hoorta Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, The Gipper said: Need new ownership. Know anyone with a few billion spare dollars to buy Jimmy out? In a lot of respects he's like Freddie- means well, but totally incompetent at his designated job (owner). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Dutch Oven said: I know a lot of people assume this means McDaniels is coming, but I think it could very well mean it is McCarthy. It seemed odd that Dorsey, with his connection to McCarthy, never bothered to even interview him last year. Now he's been pushed out, seemingly putting the analytics guys back in charge. Guess who is now embracing analytics? Mike McCarthy. I honestly do not think it portends anything.....except more impatience by this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, hoorta said: Absolutley Gipper.... Yup the analytics guys wanted Stefanski for HC in 2019, John got his way with Kitchens, and swirled down the kitchen sink with him.... stefanski is a shit oc Does anyone really think he would have done a good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, hoorta said: Know anyone with a few billion spare dollars to buy Jimmy out? In a lot of respects he's like Freddie- means well, but totally incompetent at his designated job (owner). Warren Buffett bought out Jimmy's interest in Pilot/Flying J. Why not this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ATOM said: stefanski is a shit oc Does anyone really think he would have done a good job Seemed almost like the Vikings brought in Kubiak to hold his hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, ATOM said: stefanski is a shit oc Does anyone really think he would have done a good job Not only that when the analytics guys were running the draft, by comparison Dorsey was a freaking genius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Dutch Oven said: Seemed almost like the Vikings brought in Kubiak to hold his hand. You'll notice the Vikings offense wasn't really turned around until Kubiak showed up. That man has had a great influence on making the running game a priority there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 as much as the Giants have sucked the mora family held on to there gm even after the shurmer hire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, hoorta said: Not only that when the analytics guys were running the draft, by comparison Dorsey was a freaking genius. I keep trying to tell myself to just let this shake out before commenting too much (since we really don't know how this will all end up) but man, I've seen this movie before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Happy 2020 everyone...... nothing dull around the Browns camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: Goodbye ass clown. People thought I was crazy when I said he had to go, but nope. I'm telling you, being an NFL GM is the biggest racket on earth. Yeah you got your wish, be prepard for a step back. Who wants to come here to be GM or coach when you get the axe after a year or two. This team is probably a good HC away from being a playoff team. But now you bring in a new GM who wants his guys. They always want THEIR guys. Players brought in by Dorsey. Landry Ward OBJ Randall Greedy Chubb Wilson Baker Vernon Hunt Richardson Thats a pretty good group of folks in just 2 years. No GM since the Browns cames back in '99 has brought in as much talent. Yes, the Austin Corbett pick was a bust, so what. You bring in the talent above you get to have a mulligan every once in a while. And guess what else this means, we might lose Wolf and Highsmith who are pretty good guys in their own right. This move reeks of stupidity and incompetence. I have no problem canning a GM, I was for Sashi, Farmer and others getting shown the door because they were incompetent at their job. Dorsey is not incompetent. The Haslams want instant gratification and results or they blow crap up. That can't be they way you run your organization. If the Haslams really believe the team is close, then change the HC and keep everything else in place. Best option here is just sell the team to someone who can better run things, I don't doubt the Haslams desires to win, I doubt their mental competence to do so. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: Goodbye ass clown. People thought I was crazy when I said he had to go, but nope. I'm telling you, being an NFL GM is the biggest racket on earth. we finally had a football guy who came in and said there are no real ball players on are team(was he right ? damn right he was)put's together a roster that can win and what does he get for it,fuck the haslems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: Rhule, from Baylor you dumb fuck....he turned down the interview...listen to your peers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, runyon27 said: Yeah you got your wish, be prepard for a step back. Who wants to come here to be GM or coach when you get the axe after a year or two. This team is probably a good HC away from being a playoff team. But now you bring in a new GM who wants his guys. They always want THEIR guys. Players brought in by Dorsey. Landry Ward OBJ Randall Greedy Chubb Wilson Baker Vernon Hunt Richardson Thats a pretty good group of folks in just 2 years. No GM since the Browns cames back in '99 has brought in as much talent. Yes, the Austin Corbett pick was a bust, so what. You bring in the talent above you get to have a mulligan every once in a while. And guess what else this means, we might lose Wolf and Highsmith who are pretty good guys in their own right. This move reeks of stupidity and incompetence. I have no problem canning a GM, I was for Sashi, Farmer and others getting shown the door because they were incompetent at their job. Dorsey is not incompetent. The Haslams want instant gratification and results or they blow crap up. That can't be they way you run your organization. If the Haslams really believe the team is close, then change the HC and keep everything else in place. Best option here is just sell the team to someone who can better run things, I don't doubt the Haslams desires to win, I doubt their