you've made. That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house. You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that. That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years. While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators. I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent. However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past). He was their X-factor. In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record? Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh? You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Flugel said: That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house OMG. LOL. Now I can go make some cowboy coffee.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll.... I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll.... I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach. This dude is going to have to get a restraining order against cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 7moses7 said: Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side. Yeah, I agree. If it was going to be McDaniels, IMO, it would have happened by now. (Which means it'll probably come out he's been hired the second I hit SUBMIT REPLY on this thought) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 7moses7 said: Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side. The more I see & read, the more solidly I'm on the Saleh train. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 7moses7 said: Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side. I'm starting to like the idea of this guy more every day. While the success at DC is very good - the observation of this guy on the sideline shows me a defense that plays very hard for this guy with a lot of trust behind doing so. I think we have some really good candidates, which would be fine if the people doing the hiring had the 1st clue what they're looking for and why. I think we're about due for some hiring criteria considering we've hired 7 different HCs since 2012.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Saleh has very good defensive players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nero said: Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Nero said: I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? ooh... good question. On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background ...no wonder his defense terrorizes opposing offenses. I wouldn't mind a HC from the defensive side of the ball. At least you know that there will be an OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dutch Oven said: ooh... good question. On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career. 6 kids may also make you work your butt off at any given job just to stay away from home as much as possible and 'provide'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, 7moses7 said: Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . Since he's the only one whose team is still playing, then the longer no announcement is made the more traction your guess will gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll.... I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach. He won't be hired, he pronounces his name like he is French: Ree-shard. He don't look French. He probably pronounces the game "futbol" and calls it "footie". Besides, his name seems to close to Keith Richards. And, I mean, come on. Keith Richards as your football coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Ibleedbrown said: Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy. Fuck me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. So? with 6 kids does that mean he is Catholic and not Muslim? Or are those 6 kids with his 3-4 wives? (Too far?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Nero said: Fuck me. I'm completely apathetic to this. At least it isn't Daboll, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I'm completely apathetic to this. At least it isn't Daboll, I guess. There ya go... Buck up, big guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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