7moses7 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, tinythinker said: Jackson gets another first down with his feet So who do we play next week? Doesn’t matter who we play next, it’s a loss !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, D Bone said: OBJ having a party on the sidelines during a loss...... he got his TD, so he's all good Odell can go to hell!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 There's the final nail with an 18 yard run by Hill 31-15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Wrong!!!!!! This game was over at halftime 🤮🤮🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: Odell can go to hell!!!!!! OBJ is rightly calling out shitty coaching decisions that have repeatedly cost this team a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Freddie has three minutes left to embarrass himself.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 At this point do we need to go 3-5 next season and fire Freddie. just take care of it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: Freddie not taking the extra point there should be shown on repeat if he gets canned. The talent on this team is so evident, but coaching just brings it down. no excuse. edit: OBJ knows it too. First obj was not talking about going for two or kicking it lol. Don't just listen to Romo and nantz. If you think about it going for two there makes sense. You need a two point conversion regardless. If you don't get it on either attempt it means you need an extra possession. When would you rather have that information? With 8 minutes left so you can press a little bit more and go no huddle to make sure your have plenty of time for that 3rd possession or after the hypothetical second td where you weren't in a big rush because you don't want the opposing team to have much time let's say less than 2 minutes. You are not more likely to get it on the 2nd hypothetical td than the first. Literally it's the same odds either way. The only difference is one way (going for it after 1st) you get info sooner and the sooner you know what you need there better off you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Baker Mayfield 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: OBJ is rightly calling out shitty coaching decisions that have repeatedly cost this team a season. You want to bitch about Freddie bitch about 3rd and 1 halfback pass. Or a pass on 3rd and 10 with a minute left in half and no timeout for ravens which falls incomplete and stops the clock, giving them enough time to score another td. When running it gives them the ball back with 20 seconds and no timeout likely leading to 7-6 game at half. Going for two down 9 is not some egregiously bad call. Like I said the sooner you know how many possessions you need the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: First obj was not talking about going for two or kicking it lol. Don't just listen to Romo and nantz. Think for yourself. You need a two point conversion regardless. If you don't get it on either attempt it means you need an extra possession. When would you rather have that information? With 8 minutes left so you can press a little bit more and go no huddle to make sure your have plenty of time for that 3rfd possession or after the hypothetical second td where you weren't in a big rush because you don't want the opposing team to have much time let's say less than 2 minutes. You are not more likely to get it on the 2nd hypothetical td than the first. Literally it's the same odds either way. The only difference is one way (going for it after 1st) you get info sooner and the sooner you know what you need there better off you are. And we knew sooner because our tight end can't catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, bjh2130 said: You want to bitch about Freddie bitch about 3rd and 1 halfback pass. Or a pass on 3rd and 10 with a minute left in half and no timeout for ravens which falls incomplete and stops the clock, giving them enough time to score another td. When running it gives them the ball back with 20 seconds and no timeout likely leading to 7-6 game at half. Going for two down 9 is not some egregiously bad call. Like I said the sooner you know how many possessions you need the better. Yes, it is. I don’t disagree but not going for two is a decision a high school coach wouldn’t have chewed on. i guarantee if you polled 100 coaches 99 say kick the extra point. The only one who wouldn’t coaches this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns50 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Mayfield is not the same quarterback 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Thanks Freddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, TypicalBrowns50 said: Mayfield is not the same quarterback Needs a new QB coach. He has some really good qualities but He’s regressed. Mainly his movement in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: Doesn’t matter who we play next, it’s a loss !!!!! any body going to the bengals game next week....phhhhhweeeeee.....heh heh heh.....what a clusterfuck of a team.....you can watch mixon rush for around 200 yds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Vambo said: Thanks Freddie and a wonderful season it was.......wooooooooo....lineup for your season tickets for next season...slimeball haslem say he only going to raise the price by 15 percent....heheheheheeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, TypicalBrowns50 said: Mayfield is not the same quarterback hell no...he be back doin progressive commercials for next season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: Yes, it is. I don’t disagree but not going for two is a decision a high school coach wouldn’t have chewed on. i guarantee if you polled 100 coaches 99 say kick the extra point. The only one who wouldn’t coaches this team. If you don't get it on either attempt it means you need an extra possession. When would you rather have that information? With 8 minutes left so you can press a little bit more and go no huddle to make sure your have plenty of time for that 3rfd possession or after the hypothetical second td where you weren't in a big rush because you don't want the opposing team to have much time let's say less than 2 minutes. You are not more likely to get it on the 2nd hypothetical td than the first. Literally it's the same odds either way. The only difference is one way (going for it after 1st) you get info sooner and the sooner you know what you need there better off you are. When would you rather know how many possessions you need? It doesn't increase your odds to go for it on the 2nd one. There is literally no real benefit to waiting to go for it on the 2nd one. Here's a little article on it and its not 99 out of 100. A majority do kick the pat but it's not the right call by the numbers and strategically. https://www.footballperspective.com/trailing-by-15-in-the-middle-of-the-4th-quarter-teams-are-foolish-to-not-go-for-2-after-touchdowns/ I particularly like this comparison "In college football, in overtime, each team gets one possession at the opponent’s 25-yard line. It is obvious that playing defense first is advantageous, and every college team elects to play defense first if they win the overtime coin toss. Knowing whether you need 3 or 7 points to win (or tie) is valuable information. We have exactly the same situation going on here, but the desire to keep hope alive prevents coaches from acting rationally." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: First obj was not talking about going for two or kicking it lol. Don't just listen to Romo and nantz. Think for yourself. You need a two point conversion regardless. If you don't get it on either attempt it means you need an extra possession. When would you rather have that information? With 8 minutes left so you can press a little bit more and go no huddle to make sure your have plenty of time for that 3rd possession or after the hypothetical second td where you weren't in a big rush because you don't want the opposing team to have much time let's say less than 2 minutes. You are not more likely to get it on the 2nd hypothetical td than the first. Literally it's the same odds either way. The only difference is one way (going for it after 1st) you get info sooner and the sooner you know what you need there better off you are. who gives a shit....our creampuff lb's and dl would have collapsed like they did anyway......fucking pussies...cake eaters....etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TypicalBrowns50 said: The offense sucks dick, i would Boo them also. Freddie sucks did not realize the ravens did not have 9 players against the frowns when we beat them....they are all back now....we probably would have got shmutzed the first game against them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: If you don't get it on either attempt it means you need an extra possession. When would you rather have that information? With 8 minutes left so you can press a little bit more and go no huddle to make sure your have plenty of time for that 3rfd possession or after the hypothetical second td where you weren't in a big rush because you don't want the opposing team to have much time let's say less than 2 minutes. You are not more likely to get it on the 2nd hypothetical td than the first. Literally it's the same odds either way. The only difference is one way (going for it after 1st) you get info sooner and the sooner you know what you need there better off you are. When would you rather know how many possessions you need? It doesn't increase your odds to go for it on the 2nd one. There is literally no real benefit to waiting to go for it on the 2nd one. The reason is extremely simple. Football is the biggest momentum sport in the world, nothing even comes close. When you kick the extra point, it’s a one score game with 7 minutes left. the defense comes out with a pep. The crowd gets into it. An offense, even as good as Baltimore, has that thought in the back of their mind every time they call a play. It’s as simple of a coaching decision there is to make really. I’m not trying to sound harsh to you but again, no competent coach ever takes the early 2 pt attempt. Like ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: Wrong!!!!!! This game was over at halftime 🤮🤮🤮 half time...it was over before it started.....this garbage pit.....fucking pour some gas on it and light the match... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, browns52 said: yeah.......he's going to be adjusted out of cleveland.....how bout dat....probably with a bunch of other coaches......another rebuild on da way folks... hopefully Dorsey has been doing some back channel checks on a new coach so he can make a decision before the haslems have time to meddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jrb12711 said: The reason is extremely simple. Football is the biggest momentum sport in the world, nothing even comes close. When you kick the extra point, it’s a one score game with 7 minutes left. the defense comes out with a pep. The crowd gets into it. An offense, even as good as Baltimore, has that thought in the back of their mind every time they call a play. It’s as simple of a coaching decision there is to make really. I’m not trying to sound harsh to you but again, no competent coach ever takes the early 2 pt attempt. Like ever. I edited my post while you were responding I apologize. Steve spurrier is a pretty competent coach. Here's a little article on it and its not 99 out of 100. A majority do kick the pat but it's not the right call by the numbers and strategically. https://www.footballperspective.com/trailing-by-15-in-the-middle-of-the-4th-quarter-teams-are-foolish-to-not-go-for-2-after-touchdowns/ I particularly like this comparison "In college football, in overtime, each team gets one possession at the opponent’s 25-yard line. It is obvious that playing defense first is advantageous, and every college team elects to play defense first if they win the overtime coin toss. Knowing whether you need 3 or 7 points to win (or tie) is valuable information. We have exactly the same situation going on here, but the desire to keep hope alive prevents coaches from acting rationally." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Cleveland Clowns 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩🤮💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: The reason is extremely simple. Football is the biggest momentum sport in the world, nothing even comes close. When you kick the extra point, it’s a one score game with 7 minutes left. the defense comes out with a pep. The crowd gets into it. An offense, even as good as Baltimore, has that thought in the back of their mind every time they call a play. It’s as simple of a coaching decision there is to make really. I’m not trying to sound harsh to you but again, no competent coach ever takes the early 2 pt attempt. Like ever. Also you're acting as if the two point automatically fails because they tried it on the first td. You still get all those advantages and more if two point is successful. Let's not forget pats arent automatic now either. It's the reason we were down 15 in the first place. Seibert is right around 90% on pats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDawg Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: Wrong!!!!!! This game was over at halftime 🤮🤮🤮 Exactly, everything wrong about Freddie was highlighted in the last 3 minutes of the first half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: Also you're acting as if the two point automatically fails because they tried it on the first td. You still get all those advantages and more if two point is successful. Let's not forget pats arent automatic now either. Comparing situations in college football and the nfl is apples to oranges. Steve spurrier is honestly IMO one of the most overrated coaches in college football history too, if I’m being honest. Also, the man hasn’t coached in 20 or more years. look, I’m not going to change your mind but there’s a reason obj and several other players were barking at Freddie. I’d bet my literal house though what I’m saying would be the sentiment of the overwhelming majority of nfl head coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDawg Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, ATOM said: hopefully Dorsey has been doing some back channel checks on a new coach so he can make a decision before the haslems have time to meddle GMs are rarely given a second chance to hire a coach when the first hire was a failure and in this case a resounding failure. Jimmy's going to go with DePodesta's recommendation this time so let's see how Dorsey reacts to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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