mental competence to do so. I think we'll be just fine. Dorsey didn't want to take a reduced role, but he didn't earn total trust either. Something was just WRONG this year, and both Kitchens and Dorsey shared in that reality. We're going to be alright. Just a guess, and lord knows I've been wrong plenty, but I am excited about the new changes and what we'll bring into town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ATOM said: we finally had a football guy who came in and said there are no real ball players on are team(was he right ? damn right he was)put's together a roster that can win and what does he get for it,fuck the haslems What did they win ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Dorsey gone more than likely means McDaniels. Which will pretty much be more of the same, except the HC will be a belligerent asshole who constantly act like he is the only smart person in the room. At this point, McCarthy would be a home-run hired when compared to that fucking clown. Nah man, you don’t get it. You see it’s been McDaniels this WHOLE time has made the GOAT quarterback look good. Tommy obviously would have been just another scrub without Josh propping him up. Of course, completely agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crstphr2 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: What did they win ??? 4-44 in three years prior 13 wins last two years. baby steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, 7moses7 said: What did they win ??? you need to have a foundation of some kind and they did with Dorsey now were going back to what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, ATOM said: as much as the Giants have sucked the mora family held on to there gm even after the shurmer hire It is MARA, not Mora. The Mora's are different. They are amazed by the concept of the NFL playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 When the Browns melt down they don't screw around, they go full Chernobyl. Un. Freaking. Believable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, ATOM said: we finally had a football guy who came in and said there are no real ball players on are team(was he right ? damn right he was)put's together a roster that can win and what does he get for it,fuck the haslems hey atomj ant....what do you think about dorsey now....he was a fuck up....i guarantee you most of those picks you say are stellar won't even be on this team much longer....including your obj.....obj blows....mayfield is an asshole who thinks he is a training room doctor....dorsey fucked the goose by hiring fatass kitchens...that little atom ant brain neutralized all his picks.....puts together a roster that can win...you idiot, they were 6-10....kitchens is part of the roster dumbass....along with the other losers.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: Nah man, you don’t get it. You see it’s been McDaniels this WHOLE time has made the GOAT quarterback look good. Tommy obviously would have been just another scrub without Josh propping him up. Of course, completely agree with you. maybe he can trade Mayfield and bring Tebow back with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, ATOM said: you need to have a foundation of some kind and they did with Dorsey now were going back to what ? What did Gholie call Dorsey, another Coffee Fetcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 So DePodesta, the guy we know as the guy no one listens to when it comes to major hiring decisions, is now the guy we are listening to when it comes to major hiring decisions? It’s like the jokes write themselves. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, browns52 said: hey atomj ant....what do you think about dorsey now....he was a fuck up....i guarantee you most of those picks you say are stellar won't even be on this team much longer....including your obj.....obj blows....mayfield is an asshole who thinks he is a training room doctor....dorsey fucked the goose by hiring fatass kitchens...that little atom ant brain neutralized all his picks.....puts together a roster that can win...you idiot, they were 6-10....kitchens is part of the roster dumbass....along with the other losers.... what do i think ? I think Dorsey was are best GM since are return so tell me besides Miles how many draft picks are still on are team Hell how many are still in the league ? prior to dorsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, browns52 said: you dumb fuck....he turned down the interview...listen to your peers... That's what I said, moron. Goddamn, when you go full Retard, you go full Retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: What did Gholie call Dorsey, another Coffee Fetcher wtf does that have to do with anything are you advocating for ghouly to be are GM ? and btw he called everyone a coffee fetcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, ATOM said: you need to have a foundation of some kind and they did with Dorsey now were going back to what ? Make Cleveland Toxic Again? We've been there for two decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Dutch Oven said: That's what I said, moron. Goddamn, when you go full Retard, you go full Retard. I swear 52 is a 13 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: I think we'll be just fine. Dorsey didn't want to take a reduced role, but he didn't earn total trust either. Something was just WRONG this year, and both Kitchens and Dorsey shared in that reality. We're going to be alright. Just a guess, and lord knows I've been wrong plenty, but I am excited about the new changes and what we'll bring into town. I am not as optimistic as you are, I hope it turns out well but the Browns tracked record cannot be trusted, speaking of earning trust. Lets not forget we traded Kizer and Randall, a nobody for a starter. We traded Kessler for a draft pick, a bigger nobody for something. Traded for Jarvis Landry for a 4th and a 7th, seems like a bargain. This from a guy called a clown. Seems to me he was clowing other folks. Also let not forget getting a 3rd round pick for Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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