Westside Steve Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 https://abcnews.go.com/US/teacher-charged-video-shows-lifting-teen-carrying-classroom/story?id=68178407 I wouldn't imagine anyone else does? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 They shouldn't allow cell phones in classrooms, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 So many things wrong here. I can understand the teacher's frustration. Probably has dealt with that kids insubordination many, many times. However, I am not sure that handling the kid the way he did was appropriate. What if after shoving him by the door the kid tripped and hit his head or was hurt? The question I have is this... why does this kid feel that playing music at a disrupting volume is okay? Why is he allowed to have a cell phone out during actual class time? One then wonders what this kids home life is like? Parental involvement? Dad did say that his son was wrong but still wants to press charges. Why not sit down with the teacher and his son and possibly use some emotional intelligence to talk about the events and come to a reasonable solution. The teacher will be dismissed and will probably have a hard time finding another job teaching What type of escalation protocols does the school have for when kids are being disruptive? This is just growing problem in many school systems. Parents don't give a shit, kids don't give a shit, and teachers are growing more and more frustrated to the point that they respond like they do. And then the article reads that the teacher didn't act in accordance with their expectations. How about level setting behaviors with parents and students too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I really didn't see an alternative to taking the kid out of the class. It doesn't look like he was beaten or abused. Personally I'm probably a little bit of an asshole and I wouldn't have minded that but I do realize that would have been the wrong course of action. He was lifted up safely as police are trained at least to remove people at a sit-in. The other choice was just to let the little son-of-a-bitch sit there and crank up the hip-hop Tunes and give up the entire class. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I would not want to be a teacher today. I can't believe this teacher was criminally charged. The teacher did not strike the disobedient student only forcefully removed him from the classroom so he could no longer disrupt the class. The parents should have some concern about the actions and disobedience of their own child but instead they will likely file a lawsuit against the teacher and the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I really didn't see an alternative to taking the kid out of the class. It doesn't look like he was beaten or abused. Personally I'm probably a little bit of an asshole and I wouldn't have minded that but I do realize that would have been the wrong course of action. He was lifted up safely as police are trained at least to remove people at a sit-in. The other choice was just to let the little son-of-a-bitch sit there and crank up the hip-hop Tunes and give up the entire class. WSS What some of these kids call hip hop today is truly what offends me the most. Dear God is 95% of it just..... fucking awful. edit: I have several teachers in my family. Can confirm, not an easy job. Especially dealing with some of these little shits today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, tiamat63 said: What some of these kids call hip hop today is truly what offends me the most. Dear God is 95% of it just..... fucking awful. edit: I have several teachers in my family. Can confirm, not an easy job. Especially dealing with some of these little shits today. The future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, htownbrown said: The future? I can only hope. I love LD's word play, the fact his stuff isn't overly serious, rather hilarious and actually some-what self aware of how selfish and material most mainstream hip hop has become now. Dude isn't overly vulgar either and he takes shots at just about everyone. The opposite of PC minus being crude for crudeness sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Westside Steve said: https://abcnews.go.com/US/teacher-charged-video-shows-lifting-teen-carrying-classroom/story?id=68178407 I wouldn't imagine anyone else does? WSS It's the way of the future just look at what California is doing...I agree with you the teacher has to be able to keep control of the classroom or no one will learn anything. New California Law Bans ‘Willful Defiance’ Suspensions in Grades K-8 https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/new-california-law-bans-willful-compliance-suspensions-in-grades-k-8/1964981/ Senate Bill 419 will make it illegal for public and charter schools to suspend students for "willful defiance." According to the San Diego Unified School District, willful defiance is defined as “disrupting school activities or otherwise refusing to follow the valid authority of school personnel.” For example, if a student refuses a teacher’s request to take off his or her hat or hoodie in the classroom, that would fall under willful defiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, tiamat63 said: What some of these kids call hip hop today is truly what offends me the most. Dear God is 95% of it just..... fucking awful. edit: I have several teachers in my family. Can confirm, not an easy job. Especially dealing with some of these little shits today. Well it wasn't really meant to be a commentary on hip hop. It doesn't matter if the kid was cracking up Sergeant Pepper Cole Porter or Beethoven you just can't pull that shit in class and expect to have your ass kissed. But many of us especially musicians foolishly think that we can reproduce it. There is a skill involved whether or not I despise it. But that's completely off subject. 😏 WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Westside Steve said: Well it wasn't really meant to be a commentary on hip hop. It doesn't matter if the kid was cracking up Sergeant Pepper Cole Porter or Beethoven you just can't pull that shit in class and expect to have your ass kissed. But many of us especially musicians foolishly think that we can reproduce it. There is a skill involved whether or not I despise it. But that's completely off subject. 😏 WSS Just making a tongue in cheek observation is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 The inmates truly do now run the asylum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 these "news" agencies werent in my catholic school kindergarten class when sister mary magdeline wreaked havoc on us... if those walls could talk like a cell phone camera my oh my... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 My Wife, retired teacher, just mentioned after I read the OP to her - that all the good kids will leave, and go to private schools, Christian schools will boom, teachers will bail and leave california, And empowering radical, defiant students probably gives the democratic/left a stronger voting base as time goes on. "See? we let you do anything you want. Stick with us when you start voting!" That's what I think it is basically all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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